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#1
been asked before and the answer is no i'm afraid.

the thing that really is needed is a temperature filter in the forum!
[mod]#2
I don't tend to venture into hot deals that often nowdays because there's too much to go through. I find that the front page puts the best deals on anyway so i look at that.
[admin]#3
I think there are two types of users - those that like trawling everything to dig out the best deals and those who want to just take away the best ones on offer. If you just want to see the best ones as voted by members then as Syzable says just use the front page. Also on the front page you can use the filters if you want to see everything new in a certain category.
#4
So why not split the Forum then?

Is this just pig headed ness!

You go onto other forums and there is a logical split as the forum grows.

There seems to be growth on HUKD as can bee seen over recent months with the post count but no logical growth of the forum itself.

pmcg
[admin]#5
I don't believe in splitting forums. While it may seem the HUKD forum is busy it is not very busy compared to many other forums.

If you want to split the forums use the front page and that is what it does there! So no pig-headed-ness - you have the option if you want.
#6
Admin
If you want to split the forums use the front page and that is what it does there!


All very well if this works.

Go to the front page youself and filter by "Travel", first deal you get is a Wheel Wrench from "Lidl" !

pmcg
[admin]#7
Well it's up to members to put things in the right category just like if you had multiple forums it is up to them to post in the right forum! I think a wheel wrench does have to do with travel though...
#8
haha - i can see how it is to do with travel, but i think travel is more meant as holidays?
1 Like #9
Why is the answer no? I would say the forum as it stands is not user friendly. It is not difficult in vBulletin to set sub boards. Admin you forget user type three (fall into this category). Busy with too little time to trawl through 6-10 pages of new deals a day yet hate to miss a good deal. I am fed up with the WIiiIiiIii excitement and most of the things that might be useful for me are not voted hot. I could do a search but I find that unless you are looking for something pretty specific it is not much help.

At the very least you could split them into Boys Junk (i.e. mobile phones, computers, screw drivers and wiiiiissss) and Really Good Stuff (i.e. makeup, children's clothes and shoes):p.
#10
Gaia


At the very least you could split them into Boys Junk (i.e. mobile phones, computers, screw drivers and wiiiiissss) and Really Good Stuff (i.e. makeup, children's clothes and shoes):p.


what do you mean " boys junk":?
#11
Gaia
Why is the answer no? I would say the forum as it stands is not user friendly. It is not difficult in vBulletin to set sub boards. Admin you forget user type three (fall into this category). Busy with too little time to trawl through 6-10 pages of new deals a day yet hate to miss a good deal. I am fed up with the WIiiIiiIii excitement and most of the things that might be useful for me are not voted hot. I could do a search but I find that unless you are looking for something pretty specific it is not much help.

At the very least you could split them into Boys Junk (i.e. mobile phones, computers, screw drivers and wiiiiissss) and Really Good Stuff (i.e. makeup, children's clothes and shoes):p.


Admin is saying that the front page does all this already.

To see all new posts simply click "filter" on the front page, without changing any of the defaults, and you see all new posts in chronological order since your last visit. You do not have to trawl through the forums.
#12
fox2020
what do you mean " boys junk":?

Boys junk is defined in post (see i.e. section).

http://shinymedia.headshift.com/images/photos/uncategorized/fluffy_tools.jpg

Could be a little difficult to classify.

Thanks Emma/Admin. I never realised that was what it was doing. I thought the front page was hottest deals only. That aside it is still 4-5 pages over a couple of days and it takes a while to look through cos you have to move down the entire page rather than scan the headings. Took 11 page down scrolls to get to bottom of first page. Nope not any great hardship but still a pain in the bottom.

Unfortunately don't see the function to filter off Boys Junk ;-).
#13
gary_rip
been asked before and the answer is no i'm afraid.

the thing that really is needed is a temperature filter in the forum!


A temperature filter would only work if temperature was a remotely good indicator of whether or not the deal was hot. Unfortunately most people have no clue what they're doing when they vote hot or cold so it's useless.

