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banned#1
awwww why you leaving? :-(
#2
At the rate I'm going I'm going to be hit with a ban anyway and banned users are not deleted. the are left with a simple banned under their name and I don't want that so I'd rather just go now. :)
#3
you have raised an interesting point regards copyright - but it is only a forum...............

why are you thinking of leaving........one of the best on here ..............

you cant anyway as they wont cancel:-D
#4
I'm begining to think they don't like cancelling account... maybe its for the member count but that seems a bit daft??

I know it's only a forum but if you go to AV forums amongst others, they have a clause saying that they now own the copyright of your posts.

and thanks Holly ;-)
#5
the value of a post on here is nil in the scheme of things, it would be very hard to enforce copyright as intellectual property must have an industrial, commercial or artistic value
#6
it's all based on opinions. One mans junk is another mans treasure.

From AV forum terms.

Content Copyright

By registering with the AV Forums you consent that all the content you create on the AV Forums is free of copyright at the point of submission to the AV Forums and becomes property of the AV Forums upon submission to the AV Forums.
#7
In the much loved MSE...

7. Your content

7.1 Just so that you know, you own any copyright in the text that you post to our chat forums. However, when you post text, you expressly grant us a perpetual, unlimited free license to republish that text on our site and to redistribute/make available and/or sell that text in print or electronic form anywhere in the world as part of an edited compilation or otherwise.
[mod]#8
Why do you want all your posts deleted? If you wanted to leave would it not be easier just to stop using the site..........all your posts are too people is just a username and you could be anyone from Adam on the street.
#9
Syzable
Why do you want all your posts deleted? If you wanted to leave would it not be easier just to stop using the site..........all your posts are too people is just a username and you could be anyone from Adam on the street.



That has nothing to do with you. This post isn't about me, I just added that in the hope it may wake someone up a bit. I know Admin has been on since this was posted.

My reason is personal. For some, not posting anymore would be fine but I prefer to tie things up and think it's shocking that I can not have my account removed. When I first asked to have it removed it was just to tie up loose ends but now it's a bit more than that. It's about how shockingly this site is run.

With the copyright thing I was just highlighting an issue
[mod]#10
LadyMadonna;2739996
That has nothing to do with you.


You are making comments on a public forum........i can make a comment if i wish.

If you are not inviting comments i suggest you carry out your issues in private with Admin and not try to air it all in public. :thumbsup:
#11
Yeah a public forum regarding issues with the site. Are you an official in disguise? If I wanted to throw a public party I'd have put it in misc.

If you want to stop using your bank, you don't just stop putting money in. If you want to leave your video store, you don't just stop hiring video's.

I know some may do things that way, Just I prefer not to and would much rather have the option to close my account if I wanted to.
[mod]#12
LadyMadonna;2740125
Yeah a public forum regarding issues with the site. Are you an official in disguise?


Everyone is entitled to an opinion on all forums of the site..........feedback is here to actually encourage that.

Maybe he isn't replying due to your very poor atitude and doesn't intend to. :thumbsup:
#13
I'm well aware of that, well done! The fact that you cant express your opinions on here though is one of the main reasons I'm wanting away.

The part I said was none of your business was not an opinion. It wasa question. You asked why I didn't stop posting.

Nice to know you can now speak for the admin too. :)

Shall I take that as my answer then? My account isn't deleted because of my atitude ?LOL
[mod]#14
I love it when people just try to bring attention to themselves when leaving. If you really wanted to leave you'd just go.
#15
LOL yeah, cos thats what I'm trying to do isn't it.

Damn, wish I'd thought of that before emailing him twice already though.
suspended#16
Yes it is subjective to whether posts on a forum should be subjected to copyright but effectively, I could bring a case against someone on here for quoting me.

Unlikely to happen I know but still...


I find this very interesting - do care to explain how this would work?

Aren't there two issues - copyright and you closing your account?
#17
jonnyq


I find this very interesting - do care to explain how this would work?

No, go look it up yourself

Aren't there two issues - copyright and you closing your account?


yes
suspended#18
i'm not a lawyer and don't understand copyright law and legal jargon and you gave the impression you knew what you were talking about

also, it would be good for everyone if you could explain - maybe we could learn something

if there are two issues - why complicate matters by conflating them?
#19
I can't understand what the big deal is about having my account removed so I simply looked into terms and conditions and noted that there wasn't one regarding copyright which surprised me. The two thing didn't have to be in the same post but one brought me to the other.

The issue isn't complicated at all. Just some people seem to want to make it look like it is.
suspended 1 Like #20
why would anyone object to your account being removed? I'm sure admin or the mods will help you

wouldn't it be preferable to keep this a private matter? - this is a public forum after all

maybe if you can shed light on what you mean then it would be less complicated - i don't understand, you still having explained how you could sue

so is this thread about copyright or you closing your account?
#21
i can understand wanting to tie up loose ends..i have also signed up to things in the past and wanted a complete 'clean up' of my details if you like. For my own peace of mind i guess. But not every site seems to allow this. I often try and check now.

