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banned 1 Like #1
I think you are in a minority there.

The play.com / hmv deals are usually the same old crap over and over, so its good to only list them together.

The stand out hot deals will generally get posted seperately, which is a good middle ground.
#2
vibeone
I think you are in a minority there.

The play.com / hmv deals are usually the same old crap over and over, so its good to only list them together.

The stand out hot deals will generally get posted seperately, which is a good middle ground.


That maybe true, but everyone is different and can make their own decision which is good and rubbish. That's why details, pictures and even video trailers would be more helpful to people rather than a meaningless endless list of DVD titles.
#3
Easy solution, don't open a thread with a long list of dvds in it. sorted............ next?
#4
Then you would get thousands of posts a month filled with a huge amount of pics and vids....which would most likely be repeated over and over. Surely if there is a long boring list something might intrigue you and lead you to do research about the film in other places. ie YouTube, IMDB etc.

I'm with vibeone on this one.
#5
I prefer the collated lists at the minute...there's just too many DVD's getting put up for £2.99 every day of the week.

As for extra info - I generally know from the name of a film whether I'd buy it anyway (as I'll have heard of it before) so the extra info (for me) just ain't worth the effort of the poster.

If I can't remember the info of a film I'll happily hop over to imdb to get the info I need for a bigger picture (and some reviews).
banned#6
long lists are the way to go. far too many single threads for £2.99 cd/dvds

imdb tells you all you need to know about a film
banned#7
tuckeral;4990138
I prefer the collated lists at the minute...there's just too many DVD's getting put up for £2.99 every day of the week.

As for extra info - I generally know from the name of a film whether I'd buy it anyway (as I'll have heard of it before) so the extra info (for me) just ain't worth the effort of the poster.

If I can't remember the info of a film I'll happily hop over to imdb to get the info I need for a bigger picture (and some reviews).

+1 :thumbsup:
#8
Issue One
Then you would get thousands of posts a month filled with a huge amount of pics and vids....which would most likely be repeated over and over. Surely if there is a long boring list something might intrigue you and lead you to do research about the film in other places. ie YouTube, IMDB etc.

I'm with vibeone on this one.


When you look at it, there is more value in just directing people to the actual sales themselves where a person can see for himself on the retailers website without needing to refer to a meaningless list.

Also, I can see value in singular posts that tell you something about a particular film and provide a picture of the DVD cover.
#9
tuckeral;4990138
I prefer the collated lists at the minute...there's just too many DVD's getting put up for £2.99 every day of the week.

As for extra info - I generally know from the name of a film whether I'd buy it anyway (as I'll have heard of it before) so the extra info (for me) just ain't worth the effort of the poster.

If I can't remember the info of a film I'll happily hop over to imdb to get the info I need for a bigger picture (and some reviews).


Agreed :thumbsup:


And to quote duckmagicuk2

duckmagicuk2;4986134
If people are voting them hot then presumably it's what people want...


and the long lists are getting voted hot :-D
banned#10
steveilevi;4990273
When you look at it, there is more value in just directing people to the actual sales themselves where a person can see for himself on the retailers website without needing to refer to a meaningless list.

Also, I can see value in singular posts that tell you something about a particular film and provide a picture of the DVD cover.

Looks like you're on your own here.
#11
I didn't bother too much about this as I used the discussed tab rather than the hot one and all the £2.99 garbage dvd's from play and hmv dropped away pretty sharpish but now they are starting to linger around and I can see everyones point.

Just keep them in one big thread and just to make sure certain people don't start reposting individual dvds and cds as seperate deals then stick the best deals in the title and that will put a halt to them being posted.
#12
csiman
Looks like you're on your own here.


ants97
I didn't bother too much about this as I used the discussed tab rather than the hot one and all the £2.99 garbage dvd's from play and hmv dropped away pretty sharpish but now they are starting to linger around and I can see everyones point.

Just keep them in one big thread and just to make sure certain people don't start reposting individual dvds and cds as seperate deals then stick the best deals in the title and that will put a halt to them being posted.


Then Hotukdeals might as well drop all single posts and insist upon boring long lists with no detail or colour that would would make for a very drab website indeed. Is that what you want?
banned#13
ants97
I didn't bother too much about this as I used the discussed tab rather than the hot one and all the £2.99 garbage dvd's from play and hmv dropped away pretty sharpish but now they are starting to linger around and I can see everyones point.

