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#2
LOL, that thread would of been good for every poster if the rule was clarified in general, a generic respone to the question for every posters benefit would of been better, so people don't fall foul of the rule again:? ho hum.
#3
That means you cant sell more than 2 dvds within 3 months nor 2 different console games etc
[mod]#4
Does that mean I cannot sell 4 new t-shirts of the same make! For me, thats a bit harsh. If they were selling 100 I would say that the rule should apply. As they arent, it is harsh.
banned#5
its always bad when a mod locks down a thrread like this, but something most of us are used to
[mod]#6
sassie
its always bad when a mod locks down a thrread like this, but something most of us are used to


True. We should be allowed to discuss contentious issues within the rules. At the end of the day, we have a huge input on this site.
#7
Rules getting silly on here and mods getting like jobsworths. Not worth selling here at all now its just beyond a joke and getting so its hardly worth visiting the for sale area.

It used to be so good too so dont know what went wrong at all, shame really.
[mod]#8
waj1234
Rules getting silly on here and mods getting like jobsworths. Not worth selling here at all now its just beyond a joke and getting so its hardly worth visiting the for sale area.

It used to be so good too so dont know what went wrong at all, shame really.


...just a theory...fs/ft doesnt make the site any immediate money...surprised it is still running.
#9
magicjay1986
...just a theory...fs/ft doesnt make the site any immediate money...surprised it is still running.


You read my mind, I was going to say, all these rules, hassle and misunderstandings, would not be a way to get rid of fs/t through the back door:whistling:
It does seem more hassle than what it's worth for the users and site.
#10
magicjay1986;6216410
...just a theory...fs/ft doesnt make the site any immediate money...surprised it is still running.


Probably right but why moderate it so aggressively, just leave folk to it and let them make there own mistakes? You never get the same hassle on other just as good forums.
#11
really think this all needs some ABSOLUTE clarification once and for all for everyones sake-you cant sell 4 t shirts but you can post dozens of threads of childrens clothing.

you cant sell 4 mobile phones but you can sell 200 dvds??
[mod]#12
waj1234
Probably right but why moderate it so aggressively, just leave folk to it and let them make there own mistakes? You never get the same hassle on other just as good forums.


There are some incredibly ambiguous rules which need clearing up.

One was highlighted tonight...does 4 t-shirts of the same brand constitute "bulk?". Not in my book.

Also, the rule on profiteering can sometimes lead to absurdity. If it hasnt already been bought on this site and then being sold above the initial purchase price or if you arent selling it above RRP then it is fine (in my opinion; not the rules though). It is surely up to a potential buyer. They wouldnt put an offer in if they didnt want the item at that price.
#13
barky
really think this all needs some ABSOLUTE clarification once and for all for everyones sake-you cant sell 4 t shirts but you can post dozens of threads of childrens clothing.

you cant sell 4 mobile phones but you can sell 200 dvds??


not having a go but could a mod please explain in plain english what the rules are? not just copy/paste a paragraph but actually address the specifics raised by members please.
#14
having a fs/t forum increases traffic to the site just like misc does, dont kid yourselves that its only here to keep us happy :)
banned#15
barky
not having a go but could a mod please explain in plain english what the rules are? not just copy/paste a paragraph but actually address the specifics raised by members please.


You're joking aren't you, the rules are just made up and changed as they go along. Look at the one on multi id's as an example :w00t:
#16
I suggest using the better forum for selling which has fewer silly rules and a much clearer setup with seperate categories and a propper forum view like it used to look on here before it was messed with:thumbsup:
#17
Pauladin91;6216467
I have to agree. I think scottishbloke is particularly annoying as he always closes threads because of no picture, why not just ask for one and wait. So annoying...

The rules also dont ASK for a pic it says a pic can help sale.:roll:
#18
t0mm;6216484
The rules also dont ASK for a pic it says a pic can help sale.:roll:

u sure, i thought it changed, oh well, seems rules made depending on member
banned#19
Pauladin91
I have to agree. I think scottishbloke is particularly annoying as he always closes threads because of no picture, why not just ask for one and wait. So annoying...


Really? Didn't think it was in the rules you had to post a pic, then again I don't go in there much so obviously I thought wrong.
banned#20
you dont have to provide pics unless a mod asks, then you do, also i believe members asking for pics can be considered as bumps
#21
dcx_badass;6216513
Nah, **** mods have told me my thread is locked unless I provide a pic even though no-one asked, they make this **** up when they're bored.

Tbh it's really only one mod, who isn't even a FS/FT mod.

That mod is Col.
[mod]#22
[B]We have rules in FS/FT that must be adhered to. The thread in question was correctly locked by another moderator for breaching one of the rules (bulk selling). Anyone who is unsure of the rules regarding bulk selling and/or any other rule in FS/FT can read them HERE[/B]
[mod]#23
andywedge
[B]We have rules in FS/FT that must be adhered to. The thread in question was correctly locked by another moderator for breaching one of the rules (bulk selling). Anyone who is unsure of the rules regarding bulk selling and/or any other rule in FS/FT can read them HERE[/B]


Isnt "bulk" a large number of items...eg. a bulk of strawberries...that would suggest a fair few punnets.