I know nothing about law and copyright either, however as this is an open forum with open 'chit chat' i dont think it can be taken as breach of copyright laws, its just like two people having a conversation generally..no?
Isnt anything that could be seen as promotion or bad for companies controlled and deleted by mods? Im sure a while back something happened to do with this..and it was controlled. (using that controlled word loosely)..

Anyway im wittering.
#22
I didn't see the part about questioning the copyright, sorry.

I am obviously not a lawyer either but learnt about it while studying professional issues.

As was mentioned earlier, the text would have to have some merit to it but there is no exact definition of merit so it is subjective.

If I were to write a post on my thoughts on the universe then in my eyes this could be seen as artistic. If someone was to quote what I had said without my permission this would be in breach of copyright.

There are rules around in, not all that I know of the top of my head but there are thing like you can copy 5 sentences or so without needin permission.

ike I said before though, don't really want to go into it all as it gets long winded and the information is readily available online.
#23
ok, i get what you are saying..

Hopefully a mod will help and sort all this out. I'm sure they have noticed the thread.
#24
The copyright thing wasn't for my sake. Was just trying to let the powers that be see that they should maybe amend their T&C.

Then added in a remider about my account ;)
suspended#25
oh, i see - so you saying you were planning to leave was all part of the plan
#26
You've totally lost me now.

There was no "plan".
#27
jonnyq
oh, i see - so you saying you were planning to leave was all part of the plan

no i think she wanted to leave anyway....just found the other things interesting.
suspended#28
so we have mentioned the following -

copyright and the value of posts (in general as well as hukd)
you wanting to stay / leave
closing an account and what happens
a possible change to the terms and conditions of hukd
you waiting for a reply from admin / mods

i appreciate there is some overlap but it may be better to focus on the copyright aspect (see how that is the thread title)

MissRoo
no i think she wanted to leave anyway....just found the other things interesting.


oh right

i think it would be best to sit tight and wait for admin / mods to answer your query
#29
Like I said it was the copyright aspect I was posting about but added the reason I was looking into it.

Other things were brought up because I answered questions from people who decided to jump in.

LOL, sit tight and wait. Good advice... think I'll try it. ;-)
suspended#30
LadyMadonna
Like I said it was the copyright aspect I was posting about but added the reason I was looking into it.

Other things were brought up because I answered questions from people who decided to jump in.


you would want your account deleted because you wanted to leave - and people are inevitably going to comment and ask questions - hence why it may have been better to discuss this with a mod or even a member via pm

and making a thread, you expect people to contribute and there have been some useful posts

it may have been better to just focus on the copyright aspect and the feedback section does not mean replies are exclusive to mods or certain members

be patient - i'm sure the mods will come after they have finished drinking their coffee / alcohol
#31
Okay, you don't seem to be getting this point. It has nothing to do with mods.... they don't have the power.

I have emailed the Admin twice, the first time being roughly 2.5 weeks ago and the second a week. I have heard nothing.

I posted about the rules as we, as users are forever getting them thrust upon us yet there is nothing that states in the rules that you are "held captive" on their site once you sign up.

I posted here purely for Admin to see, in the hope that he wouldn't be so ignorant in public but being the polite, curtious person that I am :-D, I reply to those who question me.

Anything else?
suspended#32
the mods can advise or provide you with information and pass on the message to admin

okay, we are all held captive - so that is the reason why nobody can leave and this is a thread to get the attention of admin - i'm sure he will be glad that you saved him from looking ignorant

if you'll excuse me now, i have other matters to attend to - i put on my robe and wizard hat
#33
This site could be great if it was just as you say.


Enjoy your night of wizardry. :-D
[helper]#34
The question about copyright is a valid one. Anything we "write" on here is by default ours for copyright purposes unless we have signed away those rights as part of the membership conditions. As LadyM indicates, quoting is allowed to a certain extent, as long as the quoted remarks are not altered.

If there isn't a clause on the terms and conditions then I suggest admin add a copyright clause to them. Not sure how he will tackle existing members as presumably we should also have to confirm that we waive copyright.....
banned#35
dont you have to claim copyright
#36
No, it's automatic.
banned#37
LadyMadonna
No, it's automatic.


oh is it, i thought you have to get it verified as being your own work
#38
Welcome to the hotel California :lol:
#39
sassie
oh is it, i thought you have to get it verified as being your own work


maybe you're thinking of a time when someone had to prove they own the copyright?
banned#40
LadyMadonna
maybe you're thinking of a time when someone had to prove they own the copyright?


maybe i have lost the plot, about as viable as me thinking of a time when someone had to prove copyright:w00t:

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