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#1
I can see it from Durham mate, must be the smog in Boro clouding your eyesight. ;)
#2
Apologies Bazr, my fault, I forgot to PM.

Please check them now :)
#3
Thanks for the PM emma.
I was not aware that any posts on this shop were not allowed.The shop in question is still listed in the merchant filter on the front page!.Is there somewhere on this site that tells us which shops/organisations are banned from the site and if not,i think there should be something to a)warn us. b)stop us wasting our time and effort.
Are shops that have been banned,banned for evermore or is there a way back for them,as i feel that their might be some good deals out there,that our members may never see.
#4
beerman1
I can see it from Durham mate, must be the smog in Boro clouding your eyesight. ;)

Smoggies rule.:p
#5
bazr
Thanks for the PM emma.
I was not aware that any posts on this shop were not allowed.Is there somewhere on this site that tells us which shops/organisations are banned from the site and if not,i think there should be something to a)warn us. b)stop us wasting our time and effort.
Are shops that have been banned,banned for evermore or is there a way back for them,as i feel that their might be some good deals out there,that our members may never see.

Not sure if you saw the post that discussed (if that's the word!!) the issue of this online retailer...the owner has been spamming HUKD and raised a post to seek a explanation as to why his posts were not allowed....it soon became apparent that the owner of the company had his own forum where HUKD were being bad mouthed and accused of a bias towards another online retailer selling blank media (SVP)..not sure if emma directed you to the post for information.

Anyway since the post there have been 2 hot deals for this company and both have disappeared...even though as you observed the deals were quite good.....I expect members on the other forum will join HUKD to post deals for this company...so the saga may continue....up the boro.
#6
currychops
Not sure if you saw the post that discussed (if that's the word!!) the issue of this online retailer...the owner has been spamming HUKD and raised a post to seek a explanation as to why his posts were not allowed....it soon became apparent that the owner of the company had his own forum where HUKD were being bad mouthed and accused of a bias towards another online retailer selling blank media (SVP)..not sure if emma directed you to the post for information.

Anyway since the post there have been 2 hot deals for this company and both have disappeared...even though as you observed the deals were quite good.....I expect members on the other forum will join HUKD to post deals for this company...so the saga may continue....up the boro.

Thanks for the input currychops.Yes emma did direct me to the thread and that is the only indication that they have been banned.How can anybody know without reading every thread that shops have been banned.Why are they still in the merchants list.:?
#7
They would still be in there if someone submits a deal for them, they just add it again to the list. However, that one is now deleted.
#8
currychops
Not sure if you saw the post that discussed (if that's the word!!) the issue of this online retailer...the owner has been spamming HUKD and raised a post to seek a explanation as to why his posts were not allowed....it soon became apparent that the owner of the company had his own forum where HUKD were being bad mouthed and accused of a bias towards another online retailer selling blank media (SVP)..not sure if emma directed you to the post for information.

Anyway since the post there have been 2 hot deals for this company and both have disappeared...even though as you observed the deals were quite good.....I expect members on the other forum will join HUKD to post deals for this company...so the saga may continue....up the boro.


I made ONE incorrect post last year. That was it and was immediatley corrected by emma and I thought it was settled there and then. I even contacted admin directly a number of times to arrange an affiliation where all HUKD members got % off on every order. I was never once given a single response. The fact is I can beat SVP prices all day every day and thats what i'm setting out to do - to be the best value media retailer in the UK. I've already acheived as much in the USA where I live.

I really dont count one post by me - and I never disguised who I was - as "repeated spam"

and the only ppl bad mouthed on digital-forums.com were the idiots who were trash talking - not HUKD as a site - however you can't possibly think for one second that the possibility of bias isn't in fact just that - a possibility. If I had anything to hide you really think i'd have that particualr post in a public part of the forum? Think about it - it's discussed like its some secret thats been found when I pointed people there in the first place.

forgive me for raising valid questions when i've never been given a valid explanation. Truly this has been rediculous.

Regarding people from my forum posting deals here - I hev over 55,000 members. Its one of the UK's largest communities A lot of them are members here and everywhere else like MSE - am I supposed to stop them posting out offers that I post on my ownforum? of course not.

I have another company on this site that does well - ill just add my deals there in future. My business services many HUKD members and they know where else to look for the offers we give. Look out for 2GB pen drives at £8.99 - thats one example that many here are deprived off due to us been singled out for no real reason.