I was very against splitting the forum back when it was in fact filled with hot deals but now it's been horribly clogged with wii games that are 50p cheaper than everywhere else and the 831 different things you can buy with a la redoute code I'm unfortunately leaning back towards it.

The front page filters are rubbish and there's no way for anyone with a life to read through the half dozen pages a day of tat to find the one good deal.
[admin]#14
I'm happy to listen to any suggestions or ideas Artemis if you have some.
#15
How about a "Today's New Deals" section ?
A section or forum where only deals posted on the current date were shown. On the next day they would automatically move to "Current Hot Deals" or "Active Hot Deals".
[admin]#16
I'm only newish to this site, but it looks to me that the small minority of people who want split forums are the ones who are only looking for a certain thing, ie they are planning to buy it anyway and can therefore use the filter on the front page. And as for Artemis comments about "831 things to spend a Laredoute voucher on"... I've bought things via this link, as have many other HUKD users. Just because it is not for you, doesn't mean it's "Clogging" the site.

I've had to send PM's to other users who aren't as computer literate as me and who've had trouble posting pics in messages, posting new deals and such. Over complicating the process of filtering deals is unfair on these members.

If you aren't happy looking through low temperature deals, why don't you subscribe to an RSS feed so you'll receive notification of deals above your specified temperature.

Give admin a break, they're doing a great job considering how fast the site is growing, both as a site and as a community. It's you being pig-headed if you can't see that.
1 Like #17
juliet_bravo
Give admin a break, they're doing a great job considering how fast the site is growing, both as a site and as a community. It's you being pig-headed if you can't see that.


The admin wants suggestions - this is why he created this section in the forum. Please respect other peoples views without trolling.
[admin]#18
Trolling?????

Take your own advice, surely I'm entitled to my view aswell????
#19
juliet_bravo
I'm only newish to this site, but it looks to me that the small minority of people who want split forums are the ones who are only looking for a certain thing, ie they are planning to buy it anyway and can therefore use the filter on the front page. And as for Artemis comments about "831 things to spend a Laredoute voucher on"... I've bought things via this link, as have many other HUKD users. Just because it is not for you, doesn't mean it's "Clogging" the site.

I've had to send PM's to other users who aren't as computer literate as me and who've had trouble posting pics in messages, posting new deals and such. Over complicating the process of filtering deals is unfair on these members.

If you aren't happy looking through low temperature deals, why don't you subscribe to an RSS feed so you'll receive notification of deals above your specified temperature.

Give admin a break, they're doing a great job considering how fast the site is growing, both as a site and as a community. It's you being pig-headed if you can't see that.


As far as I am aware Admin has always welcomed constructive suggestions.
#20
juliet_bravo
Trolling?????

Take your own advice, surely I'm entitled to my view aswell????


You are totally as long as your not name calling.
#21
gary_rip
The admin wants suggestions - this is why he created this section in the forum.

I agree. :thumbsup:
[admin]#22
gary_rip
You are totally as long as your not name calling.


I was quoting Artemis
#23
Admin
I'm happy to listen to any suggestions or ideas Artemis if you have some.


I said in the post you replied to that unfortunately I was leaning towards splitting. It's inevitable, that's why all forums end up doing it.

When a forum like this grows to a certain point the crap to gold ratio grows with it. there's currently just too much tat to leave everything in one place. I used to be able to scan the first page of the hot deals forum twice a day and be set - or just log in and scan for a few seconds etc. Now I have to actively read multiple pages. That's a completely different method of using the site.

I was always in favour of a certain level of splitting, I don't understand why there was never a section for non-impulse buys in the first place. Hardly anybody scans a forum like this and buys a mobile phone contract or a £1000 computer just on impulse. They're actively looking for them and thus those kinds of deals can easily be split off without affecting anything.

