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#1
is this another filth/bg1/jfk witch hunt? if so should be in misc.

or is this an example of the clever trolling that your refering to?
1 Like #2
trolling is now condoned to a certain extent it seems by recent events,which is why everyone is jumping on the bandwagon
banned#3
It seems that any comment that someone doesn't agree with or can't understand in context is labelled as 'trolling'.

I've just been accused of trolling because I asked questions about abstaining from things in a thread about fasting.

Go figure.
#4
ants97
is this another filth/bg1/jfk witch hunt? if so should be in misc.

or is this an example of the clever trolling that your refering to?


Not sure why you condone any of the above who do troll users (Not saying all of them do or one of them particularly does as that would be 'witch hunting' as you say, they know who they are and there intentions).

Besides them there has been a few today not the usual trollers above who do mask there trolling in side questions or straight forward questions aimed at disrupting or annoying members into a reaction.

Not going to label the thread as theres no point people 'witch hunting' again.

Admins know through the people who report the trollers.

boothy
trolling is now fully condoned it seems by recent events,which is why everyone is jumping on the bandwagon


I don't think its fully condoned I think they just don't come harsh enough on the continuing trollers. Surely if they continually do it why do they have so many suspensions, surely 3-4 times is enough before its obvious that they only troll users rather then adding to the forum.
#5
FilthAndFurry
It seems that any comment that someone doesn't agree with or can't understand in context is labelled as 'trolling'.

I've just been accused of trolling because I asked questions about abstaining from things in a thread about fasting.

Go figure.

yeah i agree.

clever trolling? well people call me a troll , but they also call me stupid, so i guess this aint about me.
#6
Adam2050




I don't think its fully condoned I think they just don't come harsh enough on the continuing trollers. Surely if they continually do it why do they have so many suspensions, surely 3-4 times is enough before its obvious that they only troll users rather then adding to the forum.


Yep,maybe I was a bit harsh saying its fully condoned,and will edit my post,agree with you ref the above,one user in particular has been suspended numerous times in the past couple of weeks for trolling,but still it continues,surely a further infraction should result in a permanent ban?
#7
boothy
Yep,maybe I was a bit harsh saying its fully condoned,and will edit my post,agree with you ref the above,one user in particular has been suspended numerous times in the past couple of weeks for trolling,but still it continues,surely a further infraction should result in a permanent ban?


Well if there is enough proof with any user who does this over and over again without any benefit to the forum or any positive input surely that's enough for me to say (only my opinnion), that he/she has no place on the forum and has been given enough warnings.:?
banned#8
boothy
Yep,maybe I was a bit harsh saying its fully condoned,and will edit my post,agree with you ref the above,one user in particular has been suspended numerous times in the past couple of weeks for trolling,but still it continues,surely a further infraction should result in a permanent ban?


Says the person who trolls in threads, and posts pictures of Nazis in threads about 'legends'.

It's obvious to anyone looking on, and it's getting a little stale.
#9
What is clever trolling? I've never heard of that before. I'd also like to know what you mean when you say "Fair few for stupid comments made to cause a reaction..." I've tried reading it allowed, but I'm afraid I'm at a loss.
#10
windhoek
What is clever trolling? I've never heard of that before. I'd also like to know what you mean when you say "Fair few for stupid comments made to cause a reaction..." I've tried reading it allowed, but I'm afraid I'm at a loss.


Try reading again without the obvious mistake? Won't let me edit.

Clever trolling in my opinnion is pretending to be interested in the positive things in the subject matter and trolling for a reaction to jump on and defend/attack.
#11
Adam2050
Well if there is enough proof with any user who does this over and over again without any benefit to the forum or any positive input surely that's enough for me to say (only my opinnion), that he/she has no place on the forum and has been given enough warnings.:?


agreed:thumbsup:
banned#12
Adam2050
Well if there is enough proof with any user who does this over and over again without any benefit to the forum or any positive input surely that's enough for me to say (only my opinnion), that he/she has no place on the forum and has been given enough warnings.:?


Who exactly is this aimed at? This is a deals site, and I contribute a fair few deals.

There are certain members who do nothing but antagonise people that they have labelled as 'trolls' without posting anything else.

I can be 'controversial' but at least I'm honest.
banned#13
whats a troll ?
banned#14
Adam2050
Try reading again without the obvious mistake? Won't let me edit.

Clever trolling in my opinnion is pretending to be interested in the positive things in the subject matter and trolling for a reaction to jump on and defend/attack.


That's just a way of pointing out flaws in a person's idea - it's a valid form of debate, not trolling.

