Do we need a new 'rule' in FS/FT or maybe a 'Bugfix'?? - HotUKDeals
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#1
yea i suppose thats very true, like there should be a rule that you cant edit the original thread, however you can post replies to your own advert so you can add information that way, or as in the same with expired deals you could expire the post so its marked as sold but still shows all the information in the case that a problem occurs.
#2
I think in theory you're right Shengis. It's certainly open to abuse. Trouble is in practice it throws up a few problems itself by not being able to edit.

There are genuine reasons though for wanting to edit the original post, I think I for one have actually done that when I was selling 3 phones on one thread and wanted to delete one that had sold.

Also I'm not too sure the mod's are going to take too kindly to people keep coming to them asking them to alter their posts because they've made a mistake etc.

As with anything in the FS/FT forum I don't think there is an easy answer. I actually don't like the forum as it stands now and tend not to use it so much. I think it's more open to abuse and scammers now than ever before.
Shame really as I need to sell some stuff !!
#3
I suppose it would be pretty difficult if you had say 15 items for sale in a single thread. If you can't update the sold items in the OP then you'll just get people say 'i'll take xxxx for £xx'. The number of people that just don't read threads and jump in on the last page..... Hmmm. Don't know what the answer to that one is. I think 'something' needs to be done though as the current setup is too open to abuse. Maybe adding the condition to the rules IS the answer, anybody breaking it gets an instant trading ban.

By the way, i'm not attacking the person who's posts I picked up on. They were just so 'obvious' as to be offensive to the eye :lol:
#4
Yeah, I never liked the way anyone can edit their posts.
banned#5
I think that member is just taking advantage of what is open to them, complete **** take, but hey why not, that board was bad before and now even worse, that last link for that thread has 10 replies and 8 of those are the op's. :roll:
#6
So. Considering what has actually transpired, anybody else want to make suggestions/comments?
#7
Shengis
So. Considering what has actually transpired, anybody else want to make suggestions/comments?


You know Shengis no matter what is done on the FS/FT forum there will still be scammers operating there.
You could put up a dirty great neon banner saying "all ye who enter this place may be scammed" and people will still part with their money without following guidelines or protecting themselves.
I pity those Mods that venture onto the forum because invariably it must be like banging your head against a brick wall :x

Greed, laziness and fear of losing that great deal to another all come into play and for so many that is a recipe for disaster. You only have to read some of the threads where people get scammed and it's virtually always the same format, just variations on a theme.

What can be done ? Suggestions/comments ?
It's all be written before and for those that have cared in the past it has been extremely frustrating to see things remain the same or indeed get worse.
And again if you try and help the people that do get scammed invariably there are no thanks and no action from them.
There was one incident which actually could be a carbon copy of another that's just happened where some members (billy, steve, et al) put in an amazing amount of time and hard work to trace and identify the scammer/s. Names, addresses, phone numbers were all found out and published for those that had been scammed to take action.
And what happened ? Sweet F.A.

Bottom line in all this is that it's Admin's site and his rules.
Personally I think the FS/FT forum is a thorn in the side of HUKD and if it hasn't already it will ultimately bring this site into disrepute and I don't write that with smug satisfaction, just sadness. :-(
#8
Yeah, I know what you're saying. No harm in trying though eh ;-)

I pity those Mods that venture onto the forum because invariably it must be like banging your head against a brick wall


That does seem to be a major problem. In the past Millarcat was a regular in there but lately it seems to have tailed off a bit and when Edi asked for a pic the other day it went a bit mental. What it really needs is a full time mod and stricter rules. No picture within an hour, post is gone etc

Like you say though mate, probably not going to happen. In Pauls position though i'd be worried in case somebody tried to take me to court for 'Joint and Several Liabilty'. Just by allowing something to be advertised you are part of that transaction. How it would go in court is anybodys guess but no doubt a case could be made for negligence on letting any tom, dick or harry post their scam items.

Not a nice idea I admit but maybe something Paul should consider/research regarding the FS/FT forum and tightening the rules to save trouble at some later date.
#9
Shengis


Like you say though mate, probably not going to happen. In Pauls position though i'd be worried in case somebody tried to take me to court for 'Joint and Several Liabilty'. Just by allowing something to be advertised you are part of that transaction. How it would go in court is anybodys guess but no doubt a case could be made for negligence on letting any tom, dick or harry post their scam items.


I don't think that this is the case:
Just by allowing something to be advertised you are part of that transaction.


I could give a dozen examples, but will give 1. Say I saw an advert on a bus for a company that goes bust with my money, was that bus company a part of the transaction?

Anyone foolish enough to waste their money going to court will be laughed out, otherwise there would be no advertising in local papers, ebay, autotrader, football shirts etc.
#10
thesaint
I don't think that this is the case:

I could give a dozen examples, but will give 1. Say I saw an advert on a bus for a company that goes bust with my money, was that bus company a part of the transaction?


If it could be proven that complaints had been made to the bus company in the past and they had taken no action then I would have to say yes. If it was just a one off then no. I understand what you're saying thesaint but each case is different. If we were in the good old US of A then it would be YES no matter what:lol:
#11
Shengis
If it could be proven that complaints had been made to the bus company in the past and they had taken no action then I would have to say yes. If it was just a one off then no. I understand what you're saying thesaint but each case is different. If we were in the good old US of A then it would be YES no matter what:lol:


Maybe if complaints were made about the same company, then the bus company may shoulder some of the blame. The bus company takes money for advertising, but I doubt they put any disclaimers next to their adverts. Iknow that this phrase is trotted out all the time, but "Caveat emptor".

As much as I love my American cousins, we don't want to go down that road. :)
#12
Yeah I agree. I just put forward the possibility as an article for discussion and maybe save the site some trouble in the future:thumbsup: Like they say, where america goes the UK follows and there does appear to be a lot of truth in that:-(

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