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#1
Wouldn't that be a kind of racism? :oops:
#2
I cant see a problem with putting up CDs/DVDs. There may be a few bad apples, but I've got some good deals on here through those posts. The way I see it, is you dont have to open the post?
#3
I don't open the posts, but you have to scroll past loads of them before finding anything worthwhile. It's just cluttering deals page with rubbish. This site used to be great for proper deals, now it's just full of awful films and terrible music.

It's starting to remind me of the bargain bin at motorway service stations. There's a big difference between being cheap and being a hot deal.
#4
dean_brfc
I don't open the posts, but you have to scroll past loads of them before finding anything worthwhile. It's just cluttering deals page with rubbish. This site used to be great for proper deals, now it's just full of awful films and terrible music.

It's starting to remind me of the bargain bin at motorway service stations. There's a big difference between being cheap and being a hot deal.


ha, fair point. I still dont mind them though as there are a lot of requests for people to sell DVDs etc. I agree with music though. Some are awful hahaha
[helper]#5
Its all this posting seperately thats doing my head in! Im sure certain members just do it to up their count quickly. PLEASE STOP!!!!!!!!!!
banned#6
just do what I do and vote them cold. If everyone did the same then the members concerned (only a few I have noticed - maybe they work in the stores!); then they'd soon stop putting them up.
banned#7
Maybe a single thread like "Latest £2.99 CD's" would help and then just got added to.
banned#8
yeah getting a bit sick of the constant £3 dvd and cd ,posted by a certain 'AW', how about listing at least 5 at a time or something
banned 1 Like #9
bargainsgalore;4753594
yeah getting a bit sick of the constant £3 dvd and cd ,posted by a certain 'AW', how about listing at least 5 at a time or something

vote them cold then. AW will soon stop posting once they see the frosty reception.
[helper]#10
Agree with the last three comments BUT if we start voting them all cold wont we all get banned or something?
#11
csiman
vote them cold then. AW will soon stop posting once they see the frosty reception.


I agree that there are too many of these deals posted. Now and then you do spot something good however it's more like a 'this is a list of my favourite bands/artists' most of the time.
[mod]#12
Use the Contact Us and demand to know why Admin hasn't set the site up purely for your needs. :)
#13
Syzable
Use the Contact Us and demand to know why Admin hasn't set the site up purely for your needs. :)


People aren't allowed to express an opinion thesedays then are they? :roll:
banned#14
csiman
vote them cold then. AW will soon stop posting once they see the frosty reception.


I do for most, but alot of them are nostalgic choices like 'bagpuss', and people think 'oh I used to love that pink pussy cat' an 'those were the days' regardless of whether it's actuall;y a good deal
#15
Syzable
Use the Contact Us and demand to know why Admin hasn't set the site up purely for your needs. :)


What a pointless and non-constructive reply. 99% of the deals posted on here aren't for my needs but I don't think they should go from the front page. All these DVD/CD threads are just cheapening the site however. They make about 100 degrees, get the odd comment, and just completely clutter the place.

I did vote cold for a while but it didn't make any difference. I'm not suggesting that people stop posting them, but can we at least segregate them or list them all in one thread?
#16
I agree that there are a few members who do nothing else than clog the site up with everything they can find under £3 at hmv, play and amazon..... they must think people dont realise these sites exist and find a need to tell us about every single naff item under £3 that can no way be called hot....

Heaven knows why they insist in doing it but i wish it would stop and get back to decent deals on the front page rather than crapdvdsrus.com
[mod]#17
Why not find deals yourself to post then? Between the two of you, you have posted 2 deals in 6 months.

Why have a go at others for doing something you don't bother doing? If you are just here to see what others post then put up with it.
#18
I have to agree with the o/p on this one. I hate the mentality that just because its under £3 its a smoking hot bargain. If its a duff dvd/cd then its obviously not worth promoting surely?
#19
csiman;4753387
just do what I do and vote them cold. If everyone did the same then the members concerned (only a few I have noticed - maybe they work in the stores!); then they'd soon stop putting them up.


