Improving the 'like system' to something useful. Suggestion: - HotUKDeals
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The obvious problem with such a system is that it's going to take the posts completely out of their own context leaving a jumbled series of posts which potentially make no sense at the start and then holes within the thread where that post originally was.

As I prefer to have the context the post was written in, I'd prefer it if the post was simply highlighted if voted up by enough people although I've no idea what a current 'liked' post looks like.


John
#2
Yes that's a good point as well. Perhaps having a colour coded system where the most liked posts are in yellow, then orange, then red, in order to separate them from the rest. Or you could have the posts that are well liked at the top, but also they can be kept in their original location as well in order to prevent this confusion.

Johnmcl7
The obvious problem with such a system is that it's going to take the posts completely out of their own context leaving a jumbled series of posts which potentially make no sense at the start and then holes within the thread where that post originally was.

As I prefer to have the context the post was written in, I'd prefer it if the post was simply highlighted if voted up by enough people although I've no idea what a current 'liked' post looks like.


John
banned#3
guess you havent had much experience of the developers coding skills on this site yet! oO
#4
Johnmcl7
The obvious problem with such a system is that it's going to take the posts completely out of their own context leaving a jumbled series of posts which potentially make no sense at the start and then holes within the thread where that post originally was.

As I prefer to have the context the post was written in, I'd prefer it if the post was simply highlighted if voted up by enough people although I've no idea what a current 'liked' post looks like.


John


I clicked [Like this comment] for your text, John, so you can see how the current "work-in-progress" feature is presented today.

BFN,

fp.

Edited By: fanpages on Aug 08, 2010 17:00: PS. Further reply below...
banned#5
hdizzle
Yes that's a good point as well. Perhaps having a colour coded system where the most liked posts are in yellow, then orange, then red, in order to separate them from the rest. Or you could have the posts that are well liked at the top, but also they can be kept in their original location as well in order to prevent this confusion.

Johnmcl7
The obvious problem with such a system is that it's going to take the posts completely out of their own context leaving a jumbled series of posts which potentially make no sense at the start and then holes within the thread where that post originally was.

As I prefer to have the context the post was written in, I'd prefer it if the post was simply highlighted if voted up by enough people although I've no idea what a current 'liked' post looks like.


John


What you could do is leave them where they are, then click to view say 20 hottest on a seperate page.
Of course that would require 'developer' to have some idea how to do it, so you have no chance whatsoever.
#6
I acknowledge your suggestion, hdizzle, but I find sites that implement a vote-per-comment feature with automatic elevation to the top of the thread quite difficult to follow. Joystiq.com, for instance, operates a similar approach, & over time it makes, as John mentioned, following conversations very difficult; to the point of being too difficult to follow (read: bother).

Also of note, is another system, such as used at TheSixthAxis.com (amongst others), that I avoid reading for various reasons; one of which is that you can opt to reply to the main body of the thread so that your text is tagged to the end of all the other comments so far, or you can reply to an individual post & your text is inserting in a threaded reply amongst all the other comments.

With this system in place you may find replies both near the original comment (& subsequent replies) indented from the main text in the thread, or elsewhere in the thread (aligned to the left margin with all the other comments) as the thread progresses (if another person has chosen to reply to the main body of the thread rather than a specific comment). It is confusing to describe; seeing it in action doesn’t make any more sense! :)

How about a system similar to how the "Like" feature is implemented at Facebook.com? Here the count of members who have clicked 'Like this' is shown beside any post but the individual text remains in the same chronological order.

You can then cast your eye over the tally by the side of each comment to see if it has attracted the admiration of sufficient numbers for you to heed the advice or take notice of whatever the information relayed has been.