Final note: i'd like to add that I signed up for another account under a different name as I gave some customer support to some of your members and answered a few questions - I figured it would make my identification easier. Of course its not required now - no doubt this thread will get jumped on by the usual suspects. Funny how honest traders get moderated but a handful of trouble makers are left to run riot.
#9
ShopNeo
I made ONE incorrect post last year. That was it and was immediatley corrected by emma and I thought it was settled there and then. I even contacted admin directly a number of times to arrange an affiliation where all HUKD members got % off on every order. I was never once given a single response. The fact is I can beat SVP prices all day every day and thats what i'm setting out to do - to be the best value media retailer in the UK. I've already acheived as much in the USA where I live.

I really dont count one post by me - and I never disguised who I was - as "repeated spam"

and the only ppl bad mouthed on digital-forums.com were the idiots who were trash talking - not HUKD as a site - however you can't possibly think for one second that the possibility of bias isn't in fact just that - a possibility.

forgive me for raising valid questions when i've never been given a valid explanation. Truly this has been rediculous.

I have another company on this site that does well - ill just add my deals there in future.


I thought this had already been discussed?
How did you know about this post/thread?
I went on your Forum and I didn't like what I saw, you have some nasty Members and you don't mind swearing, do you?
#10
ShopNeo
I made ONE incorrect post last year. That was it and was immediatley corrected by emma and I thought it was settled there and then. I even contacted admin directly a number of times to arrange an affiliation where all HUKD members got % off on every order. I was never once given a single response. The fact is I can beat SVP prices all day every day and thats what i'm setting out to do - to be the best value media retailer in the UK. I've already acheived as much in the USA where I live.

I really dont count one post by me - and I never disguised who I was - as "repeated spam"

and the only ppl bad mouthed on digital-forums.com were the idiots who were trash talking - not HUKD as a site - however you can't possibly think for one second that the possibility of bias isn't in fact just that - a possibility. If I had anything to hide you really think i'd have that particualr post in a public part of the forum? Think about it - it's discussed like its some secret thats been found when I pointed people there in the first place.

forgive me for raising valid questions when i've never been given a valid explanation. Truly this has been rediculous.

I have another company on this site that does well - ill just add my deals there in future. My business services many HUKD members and they know where else to look for the offers we give. Look out for 2GB pen drives at £8.99 ;)


Spam and you'll get banned, which looks like a good idea.
#11
ShopNeo
I made ONE incorrect post last year. That was it and was immediatley corrected by emma and I thought it was settled there and then. I even contacted admin directly a number of times to arrange an affiliation where all HUKD members got % off on every order. I was never once given a single response. The fact is I can beat SVP prices all day every day and thats what i'm setting out to do - to be the best value media retailer in the UK. I've already acheived as much in the USA where I live.

I really dont count one post by me - and I never disguised who I was - as "repeated spam"

and the only ppl bad mouthed on digital-forums.com were the idiots who were trash talking - not HUKD as a site - however you can't possibly think for one second that the possibility of bias isn't in fact just that - a possibility. If I had anything to hide you really think i'd have that particualr post in a public part of the forum? Think about it - it's discussed like its some secret thats been found when I pointed people there in the first place.

forgive me for raising valid questions when i've never been given a valid explanation. Truly this has been rediculous.

I have another company on this site that does well - ill just add my deals there in future. My business services many HUKD members and they know where else to look for the offers we give. Look out for 2GB pen drives at £8.99 - thats one example that many here are deprived off due to us been singled out for no real reason.

Final note: i'd like to add that I signed up for another account under a different name as I gave some customer support to some of your members and answered a few questions - I figured it would make my identification easier. Of course its not required now - no doubt this thread will get jumped on by the usual suspects. Funny how honest traders get moderated but a handful of trouble makers are left to run riot.


You like editing your posts, don't you? :giggle:
#12
im typing as i eat my breakfast :)

one post isnt spam - you know it and i know it. as an established ebay trader I thought you'd have a clue :whistling:

PS that one menmber who talked trash - you will notice I banned him. I dont accept people like that. And nasty members ? you can talk lol :giggle:

post edited ;)
#13
ShopNeo
im typing as i eat my breakfast :)

one post isnt spam - you know it and i know it. as an established ebay trader I thought you'd have a clue.

PS that one menmber who talked trash - you will notice I banned him. I dont accept people like that. And nasty members ? [COLOR=red]you can talk[/COLOR] lol

post edited ;)


I didn't have a problem with you until that 'other' thread and after reading your Forum. I'm pleased you banned that person but I've not been back to it.