* Abuse of the voting system, reputation, expiry and spam buttons will lead to a ban from the forums.


You should be voting on a deal on its own merits. Please don't vote on something because you don't like seeing that type of deal posted.

Obviously everyone has different opinions as to what they want to see on here - but HUKD is for everyone, and everyone likes different things.

I used to hate the supermarket deals, but now I really like them - your likes change over time as well.
#20
I agree with dean. The internet has killed all the dvd and cd sales. Therefore everyone is selling them at bargain price. I dont think it should be on front page as there are sooo many. Could there possibly be a seperate place for them.
#21
Syzable;4756491
Why not find deals yourself to post then? Between the two of you, you have posted 2 deals in 6 months.

Why have a go at others for doing something you don't bother doing? If you are just here to see what others post then put up with it.


That's getting the argument the wrong way round - it wouldn't be hard if I wanted to go and start posting every single item in the HMV sale as a separate deal and in fact if a few people did so it would clog the forum pretty quickly. However two people doing it is bad enough and given I dislike the style of posting I wouldn't do so myself.

John
#22
dean_brfc
What a pointless and non-constructive reply. 99% of the deals posted on here aren't for my needs but I don't think they should go from the front page. All these DVD/CD threads are just cheapening the site however. They make about 100 degrees, [COLOR="Red"]get the odd comment[/COLOR], and just completely clutter the place.

I did vote cold for a while but it didn't make any difference. I'm not suggesting that people stop posting them, but can we at least segregate them or list them all in one thread?


If that's the case, and it's only the 'odd comment', they'll soon drop off the first couple of pages - I can't see what all the fuss is over :?
#23
midlandscomics;4767413
If that's the case, and it's only the 'odd comment', they'll soon drop off the first couple of pages - I can't see what all the fuss is over :?


Because they just keep on coming...
#24
Hello and welcome whinners,

What's the point of this site again? Oh yeh that's it HotUkdeals, right so were not a forum suited to one member's needs then, err no. So what are we oh were a site for everyone, oh yeh.

Certain people in the post who don't post deals have the balls to whine about others posting information regarding cheap DVD's and CD's which I'm glad of as I actually pay for my content. To whine about deals you need to at least make an effort to post more then one deal please don't critisize others before you do.

However I do agree that there has been a lot of DVD's and CD postings of recent, but this is due to there being no other deals worth shouting about, I myself have posted several repeat deals for many reasons, mainly to save people money as I think thats the reason for this site.

If you want to find deals please do and post them in between the torrent of other deals, but do not for a second vote these deals cold because, oh I don't like them, I would hope the mods would pick up on this and wipe the floor with you, infact I know they do pick up on this because I myself even used the system incorrectly at the start, which was fair enough, I was told how to by certain members.

I'm sick of seeing the same deals sometimes, but bottom line is its here to save you money, so what If your a young gun who loves to download the world through his torrent base. Some of us arn't.

So do us a favour and use the contact us on the forum page and stop posting whine about certain members, your just making yourself like stupid and unwanted, I would love to give you a second chance and forget the whole gang up on a certain member you keep stalking.

And before you bother replying with some childish repsonse don't.

P.S I have expired this crap and reported it to be closed. Hope you feel this is the right move.

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#25
This is a forum which allows for open discussion, not a closed dictatorship, also you can hardly complain about people whining when you've just gone off on a rant after not actually bothering to read the thread. It isn't 'one member' it's more than that especially as this isn't the only thread either. None of it is anything to do with piracy either which suggests you're perhaps not as innocent as you're tying to claim.

