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#1
agree totally, same with spam.
the number of threads that exist (or are unexpired) for ages even after someone supplies the link to previous post is ridiculous.
#2
I did say two and a half years ago that raising the threshold to more than one person needing to expire a thread should've been reserved for a select few:

thesaint


By raising the threshold, this would mean I would have to bump these threads to ask them to be Expired, thus "Bumping" them. Some of them were a few weeks old, so this would have been unfair to the other deals on the forum.

Or send off 10 reports to the moderators. To get them to Expire them.

Maybe restrict this power to a select few. :)
#3
Can you go back to the old system of only one member needed to expire and move the button so that accidental expiring is much reduced?
Failing that is it possible to have the OP able to expire by a single click, if you want to hang on to the new multiple click in general?


Totally agree.

Any response Admin/Developement ?
banned#4
I never bother with expiring since the change as its pointless. I always contact a mod now to do it for me (when I can be bothered).

really needs to change back to 1 click or at least limit 1 click requirement for long term and / or full voting right members. Anyone caught abusing it then has this privilege withdrawn
#5
csiman
I never bother with expiring since the change as its pointless. I always contact a mod now to do it for me (when I can be bothered).really needs to change back to 1 click or at least limit 1 click requirement for long term and / or full voting right members. Anyone caught abusing it then has this privilege withdrawn

Perhaps the opening comment (thread description) should be marked with the individual vote(s) for Expiry (including the respective member name[s]) or, if just one vote is required, which member Expired the thread.

That way, members may be less inclined to 'Expire' threads without a valid reason as they would be identified for everybody else to see. In fact, if clicking 'Expire' maybe it should be mandatory to post a comment to explain the reason why.

For example, one of my "Feedback" threads has recently been marked as 'Expired'. The issue is still present & I have no idea who 'Expired' it, so I have had to ask for it to be re-activated again.

BFN,

fp.
banned#6
fanpages
csiman
I never bother with expiring since the change as its pointless. I always contact a mod now to do it for me (when I can be bothered).really needs to change back to 1 click or at least limit 1 click requirement for long term and / or full voting right members. Anyone caught abusing it then has this privilege withdrawn


Perhaps the opening comment (thread description) should be marked with the individual vote(s) for Expiry (including the respective member name[s]) or, if just one vote is required, which member Expired the thread.

That way, members may be less inclined to 'Expire' threads without a valid reason as they would be identified for everybody else to see. In fact, if clicking 'Expire' maybe it should be mandatory to post a comment to explain the reason why.

For example, one of my "Feedback" threads has recently been marked as 'Expired'. The issue is still present & I have no idea who 'Expired' it, so I have had to ask for it to be re-activated again.


The request to list users expiring and spamming deals (and vote lists) has been asked for for years and years. Admin doesn't seem to want to go down that route.
banned#7
loads of threads in feedback are now expired, can the mods say why seeing as most are still current
(ie bug reports that aren't fixed etc)
#8
colinsunderland
loads of threads in feedback are now expired, can the mods say why seeing as most are still current(ie bug reports that aren't fixed etc)

Perhaps a big virtual carpet is being laid to sweep the outstanding issues under so we can start again, again,... again.

...or changes have been made to the way in which the 'Expire' function is implemented.

Either way, I have asked for a few of my outstanding issues to be marked as 'Active' again.

BFN,

fp.
#9
The old system wasn't working, the new system isn't working.

I suggest changing it so that new deals still require the current multiple expiry votes, but older deals only require a single click to expire.

Not sure where the sliding scale should start, possibly have the cut off point be a week?
(i.e. threads up to a week old would require multiple expiry votes, over a week old would only require 1, etc.)
#10
Eldini
The old system wasn't working, the new system isn't working.

I suggest changing it so that new deals still require the current multiple expiry votes, but older deals only require a single click to expire.

Not sure where the sliding scale should start, possibly have the cut off point be a week?
(i.e. threads up to a week old would require multiple expiry votes, over a week old would only require 1, etc.)
time idea is a good one - seen plenty deals unexpired over a year old when searching.
think the current deals still needing the same number of votes is still duff though as those are the deals that most people see so its probably most important for those updated quickly.
perhaps reducing the number of votes needed to 2 if absolutely must have multiple votes to expire.
#11
brilly
Eldini
The old system wasn't working, the new system isn't working.

I suggest changing it so that new deals still require the current multiple expiry votes, but older deals only require a single click to expire.

Not sure where the sliding scale should start, possibly have the cut off point be a week?
(i.e. threads up to a week old would require multiple expiry votes, over a week old would only require 1, etc.)
time idea is a good one - seen plenty deals unexpired over a year old when searching.
think the current deals still needing the same number of votes is still duff though as those are the deals that most people see so its probably most important for those updated quickly.
perhaps reducing the number of votes needed to 2 if absolutely must have multiple votes to expire.


k, solution: (a few of these need to be used together imo)

1. have users newer than 6 months EITHER be unable to expire deals OR have their vote count for 0.3, or 0.5 of a whole expiry vote.
2. Newer threads require 2 clicks to expire, threads a week+ old require 1 click to expire *UNLESS* they're 300+ heat, then they require 2 clicks to expire.
3. suspend people who misuse the expiry button from using it again for a few months.
4. a one time blanket expiry of all deals older than 12 months, with a new database rule in place expiring deals as they reach the 12 month age mark. (would help with site organisation/search/etc. wrongly expired deals could easily be reported for unexpiry)


Think those would fix things maybe, and should be able to be easily implemented.

Edited By: Eldini on Feb 04, 2011 11:44
#12
To stop accidental expiry, surely an EXPIRED button with an added confirmation prompt "Are you sure? " - YES or NO buttons after would have sufficed.

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