Just keep them in one big thread and just to make sure certain people don't start reposting individual dvds and cds as seperate deals then stick the best deals in the title and that will put a halt to them being posted.


I agree - but the OP is asking for the opposite!
banned#14
steveilevi
Then Hotukdeals might as well drop all single posts and insist upon boring long lists with no detail or colour that would would make for a very drab website indeed. Is that what you want?


for DVDs deals especially, that is exactly what I, and many others, want.
#15
vibeone
for DVDs deals especially, that is exactly what I, and many others, want.


Yes, but where's the variety? If a poster could contain all in one thread the list of the DVD's with the details of each and every DVD along with the front cover picture I would be happy with that. That would be very time consuming and not practical. Hence, that's why we have to have the singular posts.
#16
steveilevi
Then Hotukdeals might as well drop all single posts and insist upon boring long lists with no detail or colour that would would make for a very drab website indeed. Is that what you want?


having a long list with a few select dvds in the title and posts within the thread highlighting the better deals are a much better way than spamming the site with tonnes of £2.99 dvds that aren't that great a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Also if you want a synopsis of a film along with a trailer, a pic of the cover, the stars, the director then head over to imdb and not a deals website.

vibeone
I agree - but the OP is asking for the opposite!


I know I was disagreeing with his point.
banned#17
vibeone;4990593
for DVDs deals especially, that is exactly what I, and many others, want.

+1 :thumbsup:
banned#18
I can see both points of view, as I am looking for new stuff and blu ray too, I sometimes cant be faffed with going to the site then mincing around looking at which are the 3 for 2 or the like its nice to have it all to hand in one thread.. so a bit of give and take so to speak
1 Like #19
FIRSTLY, CAN WE PLEASE KEEP THIS DISCUSSION CONSTRUCTIVE AND FREE FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS (it's been pretty good so far, keep it up!).

SECONDLY...


ants97
having a long list with a few select dvds in the title and posts within the thread highlighting the better deals are a much better way than spamming the site with tonnes of £2.99 dvds that aren't that great a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Also if you want a synopsis of a film along with a trailer, a pic of the cover, the stars, the director then head over to imdb and not a deals website.


It wouldn't be so bad if people did list "a few select dvds in the title". We get a LOT of lists like this one which I personally think are pretty meaningless. After all, I could just go to the HMV website and "sort by price" for exactly the same thing... :?

I don't mind people making lists like that, but I think that they should at least highlight the titles that they think are brilliantly priced at the top of the thread, or better - in the title.

I'd also argue something else here... I don't buy a lot of DVDs online, but if there's a film I like at a good price then I'll buy it. Realistically, I think that there's a lot of people who do things in this way. Earlier on, I posted this deal for the BTTF Steelbook, over £5 cheaper than the best price elsewhere. Barneydog pointed out that he had posted it as post number 11 in this thread. Realistically, I doubt that it would have been spotted by many people, so I think that it EITHER needs listing on its own or in the title of a thread with a few titles listed... or at a minimum at the top of the OP.

I'm happy for people to post lists rather than separate deals, but I really do hope that more thought is put into them to make the good deals more accessible, visible and obvious.

One final suggestion that I have to possibly acheive this is to break down lists into smaller lists. For example, "£2.99 Horror Films at HMV! (Including: Title x, Title y and Title z)", "£2.99 Comedy Films at HMV! (Including: Title x, Title y and Title z)", etc.

Edit: This list is a fairly good example of what I think works...
banned#20
boring list?, if you didn't click on the post then you wouldn't see it! lol. Better than seeing them posted individually IMO
[helper]#21
This site has been completely wrecked by all these seperate cd/dvd postings. Its so boring now because you have to trawl through it all to find any non cd/dvd deals. I really do think that some posters are on some sort of 'crusade' and its getting worse every day.
banned#22
LJM
This site has been completely wrecked by all these seperate cd/dvd postings. Its so boring now because you have to trawl through it all to find any non cd/dvd deals. I really do think that some posters are on some sort of 'crusade' and its getting worse every day.


They have already admitted they are, saying they are on a points system I can't be bothered to find their post admitting to it. He was probably joking but he said they get extra points for it going hot, points for every degree, points for how many comments in the thread and how many deals they can post in a week. ;-)
#23
lumoruk
They have already admitted they are, saying they are on a points system I can't be bothered to find their post admitting to it. He was probably joking but he said they get extra points for it going hot, points for every degree, points for how many comments in the thread and how many deals they can post in a week. ;-)


Points? No one here is on any "points system", nor gets any personal gain from posting more deals.
banned#24
duckmagicuk2
Points? No one here is on any "points system", nor gets any personal gain from posting more deals.


