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banned 1 Like #1
it seems one week, althought not quite sure how this has happened, many have listed on ebay to buy it through there

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/161838/wanted-lost-season-1-and-2/?p=1779350#post1779350
banned#2
Oh right ok, thanks have added rep :) will offer it again then
#3
juliet_bravo
You can't solicite an ebay sale through HUKDs, due to previous offences, banning csamual for a week.
That isn't what the rules state. The rules state:
(3) All sales must be listed and completed fully on the HUKD FS/FT forum. NO eBay, auction, classified or external links to an item listed elsewhere. You must not have the same item for sale or trade elsewhere online whilst listed here.
There were no external links given and it was a wanted thread (not a sale)... To ban for a week seems harsh.
#4
Got to agree... Look like csamual was simply looking for some protection and asked for the item to be listed on ebay - I didn't know that was against the rules either...
#5
Flodd
Got to agree... Look like csamual was simply looking for some protection and asked for the item to be listed on ebay - I didn't know that was against the rules either...


I think JB has made a mistake here. I remember Admin suggesting that exact method of completing a sale(via Ebay).
1 Like #6
dinosteveus
Can I ask about this please:-
[COLOR=#0000ff](1) All sales must be listed and completed fully on the HUKD FS/FT forum[/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]If the seller has an ebay account and a sale has been agreed, can it be put on ebay on a BIN, if collection is not an option?[/COLOR]
This would offer more protection than Paypal alone.


Admin
I guess that would be up to the buyer to request as part of the fulfillment arrangement. If a seller did that then I think it becomes a little more suspect...

One of the main purposes of the rule is to prevent someone listing, another member saying I'll take it and then the seller putting things off until the eBay auction is over or a situation where the trade being listed elsewhere gets in the way of the deal being made here.

Edit: Thinking about it some more, I think it hinges on whether listing is part of the fulfillment process to the deal made on here, because in that case it's not really different than using PayPal or whatever (obviously that part of the deal can't be done through HUKD). If a seller was listing BIN's on here, or listing sales that were currently listed on eBay though that would be taken off.
[admin]#7
Hi Guys, I've made a mistake sorry- I'm lifting his ban now
#8
I think I need my eye-sight testing? :?
[admin] 1 Like #9
No, you don't thesaint :) We were discussing it-
I got myself confused due to the rule in Code of Conduct-

* Self promotion of businesses and anyone involved with them, auction sites, personal sales elsewhere online, links to personal websites, requests for referrals, referral links, third party affiliate links and advertising for personal gain is spam

And the only reason the ban was for a week was because it wasn't his first "offence" :)
banned#10
so is my bros ban lifted
#11
Fair play, mistake admitted - situation sorted!

Kudos
[admin]#12
vVvGaming
so is my bros ban lifted


Yeup :thumbsup:
banned#13
Well done, done the right thing - thanks :)
banned#14
might be nice to remove-or add to your comments and unlock the said thread
[admin]#15
sassie
might be nice to remove-or add to your comments and unlock the said thread


I did :) Sorry, this is the first chance I've had to check back on this thread.
banned#16
juliet_bravo
I did :) Sorry, this is the first chance I've had to check back on this thread.


you mean, i have - lol
#17
thanks guys for speaking up :):):):):) i came back from work didnt know what was happening lol
banned#18
and quess what they banned him again


this site is a joke
#19
vVvGaming;1782166
and quess what they banned him again


this site is a joke


It's not a joke to ask people to abide by the rules. Members who submit an offer and subsequently cannot fulfill it will be banned from trading.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/161378/fs-ps3-games/

Was reported as he pulled out of buying an agreed deal.
banned#20
what just like how people have done to him mods came on saying sellers are aloud to change ther mind so YES it is a joke.o thanks for deleting my threads about this and 1 more thing why do my bro and i have to have 1 account we dont live with each other :/
#21
vVvGaming;1782552
what just like how people have done to him mods came on saying sellers are aloud to change ther mind so YES it is a joke.o thanks for deleting my threads about this and 1 more thing why do my bro and i have to have 1 account we dont live with each other :/


You've lost me.

Sellers are not allowed to change their minds. If offer and acceptance are made in the thread, it is a binding contract between the 2 parties and according to forum rules, should be carried out.

As for deleting your threads... do we really need 4 threads on this very same topic?
#22
[SIZE=3]FULFILLING YOUR TRADE OBLIGATIONS [/SIZE]

(11) Offer and acceptance of trade or sale must be posted in relevant thread. You must NOT deal by PM only.

(12) Once an offer has been made and accepted the trade should be considered final. Sellers who accept an offer and subsequently accept a higher offer from another member may be banned from trading. On the flip side members who submit an offer and subsequently cannot fulfill it due to lack of funds will be banned from trading.

(13) Goods remain the responsibility of the seller until the buyer takes possession and affirms they are okay. For this reason be honest in your descriptions and include original photos so the buyer knows what they are getting! Also, use a form of insured and signed for delivery to ensure any shipping/delivery mishaps will be covered.