Is it just people disagreeing in this way that you object to?:?
banned#15
fragaliciousbob
whats a troll ?


Depends on who you are. Some people think it's someone you disagree with:roll:
#16
fragaliciousbob
whats a troll ?


"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

That's the Wikipedia definition.:thumbsup: As if you didn't know :thumbsup:
#17
Adam2050
Try reading again without the obvious mistake? Won't let me edit.

Clever trolling in my opinnion is pretending to be interested in the positive things in the subject matter and trolling for a reaction to jump on and defend/attack.


ahh, thanks.
banned#18
FilthAndFurry
Depends on who you are. Some people think it's someone you disagree with:roll:


Adam2050
"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

That's the Wikipedia definition.:thumbsup: As if you didn't know :thumbsup:


lol sorry guys of course i know what a troll is just wanted to see if i got any reactions
#19
fragaliciousbob
lol sorry guys of course i know what a troll is just wanted to see if i got any reactions


I know you knew, I knew, you knowed.

I think lol.
banned#20
Adam2050
I know you knew, I knew, you knowed.

I think lol.


and i know thet you know that i knew
#21
I've been thinking more about what you mean by clever trolling. If Socrates were alive today, I think he would have said that the sophists of antiquity were trolls; for they often engaged others in dialogue with the purpose of embarrassing others enjoined in the conversation by exposing their flawed thinking. Although Socrates often exposed flaws in people's thinking, he did not do it through mischief or malice, but rather did it in pursuit of Truth.
#22
fragaliciousbob
and i know thet you know that i knew


I knew that both of you knew that each other knew
#23
windhoek
I've been thinking more about what you mean by clever trolling. If Socrates were alive today, I think he would have said that the sophists of antiquity were trolls; for they often engaged others in dialogue with the purpose of embarrassing others enjoined in the conversation by exposing their flawed thinking. Although Socrates often exposed flaws in people's thinking, he did not do it through mischief or malice, but rather did it in pursuit of Truth.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/466693/r-i-p/?p=6110128#post6110128
banned#24
boothy
I knew that both of you knew that each other knew


just as long as we all know that each other knows and knew what a troll is that is my only concern at this point not worried what socrates might of thought thats for sure
[helper]#25
boothy
trolling is now condoned to a certain extent it seems by recent events,which is why everyone is jumping on the bandwagon


Pretty much sums it up.....

A year or so ago the troll threads wouldn't have lasted 2 mins........now we have multiple troll threads as they know they can get away with it.
banned#26
who's the worst culprit.............................?
#27
csiman
who's the worst culprit.............................?


you first:)
#28
#29
windhoek
That was a great thread:p


its a shame only one of you could post in it,unlike this one
banned#30
csiman
who's the worst culprit.............................?


i'd have to say thesaint myself he seems to enjoys making one comment usually derogatory just to get peoples reactions
#31
windhoek
What is clever trolling? I've never heard of that before. I'd also like to know what you mean when you say "Fair few for stupid comments made to cause a reaction..." I've tried reading it allowed, but I'm afraid I'm at a loss.


gari189
Pretty much sums it up.....

A year or so ago the troll threads wouldn't have lasted 2 mins........now we have multiple troll threads as they know they can get away with it.


What used to happen Gari interested to know?
#32
boothy
its a shame only one of you could post in it,unlike this one


Do you mean that there's more than one of me? I thought I was a unique being?
banned#33
windhoek
Do you mean that there's more than one of me? I thought I was a unique being?


no mate there 1000's like you out there
#34
similar is not equal to the same as.
banned#35
boothy;6197034
you first:)

are you serious? :-D

surely thesaint or filthfurry are above me (although not in intelligence terms)?
banned#36
csiman
are you serious? :-D

surely thesaint or filthfurry are above me (although not in intelligence terms)?


:thumbsup: yup :thumbsup:
[admin]#37
Guys we've gone over and over this.

We do not condone or allow trolling in any way, however there is a fine line between a discussion that you personally do not like/agree with, and a thread/comment which has been deliberately posted to incite an argument.
#38
Come on guys don't point the fingers we know who does troll, no need to name. Ta
#39
Adam2050
Come on guys don't point the fingers we know who does troll, no need to name. Ta


post deleted at request of op

although ants97 who was the first person to name people is the one who has complained about this thread
#40
boothy
post deleted at request of op

although ants97 who was the first person to name people is the one who has complained about this thread


the thing is though my naming them never was intended as a derogatry comment unlike others on this thread.:thumbsup:

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