But to go back to your first point, yes this is hotukdeals - not slightlycheapercdsanddvdswhichanyonewhoknowshowtogettothehmvorplaysitecaneasilybrowsethroughwithoutneedingeverysingleonepostedasaseparatedealwhenthey'renotreallydealsasitisukdeals.com

Posting large numbers of items from a single site is inefficient for everyone, it takes considerably more time for that person posting the deal, it takes more time for those interested in the group of items to browse through them as they're all separated and those who aren't interested have to try and working around the clogged forum to find the other deals. As has been demonstrated in the other thread a single deal containing the highlights of any sale is considerably more efficient for those interested in the deal and those who are not.

By 'expiring this crap' you are contradicting yourself yet again (no surprise there), you don't want people voting cold for the wrong reason yet you're happy to expire a an entirely legimate thread in the correct forum section. The main source of 'crap' seems to be coming squarely from you.

John
#26
Personally I really enjoy the Cheap CD's and DVD's but I guess I can understand people getting fed up with seeing them.

I'm not knowledgeable in these sort of things but would it take too much effort to have the ability to filter CD's and DVD's ? I realise it can't be done at present.

At the very least it would stop this topic cropping up every so often. In the meantime keep posting those cheap cd's and dvd's guys, I'm still filling gaps in my collections. Thanks.
[mod]#27
The first thing I feel that I need to point out is that, by the very nature of the websites name "Hot UK Deals", it is intended to be used as a website where people post and find deals that others feel will be of interest to the good people of the United Kingdom. The vast majority of people appreciate and like to see individual posts of DVD’s/CD’s.

If a CD/DVD (or any product for that matter) is posted by myself/amibees, or anyone else and it is the cheapest available then it warrants being posted. As per HUKD rules, if any post/deal does not attract you then you should ignore it. If it interests you and you believe it to be a good/the best price then vote it hot, or if you believe it to be a bad/more expensive price than elsewhere then vote it cold.

Personally, there are 100's of posts that don't interest me. For example, televisions, mobile phones, clothing etc. If someone set up a thread in feedback to ban these posts, or group them together I would not back that request either, because though they don't attract me, they will attract scores of other HUKD users. I just ignore them and scroll on.

Why not just scroll past and ignore the posts that don't interest you rather than voting CD/DVD post cold? Csiman, I am surprised to see such a long time member with a high reputation posting comments like “Vote them cold then. AW will soon stop posting once they see the frosty reception.” As Emmajk42 has already pointed out, “Abuse of the voting system, reputation, expiry and spam buttons will lead to a ban from the forums”.

There are advantages/disadvantages for having multi CD/DVD threads. A great deal of users scroll through HUKD looking only at the title/image. If a cracking priced CD/DVD is placed in this type of thread then they can be easily missed. Websites like Play/HMV etc update their prices/stock several times a day; so when I, amibees and many others spot a recently added bargain then we post it. If only one thread was set up highlighting that CD's/DVD's are available at £2.99 at HMV/Play etc it would have to be updated every 15 minutes or so as items/prices change. How many HUKDers check back more than 24 hours when looking for bargains/deals? Hardly any. So, deals will be missed. If an item posted was £2.99 and then becomes £8.99 again, or sells out we expire the deal, so the HUKD users know that it is no longer available. As good as adsldaves big post was, and thoroughly deserved the heat it got I am sure he will be the first to admit that a great number of items posted in that thread are now out of date/sold out/more expensive etc. My point is that individual posts are bang up to date, multithreads can be out of date within hours.

I like to see individual posts personally, as do many other HUKD users. A Metallica CD post would not interest a Take That fan and visa versa. As many people get confused with the voting system here (i.e. they vote based on whether they like the product or not, rather than the price) I have seen many a good multithread voted down/never being made hot because of that reason also; just as I have seen many individual deals voted down/never being made hot. Comments like "rather expensive for a coaster" or "I would want to be paid to own this CD" followed by the cold vote only ruins the chances of a fan from ever discovering the deal (as the majority of users only view the “hot” pages) and also backs up my “many people get confused with the voting system” comment.

