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#1
is a good point dude, I'd be willing to put bids in, isn't that essentally what a low ball offer is anyway LOL,

Actually the only problem I see would be all the members with multiple accounts raising their own price hoping someone will still go higher
#2
Non starter.

it's the only viable fair option for the seller?


Are you being serious?
Nothing wrong with the current method of sale.

so why insist on the seller setting a price that is always too high?


Where is this?
#3
I must say I have found it amusing looking at the wide gulf between commonly seen selling and looking for prices. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed this ?

on the one hand you get the 'laptop for sale, only used for 12 months, bought for 399, looking for £350'

and on the other hand...

'looking for a laptop, needs to be up to date spec, budget to spend £50'

I have seen more than once someone selling something second hand (like a 40gb PS3) and wanting more than the deal for a new identical something that had just been posted.

this is a deals website. The people on here are looking for a good deal and most of the posts show savvy and a deal of effort. This is not the ideal market place to try and sell things for unrealistic prices.

But a least they do make me laugh, sometimes out loud. Not always a good thing in an office.
#4
Be nice to have another alternative to Fleabay.

Maybe something reliable and with resaonable fees.
#5
OK as it is - don't let us spoil a good site.
[mod]#6
I don't mind it how it is......if it doesn't sell or alternatively they don't want to sell then there are many alternatives.

Here is free.........it's just a bonus not something that should draw all the resources of the site as as much as people will say i'd use it etc etc it would never register a blip on the radar to something the size of eBay.
#7
Syzable
I don't mind it how it is......if it doesn't sell or alternatively they don't want to sell then there are many alternatives.

Here is free.........it's just a bonus not something that should draw all the resources of the site as as much as people will say i'd use it etc etc it would never register a blip on the radar to something the size of eBay.


Yip, it's like 'Misc', an added extra that shouldn't take away from the focus of the site and shouldn't cause too many issues, but unfortunately both sections do!
#8
I just don't see the point in the seller being obligated to provide a selling price that is rarely ever achieved is all. Whats the point? Why not let everyone offer what they want, then it's down to the seller whether he/she accepts the highest bid. No more lowball arguements, no more gazzumping, buyer is happy and seller is also happy.
I don't see the problem with that. There is also no obligation for the seller to accept any bid, if it is below their price.
At the moment, you have a situation where the automatic first offer is always =or< 60% of the asking. Every time. That's stupid.
The auction model provides a liquid marketplace.
#9
its the same as the adtrader ect, you dont see them sayin make me an offer, this is just like a classfied listing
#10
maddness007
its the same as the adtrader ect, you dont see them sayin make me an offer, this is just like a classfied listing


By the same token, you don't see 'i'll offer x.xx' in a classified listing. It either sells at asking, or it doesn't.
#11
Scribbles
By the same token, you don't see 'i'll offer x.xx' in a classified listing. It either sells at asking, or it doesn't.


yes you do, most people that buy from the freeads never buy at the asking hence most people putter ONO
#12
Scribbles;3078906
By the same token, you don't see 'i'll offer x.xx' in a classified listing. It either sells at asking, or it doesn't.


When I get the classified ads I regularly haggle if I want anything and always get the price knocked down

When I sell something in say, the Friday Ads I always put a higher price than I want for it and usually get it.

Auctions on the other hand will destroy the FS FT forum. If you want to buy and sell like that use E-bay or I think there is a free alternative called E-bid? The reason I say that;

1. Everything in the FS FT forum sells for a fair price, if it didn't both the buyer and seller would not agree to the sale.

2. The FS FT forum will be hard to navigate as posts anything up to a month old will be constantly being bumped with someone just raising the price by £1 meaning any new content will soon disappear onto page 12 and beyond.

3. The feedback system will have to change, i.e. on here if a seller agrees to a sale or trade and subsequently pulls out they will be left a negative feedback. On an auction style sale the buyer needs to commit to selling for the ending price, if he then pulls out mid auction everyone who bidded would be entitled to leave him bad feedback.

4. The Time System on here would no re writing with every post having an exact time down to the second. There's been problems here a few times where post times have been messed up so users can miss out due to that. Also If two members both bid £100 on a PS3 and that was the closing price but both their bids went through at the same time who would decide the successful bidder as if it is to the second

5. More spamming of the board, members regularly sell 20 or more items in one thread, this would mean that members have to write and police and individual thread for each item.

6. Any post can be edited, so it would require a re write of the HUKD code, otherwise people would be able to lower their bid after the auction has ended, or equally raise their bid if they are a losing bidder.

7. A new feature would need to be implemented to allow HUKD's to automatically up your bid like E-bay does otherwise you would need to sit buy your PC watching everything you want to buy right up until the end.

Just to go back to the beginning again you say on auctions;

viable fair option for the seller? It's a buyers market

Just remember that if you are selling a PS3 under current rules and someone offers £1 for it you can report them for low ball offers.

Under an auction style if that £1 is the highest bid they have to sell.

So in fact the current rules are oth the fairest and safest for the buyer and seller and if people really want to sell as an auction as opposed to what i done on here there are plenty of sites they can do that. Finally at the end of the day the current system works and works well there's no point in fixing it if it isn't broken.
#13
Thanks for the well thought out post Rediron. I disagree with the final para, but it is a thought out reply :)
Atm, a seller that wants anything close to a fair price for his item might get a few replies for his mobile, for example ...

For sale ... Samsung Soul £180

1- Wanna swap for a P1i?
2- Wanna swap for a 6500 slide?
3- (OP declines both offers)
4- Wanna swap for a 6500 slide?
5- (OP decines again)
6- bump
7- bump

Not so much as a sniff of a decent offer near asking, so what was the point of insisting on an asking price? The OP in question has not one hope in hell of getting his asking price, he'd have more luck selling on a market stall in Harare.
It may be fair for the buyer, in fact it is heavily weighted in favour of the buyer, the seller never gets a fair crack of the whip. It's a one way street, unless the seller is willing to give away his item for considerably less than his required price. So, I ask again, what is the point of insisting on an asking price that gets shot down 100% of the time?
[mod]#14
Scribbles;3085517
what is the point of insisting on an asking price that gets shot down 100% of the time?


My recent sales have been ok. Also got 3 people after GH III at asking. lol

I think a lot of it depends on circumstances as well. I have over 100 feedback on here so i think people know they can trust me.........or at least i hope so.
#15
also theres never gonna be any 'garrenteed' system of buying, ie putting in a bid and sticking to it like ebay

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