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#1
I like the haggling.
#2
Shengis;2346094
I like the haggling.

As do I, and I'm not for one minute saying that should be stopped. I'm just saying I think there needs to be a limit on it because some people are taking the micky.
[admin]#3
I think there is something in the rules about low-ball offers?
#4
Admin;2346141
I think there is something in the rules about low-ball offers?

I think there is but as with the new bulk buying rule it is down to judgement on the mods behalf. I think there should be an exact rule. Buyers, sellers and mods can understand the rules then and either act with or upon them.
#5
@Highguyuk....

Would this offer, post #12 be what you mean? I'd say that was less than 1/2 price, and in words from Admin, a low-ball offer?
#6
boydent999;2346769
@Highguyuk....

Would this offer, post #12 be what you mean? I'd say that was less than 1/2 price, and in words from Admin, a low-ball offer?

Yes. Another example http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200908
#7


I think that's a fair offer. A good start to a haggle. Had I been the buyer I would have been aiming at around £9;-)
#8
Remember that with haggling, the seller will start higher than they want to get and the buyer will start with lower than what they're willing to pay, and then they'll meet in the middle... :)

Obviously if someone is taking the rip with their pricing or offers then report them (in accordance with the "low-ball offers" rule), but in most cases we'll only take action if the same person has a habit of doing it. Still, the reports are appreciated and we can add notes to users accounts if reports come through - even if we don't take action immediately.
#9
I don't see the point.

By saying "All offers must be at least 50%" of the sellers price, surely that will encourage an auction?

Seller states £100
Buyer A offers £50
Buyer B offers £55
Buyer A offers £60
Buyer C offers £65
Buyer A offers £70

I don't see the difference to now.

To avoid ridiculous offers the Seller needs to state that "No offers under xyz wil be considered, and reported"(low-ball) and then report any that do come in under the threshold.
#10
Just need to ban people who continuously low ball. I can think of a few....
#11
matt3454
Just need to ban people who continuously low ball. I can think of a few....


Stick reports in, or PM me the details. :)
banned#12
I wouldn't be offended by any low offers, happy to accept it as a free bump with a polite decline. If I'm a buyer I want it as low as possible, likewise a seller as high as possible.

I'm struggling to understand the problem here. As a seller I'd like to think i'm getting the price I had in mind, whilst offering the buyer the opportunity to purchase at a 'highly discounted' price. It's all part of the fun and sellers also know they can't offer above rrp.
#13
Sellers are listing an item when they don't know how much they want for it at a high price. This then enables "bidding" on the item by all the potential buyers until they reach the point where they get the highest price possible - and yet this is allowed according the rules. On this basis, you might as well remove the rule sellers must state a price, because the price means nothing. It's merely a number to start a thread, knowing that a bidding war can take place below the stated selling price.

In the instance of the DVD boxset, a £5 offer on a £15 item is a pathetic low ball offer. 1/3 of the asking price. But that's my opinion, and I think opinions should be removed from the rules. Bulk selling used to be no more than 2 items, which has been taken away. We have a low ball rule, but this isn't fixed in position. There should be a stated limited of a number of items, and a stated rule which defines a low ball offer. Then it's black and white - they have either broken the rules or they haven't. It makes it easier to explain decisions, easier to moderate and easier for everyone to follow.
banned#14
I see what you mean, but someone selling an item at £5 should not be surprised at offers in the region of £2. If I see an item I'll go as low as possible, however if I really want the item, I'll pitch in with a decent bid which could be accepted rather than wait for someone else to sneak in.

I don't see any issues with low bidders, and frankly anyone stating an absurd selling price is likely to be ignored (at least by me), so buyers and sellers have a decision to make upon listing/bidding.

Haggling is a game and on this forum I think it's all part of the fun and seems to work well in my opinion.
#15
aScottishBloke
I see what you mean, but someone selling an item at £5 should not be surprised at offers in the region of £2. ...........................................................................
Haggling is a game and on this forum I think it's all part of the fun and seems to work well in my opinion.


Agreed and an art as well. Go to any large car boot sale on a Sunday morning and watch the real masters at work.
I swear some people end up paying the master hagglers to take their stuff away !! :)
#16
Bartering is fine, i've (personally) no issue, but if bartering is allowed, and only the OP has agreed with me that the link i posted was a lowball, can someone tell me, in figures/percentages what a lowball is please?
#17
the price is put high as haggaling is expected

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