Of course, any system is open to abuse. Just as we find "cold voters" deliberately downgrading the heat on deals because of petty feuds with other members, retailers, or even games consoles they don’t own, if there is a "Like this" icon beside any comment it is only fair to add a "Don't Like this" icon as well. This would be used in the event of the posting of invalid information or incorrect advice. The “Don’t Like” tally (or just a single running total taking against of positive “Like” & negative “Don’t Like” clicks) can also be noted by those readers reading the thread later.

The Joystiq.com site has a feature where enough "Not Like" votes turn a particular comment text grey (well, gray, as it is a US site!) so such comments that have been viewed very negatively can easily be ignored against all the other comments (shown in black text).

As csiman hinted, though, there are plenty of more important (& fundamental) features to address at HotUKDeals.com first, though.

BFN,

fp.
#7
fanpages
How about a system similar to how the "Like" feature is implemented at Facebook.com? Here the count of members who have clicked 'Like this' is shown beside any post but the individual text remains in the same chronological order.

You can then cast your eye over the tally by the side of each comment to see if it has attracted the admiration of sufficient numbers for you to heed the advice or take notice of whatever the information relayed has been.


Although I agree this is a good idea, the problem arises when you have a popular thread, such as this one, where you simply cannot scroll through all 66 pages in order to look for some useful advice amongst the massive amount of anti-iphone junk that's been posted in there. That's where this idea of 'rank' comes in. Although I agree it is tricky, and potentially problematic, the good thing it brings to the table is that it highlights useful information, advice, or tips from members.

fanpages
As csiman hinted, though, there are plenty of more important (& fundamental) features to address at HotUKDeals.com first, though.


I agree too, but I just thought I'd put the idea to the table.

Edited By: hdizzle on Aug 08, 2010 17:28: .
#8
You have probably noticed that a certain selection of members always contribute to listed deals (&/or "For Sale/For Trade" classified listings) they spot in their typical site usage if the thread contains a product/item they are knowledgeable about.

Sometimes they offer the same information; sometimes they post relevant comments to help others.

How about a suggestion of "Subject Matter Experts” appointed by the Site Moderators (selected after careful consideration over a period of time, or with consultation with other members; collating votes, if need be)?

These Moderator-appointed members, with proven expertise in certain subjects, could have the ability to 'tag' certain posts as relevant, or informative, without any abilities/rights to moderate any content (or to jeopardise any classified threads). The ‘Expert’ member(s) would not be able to add their own comment (apart from the usual method of replying in the same thread) but could simply indicate (represented by a mark against any comment) that somebody else's post is true/accurate/worthy of note & their opinion could be taken into account by another member with little, or no, prior experience/knowledge.

I expect there will be a few members who will always argue with such opinions of “useful comment” tags, but the ‘Expert’ members would do so anonymously but would be open to scrutiny by any other member at any time through the usual “Contact Us” / “Report this comment” features.

An ‘Expert’ could have their ‘privilege’ withdrawn at any time if sufficient numbers of other members “complained” that the tagging was inaccurate, but they would also have the satisfaction that if they were doing a worthwhile ‘job’ that the site would be become a more informed place for everybody else.

The ‘Experts’ need not be anonymous, of course; but if their identity was not known they would not be open to abuse from others.

‘Experts’ could be changed regularly (say, every month, or every three months) to allow for impartiality, but they could re-apply to continue if they had not received a certain level of “complaints” over the preceding period.

A specific member could also put themselves forward for consideration, or any member could recommend another member.

To be asked to be an ‘Expert’ would not be guaranteed, & declining the offer to take such a post would not be seen negatively by the Site representatives, as accepting the offer to become an ‘Expert’ would only be on a “best endeavours” basis without any recompense or additional benefit.

However, to remain a fun activity for those that do accept the offer, if any member manages to retain their position for a certain period (three renewals, for instance), then they could be offered additional privileges or be considered for more permanent roles within the Site infrastructure.

I appreciate that this sort of approach may lend itself more suitably to other (non-deal related) forums with more dedicated content sections, but I just thought I’d make the suggestion in case anybody can take the idea further.

BFN,

fp.

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