You only know my Dinosteveus ebay ID, I'm not daft enough to jeopardise my living by passing on my main selling ID, to anyone.
IMO, there is more to this than we know, but your grief is with Admin, there is nothing we can do, it is HIS site and he makes the rules.

What do you mean by this:-
[COLOR=#ff0000]you can talk[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR]
#14
I have no axe to grind with you ShopNeo as I'm all in favour of the forgive and forget lifestyle...I'm sure there have been others that have spammed on HUKD and escaped a ban so am rather confused why you have caused such offence...and I'm not supporting anyone here..just expressing a view on what I know..which is probably not the whole story.

I, in common with most members, are interested in good deals on blank media and memory ..particularly when there is a free postage offer as I do not purchase in bulk.

All I can suggest ShopNeo is that you take up your issue in private with the Admin and maybe you can reach an amicable resolution...I do not enjoy some of the friction and bad feeling that is starting to appear on HUKD and just ask that we adopt a polite and mannered style to contributions on the forum....if I want rants I can find it elsewhere on the net.
#15
Removed posts - as this is not the place to discuss this issue - which has already been closed.
#16
emmajk42
Removed posts - as this is not the place to discuss this issue - which has already been closed.

OK. :p
I thought Ray would, because he's been watching this thread.:whistling:
#17
Well so be it...but how come some of the more"full blown" disputes on here continue without deletion...I know you mods are busy but please lets have consistency on the forums.
#18
A misunderstanding, it is open for now.
#19
Whoa guys,i didn't want to start another war.I simply wanted a few answers to the questions i raised in post 4
currychops
I have no axe to grind with you ShopNeo as I'm all in favour of the forgive and forget lifestyle...I'm sure there have been others that have spammed on HUKD and escaped a ban so am rather confused why you have caused such offence...and I'm not supporting anyone here..just expressing a view on what I know..which is probably not the whole story.

I, in common with most members, are interested in good deals on blank media and memory ..particularly when there is a free postage offer as I do not purchase in bulk.

All I can suggest ShopNeo is that you take up your issue in private with the Admin and maybe you can reach an amicable resolution...I do not enjoy some of the friction and bad feeling that is starting to appear on HUKD and just ask that we adopt a polite and mannered style to contributions on the forum....if I want rants I can find it elsewhere on the net.

Fully agree with everything you say there currychops,especially the forgive and forget mentality.I fimly believe that everybody should get a second chance and that is the attitude i try to uphold.I am sure that a polite and humble PM from ShopNeo to Admin could resolve this dispute,or am i wrong and there is no way back for them?.
#20
bazr
Whoa guys,i didn't want to start another war.I simply wanted a few answers to the questions i raised in post 4

Fully agree with everything you say there currychops,especially the forgive and forget mentality.I fimly believe that everybody should get a second chance and that is the attitude i try to uphold.I am sure that a polite and humble PM from ShopNeo to Admin could resolve this dispute,or am i wrong and there is no way back for them?.

I fully agree. :thumbsup:
I think it may be too late for PM's, which is a shame.
The 'HUKD Members' lose out on any deals, if they don't know about them. After all this site is for 'Deals' that can us save money.

I think there is more to this than we know about.
[admin]#21
I am sure that a polite and humble PM from ShopNeo to Admin could resolve this dispute,or am i wrong and there is no way back for them?.


That's all I ever ask from any merchant. When we catch a merchant self-promoting we contact them, explain the rules and ask them to play fair just like all other merchants.

I am not going to go into specifics on the shopneo issue. If you want to see a fraction of the background go and read the thread which had to be closed due to the inability of shopneo to carry out an honest and mature dialogue.

At this point my patience and credulity have been stretched so thin that no there is no way back.

And that's all I've got to say on the subject. We're not going to be bullied, harassed, or paid off into changing our position towards merchant spam.
#22
OK, enough said.
[admin]#23
The 'HUKD Members' lose out on any deals, if they don't know about them. After all this site is for 'Deals' that can us save money.