As for the temperature thing then there is no good solution. Most people are just too stupid/busy to bother checking whether the deal is actually hot or cold and will vote on whatever is crossing their mind at the time. There are countless deals where the first post in reply points out that the deal can be bettered elsewhere and still innumerable people vote hot on it without reading the replies. Nobody should be paying attention to the temperature of a deal. It's just a random way of filling the front page with stuff and making the site look like it has lots of 'hot' deals. I get why you need to do that but I don't need to be patronised and told it's for some other reason.
[admin]#24
Sorry, correction, I was quoting Pmcg who started this thread
#25
juliet_bravo
And as for Artemis comments about "831 things to spend a Laredoute voucher on"... I've bought things via this link, as have many other HUKD users. Just because it is not for you, doesn't mean it's "Clogging" the site.


The very fact that you used the phrase 'this link' proves you had no idea what I was even complaining about.
#26
juliet_bravo
Sorry, correction, I was quoting Pmcg who started this thread


You wasn't quoting - you were calling him it directly. Would help if you put " " next time so i know tho :giggle: - right, back on topic guys... :whistling:
#27
Artemis
As for the temperature thing then there is no good solution. Most people are just too stupid/busy to bother checking whether the deal is actually hot or cold and will vote on whatever is crossing their mind at the time. There are countless deals where the first post in reply points out that the deal can be bettered elsewhere and still innumerable people vote hot on it without reading the replies. Nobody should be paying attention to the temperature of a deal. It's just a random way of filling the front page with stuff and making the site look like it has lots of 'hot' deals. I get why you need to do that but I don't need to be patronised and told it's for some other reason.


I dont agree, i think the temp thing works really well! You know if the deal hits 50+ then it more than people just random clicking!
[admin]#28
Artemis
The very fact that you used the phrase 'this link' proves you had no idea what I was even complaining about.



Don't patronise me please, I know exactly what you mean, there are hundreds of codes for laredoute and vertbaudet- all I was saying was that just because they're not for you, doesn't mean you should describe them as "clogging up the site."

And I agree with what gary_rip is saying, random clicks on temperature are one thing, but once something hits 50 or so, surely it must be a good deal?
[admin]#29
gary_rip
You wasn't quoting - you were calling him it directly. Would help if you put " " next time so i know tho :giggle: - right, back on topic guys... :whistling:



Fair enough :thumbsup:
#30
Artemis
Unfortunately most people have no clue what they're doing when they vote hot or cold so it's useless.


Same goes for a lot of the "deals" though. Couple of minutes on Pricerunner or the likes and the "deal" is there.

I was very against splitting the forum back when it was in fact filled with hot deals but now it's been horribly clogged with wii games that are 50p cheaper than everywhere else and the 831 different things you can buy with a la redoute code I'm unfortunately leaning back towards it.


That's my point, it's just way to clogged up with endless rubbish that really aint deals at all.

The front page filters are rubbish and there's no way for anyone with a life to read through the half dozen pages a day of tat to find the one good deal.


At least with split forums it could start of with Computers, Gaming, Fashion etc. then all that would be needed would be some mods. per section that could keep an eye on the topics.

pmcg
#31
hottoshop
How about a "Today's New Deals" section ?
A section or forum where only deals posted on the current date were shown. On the next day they would automatically move to "Current Hot Deals" or "Active Hot Deals".


Now that sounds like a simple and effective idea. :thumbsup:

pmcg
#32
How about some subforums within miscellaneous musings for people to post all their pointless "what did you last eat for dinner" or "what's your favorite colour" threads, and for "my x00th Post!!!!111oneone!" threads?

:)
#33
And a subforum within Hot Deals for instore only deals - as in "I went in to my local tesco today and they had this end-of-line piece of tat for 20p off - I don't know if this is available anywhere else but it's worth a l@@k!!!!111"


Grrr, I'm grumpy today :)
#34
poppy10
How about some subforums within miscellaneous musings for people to post all their pointless "what did you last eat for dinner" or "what's your favorite colour" threads, and for "my x00th Post!!!!111oneone!" threads?

