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[admin]#1
Hi Russell,

I stand by what I wrote to you in my last pm (which you have posted at the bottom of your post).

This site is here for consumers and by consumers. It is not here for merchants to advertise themselves. If a merchant wants to let us know about an offer they have which we may be interested in posting they are welcome to submit it through the front page "Submit a Deal" link. This will be reviewed and if we believe it fits the criteria for a deal we will post it.

A deal which is self-promotion will not remain in the forum.

To operate an open and honest site we do not permit posts from people who have an interest in that post. End of story.

I don't mind this thread being here and all and if anyone wants to post their thoughts please do :)

EDIT: Just another comment...

You are choosing what's good for them and choosing what to hide from them

That's the nail on the head right there. That is exactly what this site does. Our members and our mods decide what's good for the community and they post such.

If I want to hear what a merchant thinks is good for me I can turn on the radio, telly or open a newspaper.
#2
I agree with Admin I'm afraid mate. If we let you post your deals then everybody would come on here with all sorts of referral links, pyramid schemes, badly made websites, eBay links and more. We just can't moderate that.

We can't have one rule for one person and a different rule for everybody else.
#3
At the end of the day this is a great site and i think its unfair for titles like the one is this thread to be posted!
How can HUKD be any more fair than to say "If a merchant wants to let us know about an offer they have which we may be interested in posting they are welcome to submit it through the front page "Submit a Deal" link. This will be reviewed and if we believe it fits the criteria for a deal we will post it."
What more needs to be said?
#4
Members post their own finds freely in the Hot Deals forum. People don't want to see advertisements for one company, they want to see individual deals. Forums with adverts are plastered everywhere, that's the difference with HUKD, no ads, but popular deals.

What's wrong with having a link in your signature? You could post other deals for something completely seperate to your business and your FREE advertising is there every day.
[mod]#5
Russell,

Admin has already been kind enough to let you advertise (freely might i add) in your signature.

As for being treated badly, this hasnt been the case at all, you were only asked to follow the rules of the forum like everyone else. Great patience has been shown as you have consistantly flouted these rules!

Deals that are posted here are posted on merit and are not biased towards any particular merchants.
#6
Hi Paul,

"It is not driven by the merchants, it is not a place for advertising." These are your words!

Are you trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

Almost every deal post that you personally make is driven directly by the "merchants" who pay you to "advertise" their deal on your site.

It's called "affiliation" someone buys the - deal you get paid. I think Duckmagic was kind enough to inform us of this in an earlier post.

The point is, that you are indeed "self promoting" by posting and reposting these deals in the hope that a sale is made. I don't care that you make money doing this, but do not try and kid your browsers on that I am the bad guy here.

We would all like to make money, but operating as a cartel only last's so long!

Do you notice how many of your Moderators and friends have backed you up? you have good friends - hold on to them!

The consumers,your members and your affiliates are the reason why you have this site - dont offend them by saying "we do not permit posts from people who have an interest in that post" a contradiction in terms!

Russell
#7
Please don't bring that into this.

Admin has been banned from receiving affiliate money from Argos, Tesco, etc because he's decided to continue posting the codes and offers against their will.

You will see many offers on here which are with companies who don't give any affiliate money. It's all about the deals. Admin has said that before too. The server is preety big, and I'm sure that it costs quite a bit.

Anyway, this isn't your webstie Iceblue. There are rules here, and they're in place for very good reasons. As a member you are expected to follow these rules, something which the other 4,600 and odd members manage to do without complaining.
[admin]#8
As ducky wrote, affiliate links do not come into play when we post deals. The majority of merchants have affiliate programs so yes we do use them. We also post many deals without affiliate links and have been booted off several merchant's affiliate programs because we we would prefer that our members were informed about deals rather than HUKD make money.

In any case it is a somewhat ironic suggestion to make after you yourself offered affiliate commissions to myself in exchange for allowing your self-promotion. As I said then it is not a factor in deciding which deals we post.

I consider the conversation closed on this issue Iceblue. I have stated the position of HUKD clearly and believe that you understand it quite well.

If any members want to comment on this issue it is of course open but I think the conversation between yourself and myself is finished.
#9
I agree with admin on this one. I don't want HUKD to end up being cluttered full of merchants self-promoting their websites. Keep HUKD the way it is!
#10
what an a***hole this bloke is. Need i say more. Keep up the good work Admin and the rest of the team!
#11
How about craeting a separate section for merchants? The if users don't want to see their advert, they wouldn't even need to open that section. But some people might find it useful.

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