It was one of the forum helpers duck, they suggested it was a points system between the two of them and he was probably joking (I hope) like I said.
#25
lumoruk
It was one of the forum helpers duck, they suggested it was a points system between the two of them and he was probably joking (I hope) like I said.


He will have been. :)
#26
I think they should just have a separate DVD section all together ...
#27
I can see the point that there are an awful lot of CD & DVD deals but I really can't see that long lists are the ONLY answer in reducing the volume. Some time ago I tried the long list approach when listing sale books from a merchant but to do it properly with links etc is very time consuming and the lists need updating and to be honest it wasn't that successful.

It would be a nightmare with the likes of HMV who continually update their site and who DO change prices dependant of stock levels. I'm not so sure the other big retailers don't do the same as well.

Members will miss some very good deals if DVD & CD deals are restricted to lists as Ducky has implied. I normally order those kind of products through impulse anyway and I reckon an awful lot of members do the same.
That's surely why the single deals normally gain a respectable heat even though there has been a campaign of cold voting against them.

The answer must be (if an answer IS needed) in the ability to filter out DVD & CD's and then peace and harmony should return ??
Either that or just ignore the deals that are no interest to yourself.

Just my opinion. :)
#28
duckmagicuk2
FIRSTLY, CAN WE PLEASE KEEP THIS DISCUSSION CONSTRUCTIVE AND FREE FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS (it's been pretty good so far, keep it up!).

SECONDLY...




It wouldn't be so bad if people did list "a few select dvds in the title". We get a LOT of lists like this one which I personally think are pretty meaningless. After all, I could just go to the HMV website and "sort by price" for exactly the same thing... :?

I don't mind people making lists like that, but I think that they should at least highlight the titles that they think are brilliantly priced at the top of the thread, or better - in the title.

I'd also argue something else here... I don't buy a lot of DVDs online, but if there's a film I like at a good price then I'll buy it. Realistically, I think that there's a lot of people who do things in this way. Earlier on, I posted this deal for the BTTF Steelbook, over £5 cheaper than the best price elsewhere. Barneydog pointed out that he had posted it as post number 11 in this thread. Realistically, I doubt that it would have been spotted by many people, so I think that it EITHER needs listing on its own or in the title of a thread with a few titles listed... or at a minimum at the top of the OP.

I'm happy for people to post lists rather than separate deals, but I really do hope that more thought is put into them to make the good deals more accessible, visible and obvious.

One final suggestion that I have to possibly acheive this is to break down lists into smaller lists. For example, "£2.99 Horror Films at HMV! (Including: Title x, Title y and Title z)", "£2.99 Comedy Films at HMV! (Including: Title x, Title y and Title z)", etc.

Edit: This list is a fairly good example of what I think works...


Well said! I agree!
#29
thePhantom
I think they should just have a separate DVD section all together ...


That is not a bad idea!
#30
duckmagicuk2;4992989

I'd also argue something else here... I don't buy a lot of DVDs online, but if there's a film I like at a good price then I'll buy it. Realistically, I think that there's a lot of people who do things in this way. Earlier on, I posted this deal for the BTTF Steelbook, over £5 cheaper than the best price elsewhere. Barneydog pointed out that he had posted it as post number 11 in this thread. Realistically, I doubt that it would have been spotted by many people, so I think that it EITHER needs listing on its own or in the title of a thread with a few titles listed... or at a minimum at the top of the OP.


In hindsight I agree with you on this ducky, that particular example should be posted as a seperate deal, (I wasn't having a go at you when I posted in your thread, I was just trying to give some credit to the OP of the original deal thread OnTheBallCity).

The reasons I didn't post it were the Trilogy is available elsewhere cheaper although not the 4 disk version and I didn't realise how many saddo Steelbook collecters there are (like me :oops:).


It's not this type of DVD/CD deal that annoys me, it's the raft of mainly £2.99 etc ones that are the same price in the recuring sales that the main retailers seem to do.



duckmagicuk2;4992989
I think that they should at least highlight the titles that they think are brilliantly priced at the top of the thread, or better - in the title.


Agreed, that is a good idea :thumbsup: and might make the idea of lists more palatable to those who are against them.