:)

I agree with you. :thumbsup: How about MSE :giggle: :giggle:
#35
poppy10
And a subforum within Hot Deals for instore only deals - as in "I went in to my local tesco today and they had this end-of-line piece of tat for 20p off - I don't know if this is available anywhere else but it's worth a l@@k!!!!111"


Grrr, I'm grumpy today :)

Yep, another one for MSE :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
#36
It'd be handy if there were more options on the filter function. Three I'd find useful are:

Select multiple categories
Select only deals of X price or lower
Exclude certain keywords

These would allow you to still browse all the deals but filter out a good chunk of the ones you definately have no interest in.
#37
juliet_bravo
the small minority of people who want split forums are the ones who are only looking for a certain thing, ie they are planning to buy it anyway and can therefore use the filter on the front page.


I simply think it would be more user friendly to have separate forum sections. I am a girl ... I like to shop ... what I shop for? I don't really care :p.

juliet_bravo
Over complicating the process of filtering deals is unfair on these members.


How would have different sections on a forum be complicated? We have a totally different forum for Amazon deals? Never looked at it maybe it is amazing deals? Seems rather random.

juliet_bravo
Give admin a break, they're doing a great job considering how fast the site is growing, both as a site and as a community. It's you being pig-headed if you can't see that.


I admin at a gaming site and believe me I know how thankless a job admins have. Always criticism never thanks. That said listening to what a community wants is the best way of improving your product.

Possible sections: Fashion/Electronics/Household/Gaming/Children/Travel? (Dunno I have blinkered wishes). Quidco has quite good subsections.

Artemis I think you highlight the entire problem without even intending to. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Vertbaudet codes? I love ... you hate. Majority of hot threads are not of interest to me. Of course you do get the odd gem like Edi's cheap mother's day flowers. A front page of today's hottest and subsections would make the site more user friendly.

Alternatively you could wait till the community reaches an equilibrium where the forum reaches such gigantic proportions people leave ... and it becomes more manageable again. Personally if you want the site to continue growing my guess is somewhere along the lines you need to subsection.
#38
Scorpius
It'd be handy if there were more options on the filter function. Three I'd find useful are:

Select multiple categories
Select only deals of X price or lower
Exclude certain keywords

These would allow you to still browse all the deals but filter out a good chunk of the ones you definately have no interest in.


AFAIK, admin is working on improving the filters on the front page for the next site update. They may not have those specific things, but there will definitely be more functionality along those lines.
#39
Gaia
Artemis I think you highlight the entire problem without even intending to. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Vertbaudet codes? I love ... you hate.


No, you've misunderstood my complaint in the same way as the other poster did. At least you didn't misuse the word 'patronise' though :)

My complaint isn't againt the codes, the codes are the deal. My complain is that when, for example, someone posts a code for £20% off and free delivery for any company we then get 18 other people starting new threads with 'You can use this code to buy this television/sofa/bra/whatever'. The 'code' is the deal, the other dozen threads are superfluous crap that should at most simply be posted in the thread itself.
It seemed to start back when Asda has that code that people bought loads of Pepsi with and everyone and their dog started posting seperate threads for everything else you could buy with the 'exact same code'. Since then it has become common practise.
The threads should be merged whenever that happens and it would clearup a decent percentage of the clutter.

There are other similar examples. Dell seem to have a new computer deal every 6 hours that someone is depserate to tell us about. Random Mobile Phone contracts pop up every day which are minor variations on the day befores.

It's all just clutter that could easily be much better arranged without spoiling the underlying meaning behind the site.
#40
The Topic has created quite a lot of good ideas and there seems to be an impression that for HUKD to continue to develop the membership then it also needs to keep developing the main forum.

Let's keep it on topic and not get into debates about "you said" "he said" etc.
I'm sure none of us have time for this with all the threads in the Hot section to read. ;-)

pmcg

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