Absolutely. The problem with an open board is that merchants look at it and think ooo free advertising. The whole point of this board is that it is *real* recommendations and deals as found by members. As soon as merchants start putting in their own offers, or getting other people affiliated with them to submit offers the point of the board falls apart. We might as well just read the ads in the Sunday paper then. So because of this we need to be very vigilant on making sure merchants do not abuse the boards or try to sneakily abuse the system. If we have a situation where a merchant has been trying to work the system even after being warned that means we cannot trust any deals from that merchant any more. So (a) we can't trust anything from that merchant as honest submission and (b) we can't trust that merchant as an honest organisation. I don't want either of those on the boards.
#24
I understand what you are saying.
#25
I think we know where we stand regarding ShopNeo now,but nobody has answered my question regarding members not knowing about any banned shops/organisations.Should there be a Hall of Shame or something for members to refer to,so as to not to waste evrybodies time and inadvertantly submit deals for banned parties.:)
[admin]#26
I don't think there is a particular list of commonly known merchants bazr. I think every merchant we have contacted and asked to respect the forum and use the merchant submission procedure has done so. Almost all the merchants we notify about self-promo are white label/slap up an e-commerce site out of box merchants that no-one has ever seen before or sees again.
#27
Admin
I don't think there is a particular list of commonly known merchants bazr. I think every merchant we have contacted and asked to respect the forum and use the merchant submission procedure has done so. Almost all the merchants we notify about self-promo are white label/slap up an e-commerce site out of box merchants that no-one has ever seen before or sees again.

Oh,OK,thanks for that.:)
#28
Yes I accept what you are saying Admin...as I said earlier I didn't know the whole story...anyway should we not be aware of the other outlet referred to by ShopNeo?...the one he claims to own and features in some of the Hot Deals..or have I misread something or being duped???
#29
well, i found this thread searching for the one thats has been deleted. im not entirely sure what all the fuss is about, i didnt fully read this one, but i just wanted to say i received my blank dvds i ordered on thursday today.
most likely i will use again as the discs are working perfectly :)

oh, i hope im not stepping on toes here
#30
shanecr
well, i found this thread searching for the one thats has been deleted. im not entirely sure what all the fuss is about, i didnt fully read this one, but i just wanted to say i received my blank dvds i ordered on thursday today.
most likely i will use again as the discs are working perfectly :)

oh, i hope im not stepping on toes here


certainly not shanecr...the media looked a good deal so cannot blame you for taking the plunge.
#31
I have this morning received a letter from peter jackson @ shopneo warning me about illegal transactions reported from people who has used their site.

I'm worried now and it sounds like someone who works their must have been doing some illegal activity with the card details.
banned#32
Peter Jackson? isnt he that king kong guy? lol
[mod]#33
[SIZE=1]I am writing this warning as a member of HUKD community and not as a moderator.

[/SIZE]Glint and anyone else who has used Shopneo to purchase goods using any form of electronic payment please be aware of this.


Quite a few customers have had their cards used fraudulently at other internet gambling sites since buyng from this shop, some to the tune of up to £800 so may I suggest that if you have purchased anything at all and given your card details to them you now go to your issuer and have the card account closed and a new card and number issued.

Peter Jackson suggested the payment details were compromised for a short time but I have heard from someone who bought in November and has just had 2 fraudulent transactions attempted so it looks more like the complete customer listing details have become available to a 3rd party.
#34
I got the letter this morning, the same day as my credit card bill - and, sure enough, there's a transaction to Aquapay for $250, credited a few days later - and a lower exchange rate!

I'll have a chat with my card issuer. I don't know how the details have been passed on, and I'm very worried about this - but at least shopneo have had the decency to let me know. I strongly suggest everyone else checks their credit card statements for brandycasino.com 18003087817 END EDIT, 32red.com or Aquapay.
#35
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=384838

Check this thread on MSE. It appears loads of people have had money stolen from their CCs. :-(
#37
I also had a $250 charge on my credit card after using neo for the first time to buy DVD but also must admit received a letter warning me. fraud Department of credit card company aware of the situation
#38
what a ****, I thought I was fine because I hadn't been hit then since friday £700.
#39
glint
what a ****, I thought I was fine because I hadn't been hit then since friday £700.


No way. I hope to goodness you get that all back.
[mod]#40
glint
what a ****, I thought I was fine because I hadn't been hit then since friday £700.


may I suggest that if you have purchased anything at all and given your card details to them you now go to your issuer and have the card account closed and a new card and number issued.


A bit late for you but I did warn that this may happen in my post on 24th Feb.

[COLOR=Red]Again, anyone who has bought from Shopneo should have the card they used cancelled right away as its at risk right up till the expire date.[/COLOR]

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