As has been said before a filter to exclude DVD/CD deals would be good although it wouldn't help people like me who buy a lot of DVDs it would give others the option to do so.:)
#31
Haven't we been through all this from another angle.
#32
Adam2050
Haven't we been through all this from another angle.


Yes. But it was purely from the other angle. :p

This thread has been quite a lot more constructive so far, in my humble opinion...
banned#33
duckmagicuk2

Yes. But it was purely from the other angle. :p

This thread has been quite a lot more constructive so far, in my humble opinion...

Well its opened my eyes - i assumed everyone would prefer long lists, with a few highlighted. Clearly not.
#34
vibeone
Well its opened my eyes - i assumed everyone would prefer long lists, with a few highlighted. Clearly not.


In that case, it's been a successful thread. Generally, during an argument, people take opposite sides. Thrashing it out a little bit, in a constructive manner, can help everyone move to some sort of middle ground.

I think that things would be improved greatly with shorter (and possibly "themed") lists that highlight the better deals more...
#35
Just something to gauge opinion on, here...

What do people think of this thread? andywedge and ascottishbloke are updating the list on a daily basis, and highlighting price increases, decreases and new titles in the comments.

As you can see, this thread changes several times each day and it requires a huge amount of maintenance to keep it up-to-date. I think that this is a huge disadvantage of "lists", but the guys in here are doing a great job and would appreciate your feedback on usefulness, etc.
banned#36
small changes of 5p here 5p there make little difference, seems like a huge waste of their time. Price comparison websites do a better job
#37
lumoruk
small changes of 5p here 5p there make little difference, seems like a huge waste of their time. Price comparison websites do a better job


Hmm. I think that's quite an unfair comment.

I've just taken a snapshot of a random "update" post here...It happened to be post #37.


Changes - Price Reductions:

1. Day Watch [Blu-ray] [2006] 8.98 (15.98)
2. Dr. No [Blu-ray] [1962] 8.98 (11.98)
3. Gone in Sixty Seconds [Blu-ray] [2000] 11.98 (14.98)
4. House Of Flying Daggers [Blu-ray] [2004] 15.68 (15.98)
5. Master And Commander - The Far Side Of The World [Blu-ray] [2003] 9.78 (9.98)
6. Night Watch [Blu-ray] [2005] 9.98 (15.98)
7. Step Brothers [Blu-ray] [2008] 12.88 (15.68)
8. The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen [Blu-ray] [2003] 8.98 (9.78)
9. The Perfect Storm [Blu-ray] [2000] 9.98 (12.98)

The prices I've highlighted in bold are the ones which have reduced in price by £1 or more. 6 out of 9 of them reduced by £1 or more. The average price reduction in this list is £2.90. That's not really "5p here" or "5p there"...

In most cases this also updates a LOT faster than the likes of find-dvd, kelkoo, etc - even though it is manual.
#38
duckmagicuk2
Just something to gauge opinion on, here...

What do people think of this thread? andywedge and ascottishbloke are updating the list on a daily basis, and highlighting price increases, decreases and new titles in the comments.

As you can see, this thread changes several times each day and it requires a huge amount of maintenance to keep it up-to-date. I think that this is a huge disadvantage of "lists", but the guys in here are doing a great job and would appreciate your feedback on usefulness, etc.


I like that Idea.

I think you need more tabs for this sort of option.

But surely that would change the way the site works.
#39
duckmagicuk2
Just something to gauge opinion on, here...

What do people think of this thread? andywedge and ascottishbloke are updating the list on a daily basis, and highlighting price increases, decreases and new titles in the comments.

As you can see, this thread changes several times each day and it requires a huge amount of maintenance to keep it up-to-date. I think that this is a huge disadvantage of "lists", but the guys in here are doing a great job and would appreciate your feedback on usefulness, etc.


The list is kept fairly concise and understandable, but don't you think it's a bit of a laborious task for some of the Forum Helpers (and credit to them) to have to keep updating and managing it when they could be put to better use somewhere else.
#40
steveilevi
The list is kept fairly concise and understandable, but don't you think it's a bit of a laborious task for some of the Forum Helpers (and credit to them) to have to keep updating and managing it when they could be put to better use somewhere else.


I do, yes. Lists do need to be kept up-to-date though. Lists do seem to go against the whole "self-maintaining" idea of the site... But it's a good list, all the same.

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