If the member did not fulifill after accepting they deserve the ban and should have read the rules beforehand. Simple.
banned#23
i only had them up coz every time u lot deleted them like i said this is a joke banned for changing his mind lol
banned#24
like iv said b4 sort out the scammers
banned#25
emasu


(12) Once an offer has been made and accepted the trade should be considered final. Sellers who accept an offer and subsequently accept a higher offer from another member may be banned from trading. On the flip side members who submit an offer and subsequently cannot fulfill it due to lack of funds will be banned from trading.


discretion - lol

there are loads of peopel who do this, both sellers and buyers, i suppose it just depends which mod picks up the report and what discretion they use
#26
vVvGaming;1782620
like iv said b4 sort out the scammers


If you are concerned that any posts may be "scammers", please use the report button on them. They will be checked out and dealt with accordingly.
#27
sassie;1782622
discretion - lol


most definately :thumbsup:
banned#28
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/161407/pro-evo-6-pgr3-xbox-360-remote-and-/
so if they are not allowed to change ther mind why have they done it look at page 2 .and plz dont delete this thread :)
banned#29
vVvGaming
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/161407/pro-evo-6-pgr3-xbox-360-remote-and-/
so if they are not allowed to change ther mind why have they done it look at page 2 .and plz dont delete this thread :)


discretion;-)
#30
emmajk42
You've lost me.

Sellers are not allowed to change their minds. If offer and acceptance are made in the thread, it is a binding contract between the 2 parties and according to forum rules, should be carried out.



Could you ask one of the team to look at this thread for me.
I reported it this morning, and have not had an answer yet.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/162301/ds-ninjapass-evolution-card-1gb-san/
#31
vVvGaming
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/161407/pro-evo-6-pgr3-xbox-360-remote-and-/
so if they are not allowed to change ther mind why have they done it look at page 2 .and plz dont delete this thread :)


ive been banned for pulling out of a deal before too....and am a little annoyed to see that SOME people are ALLOWED to do it????
banned#32
yeah seems to me that if ur in with the crew then ur fine even mods say you can stop a sale lol its pathetic !!!!
#33
vVvGaming
yeah seems to me that if ur in with the crew then ur fine even mods say you can stop a sale lol its pathetic !!!!


I think(Forgive me if i'm wrong) that roadie has been banned on more than one occassion, so I don't think that it is a case of being "In with the crew".

I do share the frustration with the decision in that thread though. :)
banned#34
i agree it just seems that if its the rule every one who have broke it should be banned to!! not helped to do it .then ban my bro for it ...he was half way through 2 sales one for a lost boxset and one for cod 4 which he has paid for hes still waiting on a game from a seller that aint turned up yet cant even ask where it is. he uses this site every day same as everyone else as soon as ive posted that link ive had no replys from mods ?????and when i try to make a thread it gets wiped within 2 mins if they were right in what they did why delete the thread asking why ???? oh and while he was being told why he got banned the first time in the day they said me and him are not aloud to have a seperate account because were brothers that we have to use one or another who are they to tell use were not aloud on here ????????????we dont even live together [B]think its a crime to know people out side of hukd if you both use this[B] mods get ur fingers out and sort the scammers and cons who have 100 diff names and only have one day bans lol its called prioritys .
#35
vVvGaming - you're really pushing it here. You and csamual are claiming to be brothers. You are both accessing from the same PC on numerous occasions. You are also claiming to be using the same eBay ID. This is not normal forum behaviour.

which he has paid for hes still waiting on a game from a seller that aint turned up yet cant even ask where it is.


Why can't he phone them? Or did he not follow the for sale forum guidelines and get the sellers details?

If csamual has a problem with his ban - he is welcome to use the contact us link to email admin, as is normal procedure.
banned#36
emmajk42
vVvGaming - you're really pushing it here. You and csamual are claiming to be brothers. You are both accessing from the same PC on numerous occasions. You are also claiming to be using the same eBay ID. This is not normal forum behaviour.


Why can't he phone them? Or did he not follow the for sale forum guidelines and get the sellers details?

If csamual has a problem with his ban - he is welcome to use the contact us link to email admin, as is normal procedure.


because i visit my bro hes [SIZE="5"]25[/SIZE] im [SIZE="5"]16 [/SIZE]he got a house i live with my parents i dont have a paypal account he does so im not aloud to be on my account on another computer he allows me to use his paypal account ??????????????????? tell me whats not normal ????? pushing the right buttons for a ban cause ive got a individual opinion lol
#37
vVvGaming;1787311
because i visit my bro hes [SIZE=5]25[/SIZE] im [SIZE=5]16 [/SIZE]he got a house i live with my parents i dont have a paypal account he does so im not aloud to be on my account on another computer he allows me to use his paypal account ??????????????????? tell me whats not normal ????? pushing the right buttons for a ban cause ive got a individual opinion lol


No, you're pushing the right buttons for a ban due to possible multiple IDs and a breach of the forum code of conduct.
banned#38
lol ok then lol why would i do that ????????? i wouldnt mension he was my bro would i ???? i would scam people wouldnt i ??? its a crime to have a brother on here or just dont like what im saying maybe ????
#39
vVvGaming
lol ok then lol why would i do that ????????? i wouldnt mension he was my bro would i ???? i would scam people wouldnt i ??? its a crime to have a brother on here or just dont like what im saying maybe ????


vVvGaming, I don't think that you are being constuctive, why not ask your brother to use the 'contact us' button, but he broke the rules and got banned, I don't see what else can be done.

You are only going to end up getting banned yourself following the line and attitude that you are presently doing.
banned#40
because weve been told to use one account ? by juliet bravo so what do you surgest saint ??

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