I’m afraid that CD/DVD deals/bargains are here to stay, and in future, just ignore them. But really, it doesn’t do you any harm to see bargain CD/DVD’s posted here, and if your finger has to do a little bit more work to scroll past that £2.99 CD/DVD that has no relevance to you, remember that it has plenty of relevance to other HUKD users who benefit greatly from these types of posts.
#28
andywedge, if the discussion is still open, could you "Un-expire" the thread please. :)
[helper]#29
It would be interesting if we could have some kind of a vote on here about this. Personally I think all these deals really has clogged up and wrecked what was a great site.
#30
Johnmcl7
This is a forum which allows for open discussion, not a closed dictatorship, also you can hardly complain about people whining when you've just gone off on a rant after not actually bothering to read the thread. It isn't 'one member' it's more than that especially as this isn't the only thread either. None of it is anything to do with piracy either which suggests you're perhaps not as innocent as you're tying to claim.

But to go back to your first point, yes this is hotukdeals - not slightlycheapercdsanddvdswhichanyonewhoknowshowtogettothehmvorplaysitecaneasilybrowsethroughwithoutneedingeverysingleonepostedasaseparatedealwhenthey'renotreallydealsasitisukdeals.com

Posting large numbers of items from a single site is inefficient for everyone, it takes considerably more time for that person posting the deal, it takes more time for those interested in the group of items to browse through them as they're all separated and those who aren't interested have to try and working around the clogged forum to find the other deals. As has been demonstrated in the other thread a single deal containing the highlights of any sale is considerably more efficient for those interested in the deal and those who are not.

By 'expiring this crap' you are contradicting yourself yet again (no surprise there), you don't want people voting cold for the wrong reason yet you're happy to expire a an entirely legimate thread in the correct forum section. The main source of 'crap' seems to be coming squarely from you.

John


All I can say to that is read the whole story.

A few mentioned in this forum post have not been giving feedback they have been trolling, abusing and stalking certain members, my points are valid if you read everything they have been doing.

They should use the contact system.

If someone posts something slightler cheaper then price I was going to pay then good on them they have saved me 20p 30p £200 or 1p it all adds up shame on you if you don't want that information.

P.S Make a custom tab then to solve the CD/DVD problem for yourself. And second to that learn to use the search function properly for deals, I personally don't like sales posts as they are often missed because I use the FS/FT function and work a lot so tends to be to much information to search through.

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1 Like #31
I'm not sure why CD & DVD's have been singled out here or come to that why the finger is being pointed at individuals. Why some of these critisisms couldn't have been put in a PM to a mod is beyond me instead of starting a witch-hunt and the pathetic 'we'll vote certain members deals cold until they get the message'. Those that have been long time lurkers (like me until I officially signed up in 2007) or long time members will remember the early days when the site was finding its feet and the deals were slow coming. As the word spread and more people joined then the pace at which the deals were posted speeded up until we have what we have today - many people posting multiple deals (and not just CDs/DVDs) that cause the deals to be shunted off the pages at a fast pace. Miss a day and you have to go back half a dozen pages to catch up! The site has been a victim of its own success if you like. If people have a problem with this why don't they suggest improvements in a constructive way or make contact with the mods in private to air their views instead of chastising someone for doing precicely what the site is there for - posting a deal. Its up to the people that use the vote buttons to make up their own minds if the deal is 'pointless' and to decide their fate. There's a fair number of people that use this site that contribute plenty of pointless,rude,unhelpful and empty posts - some in the thousands, what are we going to do about them?? As well as encouraging the large number of deal posts that certain individuals are complaining about, the success of this site has attracted hoaxers, whingers and people just out to stir and cause trouble - that, in my eyes, is the biggest tragedy about this site growing in popularity and NOT the number of 'pointless' deals.