Common sense should prevail, 4 items isnt bulk.
#24
so if i sell 4 different xbox games by the same company in one thread is this bulk selling?
#25
It is obvious in almost all cases that it is not bulk and just private sales of unwanted items. I for one get bored of my mobile very quickly and sell em on and buy another. Always used ones too, but it hardly makes me a dealer selling in bulk. Bloody stupid rules.
[mod]#26
waj1234
It is obvious in almost all cases that it is not bulk and just private sales of unwanted items. I for one get bored of my mobile very quickly and sell em on and buy another. Always used ones too, but it hardly makes me a dealer selling in bulk. Bloody stupid rules.


I completely agree but try and be a bit more diplomatic otherwise this thread will probably get closed. Until we can get our point across I want it to stay open.
banned#27
as always it will be down to mod discretion what is classed as bulk selling, etc,etc, so complete waste of time moaning, it will never change
#28
Thats the point tho, they are very silly rules in most cases, its like being back at school which is more than 20 years ago for me:-D
#29
sassie;6216766
as always it will be down to mod discretion what is classed as bulk selling, etc,etc, so complete waste of time moaning, it will never change

lots of bulking selling currently goin on atm :)
and how r u young sassie
banned#30
intenso100
lots of bulking selling currently goin on atm :)
and how r u young sassie


no doubt there is, and always will be, but depends on reports and what the md dealing with it thinks


im good thanks hun, and you?
banned#31
imo mods go over the top in FS/FT
#33
So what about when por ejemplo: you sell The Harry potter box set, year 1-5.

Same thing, 5 different movies.
#34
andywedge;6216683
[B]We have rules in FS/FT that must be adhered to. The thread in question was correctly locked by another moderator for breaching one of the rules (bulk selling). Anyone who is unsure of the rules regarding bulk selling and/or any other rule in FS/FT can read them HERE[/B]


Stupid reply, stupid lock of the thread in feedback. The whole point of that thread is people were asking for clarification of the rules, not a crass 'its in the rules, thread locked' reply. You guys really do yourself no favours sometimes.

Here is the rule in nice big print for you:
[SIZE=5](1) This is for personal trading and selling only. Multi user/connected accounts are NOT permitted in this forum. NO businesses, trader like, businesslike behaviour or services. NO bulk sales of more than two of the SAME items sold separately or together as a 'lot' within a three month period.NO linking to an external business, eBay/Amazon Marketplace store.[/SIZE]
Care to explain when a item is the SAME and not the same as everyone has been asking? People have given very rational examples of the unclarity here and asked for it to be explained - why are 3 DVD's/games different but T-Shirts the same? Its not clear from the rule or the answers given. Instead your answer is to lock the thread and say 'its in the rules'. Seems to me you guys can't work out the rules between yourselves so how do you expect the members to, especially when you are so arrogant to not explain them?
[admin]#35
Guys, we're reviewing this so please bear with us

#36
juliet_bravo;6217048
Guys, we're reviewing this so please bear with us


Why lock the feedback thread though when the points raised aren't answered?

Its a completely pointless action, it only serves to aggravate and frustrate people...
[mod]#37
jah128
Why lock the feedback thread though when the points raised aren't answered?

Its a completely pointless action, it only serves to aggravate and frustrate people...


Wait until we get an initial response instead of a bombardment of side questions.
banned#38
juliet_bravo
Guys, we're reviewing this so please bear with us



whats to review?
either you know the rule or you don't. If the t-shirts are the same then you need to go through and lock all the threads with 3+ dvds, games etc.
If they are different just say a mistake was made

If you have to review the rules to decide how to enforce them, then how exactly are the members supposed to follow them?
#39
colinsunderland;6217139
whats to review?
either you know the rule or you don't. If the t-shirts are the same then you need to go through and lock all the threads with 3+ dvds, games etc.
If they are different just say a mistake was made

If you have to review the rules to decide how to enforce them, then how exactly are the members supposed to follow them?

It's because they don't have a clue.
The only mods should be the ones who can actually do their job.

and yes, sassie should be a FS/FT mod.
#40
This is an absolute QUALITY thread - I have just read both threads (after coming in) and gone through the both with great interest.

You all make fantastically GOOD arguements - and as mot of you are aware this is not the 1st time by a long shot this exact rule has been over zealously enforced - but I wont just simply reiterate what you have all said.

For what its worth, i also think that the points you have made about "Rather than just lock the thread and give no feedback as to why - etc etc' is very well put.
What IS the point if common sence doesn't prevail and so on.
Fantastic interesting thread - and points very well made.

Will be following out of pure curiosity alone - but I do agree it is really sad that it has got like this.....It used to be soooooo sweet and harmonious and simple a long time ago.....

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