p.s. just to be constructive heres a suggestion - maybe split the entertainment topic (or any others for that matter) that appears at the top of the page into subcategories like Cd's & DVD's? Then to take it further, make them into on/off type buttons to give people the choice to turn them on or off and filter the type of deals they see? I know this may be impossible or difficult to do from a programming side of things, but its a suggestion :thumbsup:

p.p.s. just realised you can do most of my suggestion on the custom tab (never used it, sorry!), just need the categories splitting then to make the OP happy :thumbsup:
#32
Syzable
Use the Contact Us and demand to know why Admin hasn't set the site up purely for your needs. :)


+1

Just because you don't like the deals doesn't mean another person won't. I cant stand all the supermarket deals (even though i posted one myself lol) but they help other people out so i just ignore them and carry on scrolling maybe this is what the OP should do.
banned#33
Johnmcl7;4767991
This is a forum which allows for open discussion, not a closed dictatorship, also you can hardly complain about people whining when you've just gone off on a rant after not actually bothering to read the thread. It isn't 'one member' it's more than that especially as this isn't the only thread either. None of it is anything to do with piracy either which suggests you're perhaps not as innocent as you're tying to claim.

But to go back to your first point, yes this is hotukdeals - not slightlycheapercdsanddvdswhichanyonewhoknowshowtogettothehmvorplaysitecaneasilybrowsethroughwithoutneedingeverysingleonepostedasaseparatedealwhenthey'renotreallydealsasitisukdeals.com

Posting large numbers of items from a single site is inefficient for everyone, it takes considerably more time for that person posting the deal, it takes more time for those interested in the group of items to browse through them as they're all separated and those who aren't interested have to try and working around the clogged forum to find the other deals. As has been demonstrated in the other thread a single deal containing the highlights of any sale is considerably more efficient for those interested in the deal and those who are not.

By 'expiring this crap' you are contradicting yourself yet again (no surprise there), you don't want people voting cold for the wrong reason yet you're happy to expire a an entirely legimate thread in the correct forum section. The main source of 'crap' seems to be coming squarely from you.

John

Well said! :thumbsup:
banned#34
Well i started a thread yesterday on this same subject, and it was removed and I got this message

If anyone makes a personal attack on any other member, including moderators or forum helpers, or requests other people vote in a certain way to manipulate the system, they will receive infractions that could stack up to a full site ban.

Pretty crazy really when all I asked is whether there are other people on the site that thinks there should not be so many £3 dvd and cd deals. It's bordering on the line of fa**ism really.
#35
could I just ask if it is possible to change the topics selection so instead of just looking at one topic - entertainment or Groceries etc, you could also look at everything BUT a certain topic, or select the ones you do want to include.

This would allow all these anti CD/DVD people to view the site without getting so angry, and it would work for other peoples preferences too.

I dont know how much work this would be, but worth a look ?
#36
ianstanley;4778431
could I just ask if it is possible to change the topics selection so instead of just looking at one topic - entertainment or Groceries etc, you could also look at everything BUT a certain topic, or select the ones you do want to include.

This would allow all these anti CD/DVD people to view the site without getting so angry, and it would work for other peoples preferences too.

I dont know how much work this would be, but worth a look ?


You can do this in your custom settings on your custom tab. Just add every category except the ones you are not interested in.
#37
great,

so what is everyones problem then. If you dont like it, sort your options out and you dont see it.
#38
bargainsgalore
Well i started a thread yesterday on this same subject, and it was removed and I got this message

If anyone makes a personal attack on any other member, including moderators or forum helpers, or requests other people vote in a certain way to manipulate the system, they will receive infractions that could stack up to a full site ban.

Pretty crazy really when all I asked is whether there are other people on the site that thinks there should not be so many £3 dvd and cd deals. It's bordering on the line of fa**ism really.


HA HA Fasc1sm, yeh okay.

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#39
ianstanley
great,

so what is everyones problem then. If you dont like it, sort your options out and you dont see it.


You can't filter out DVD/CD Deals.
banned#40
ianstanley;4780171
great,

so what is everyones problem then. If you dont like it, sort your options out and you dont see it.

no solution as far as I can see :?

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