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[admin]#1
I didn't have an issue with it last time either except for the fact it was being used to antagonise someone. It was changed when asked politely.
#2
So they are allowed?

In what context would someone have one of these bears as an avatar other than to annoy/offend people?

Edited By: boothy on Jan 25, 2011 12:53
#3
[helper] 3 Likes #4
Each time this is raised - the discussions get very heated. One side seems to think that those who react to the paedo avy are oversensitive and don't get the joke........

However those of us with kids don't think paedophilia is something to joke about and at the very least the avatars are very distasteful....

Edited By: gari189 on Jan 25, 2011 12:57
[admin]#5
I think I've said most of what I think elsewhere. I do think that mass upset over something like pedobear only harms discussion and awareness of the truly serious nature of paedophilia.

I don't really want to get into an argument again about it, however I will read what's posted and continue to consider the situation.

Edited By: Admin on Jan 25, 2011 14:03: Spelling
3 Likes #6
Perhaps its me being naive then...so I will repeat...for what reason other than to offend or annoy would anyone have one of these as an avatar?
[admin] 2 Likes #7
Why not head to the Sexism - What Sexism??? thread and sort that out. Report back when you're done. Personally I find that thread far more offensive and damaging.

Where do you want this line drawn? There is a lot of content on here that is offensive to someone. We try to make judgements on when to shut things down. In the case of pedobear I don't think it is an issue.

Edited By: Admin on Jan 25, 2011 13:11
#8
gari189
However those of us with kids don't think paedophilia is something to joke about and at the very least the avatars are very distasteful....


There are jokes about paedophilia, and jokes about the hypocrisy of mass hysteria and public perception of paedophilia. Chris Morris has two kids...
[mod][Moderator] 8 Likes #9
Personally admin should leave them on here, it lets the majority of us know who to avoid like the plague, sexual abuse of a child is not a subject for humour even in bad taste, and to have such an avi shows the member to be a sad soul who's aim in life is to get a rise out of people, so let them shame themselves on a public forum and just feel pity for them
#10
Admin
Why not head to the Sexism - What Sexism??? thread and sort that out. Report back when you're done. Personally I find that thread far more offensive and damaging.

Where do you want this line drawn? There is a lot of content on here that is offensive to someone. We try to make judgements on when to shut things down. In the case of pedobear I don't think it is an issue.



I would like the line drawn at pedo references and symbols

However Its your site,your ultimate decision and have to respect that

Personally I totally disagree with your view,but am big enough to move on.






Edited By: boothy on Jan 25, 2011 13:19
#11
boothy
I would like the line drawn at pedo references and symbols..


Like 2-pin din plug? P2PBSH?
#12
WTF is a paedobear??

Rupert always gave the creeps as a Kid... Is he one?
#13
All bears are paedophiles.
#14
what\are they?
[admin]#15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedobear

Pedobear is an Internet meme that became popular through the imageboard 4chan.[1] As the name suggests ("pedo" being short for pedophile), it is portrayed as a pedophile bear.[2] The image was incorrectly described as a mascot among pedophiles, and cosplay participants dressed as the character were accused of being pedophiles,[1][3] after the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Department issued a warning that Pedobear was a sign of the presence of pedophiles and other people with inappropriate sexual behavior.[4]
2 Likes #16
come on, paedobear avatars aren't that bad really.
if anything it highlights the fact that something which may seen friendly may well not be.

personally i find the smutty ones worse (dont get me wrong im a great lover of smut :) )
stuff like shadow1s female in santa suit bending over, loghboroughguys grab a pornogran, million other pubescent kid style booooobies types avatar spring to mind.

in terms of family friendly - paedobear is more friendly to kids which happen to be curious about what you are doing on the computer as its 'just a bear' to them.
#17
Oh Man...I have just had the best laugh ever over this.

Brilliant, Chris Morris couldn't have pulled a better stunt!

I now despair that this thread was ever even started.
#18
Celticsun
Oh Man...I have just had the best laugh ever over this.

Brilliant, Chris Morris couldn't have pulled a better stunt!

I now despair that this thread was ever even started.


i had a good chuckle at the wiki page.....sheriffs and tv stations indeed.

Law enforcement officials in San Diego later sent a warning to local media, warning parents that the image can indicate the presence of pedophiles
#19
im enlightened but im not sure i wanted to be :{
1 Like #20
I guess this is about me?

I've only got this avatar because its the first one i found that looked like an avatar, my previous two were rick astley and an album cover.

If its really causing you this much distress then i will remove it.

edit: this avatar was actually stole of admin of a football forum. Its just a bit of fun.

Edited By: matt3454 on Jan 25, 2011 18:07
6 Likes #21
matt3454
I guess this is about me?

I've only got this avatar because its the first one i found that looked like an avatar, my previous two were rick astley and an album cover.

If its really causing you this much distress then i will remove it.

edit: this avatar was actually stole of admin of a football forum. Its just a bit of fun.


regardless of the origins the bear and whether it does indicate the prescence of peadophiles or not it is now inextricably associated with the word peadophile and unfortunately that does not come under the heading of 'a bit of fun' for me, each and everytime i see that bear the word comes to mind and i'm sure many others feel the same way, the fact that you are asking people to say whether or not they are distressed by it in order for you to remove it also shows you like a reaction, i just think its sad, there are millions of images out there you can use. I know other things are offensive too but thats about where you set yr personal level of decency at, boobs and bums do not however conjour up the same amount of distaste to the majority, i just think its insensitive

another one earlier i just dont get it

oh and for the record yes I would like you to remove it please.

Edited By: michelleleemoo on Jan 25, 2011 19:39
3 Likes #22
saddest thread of the year so far. 10 years and nothing has changed since brass eye. sad times.
banned 2 Likes #23
I think most people know well that I think matt3454 is an utter ****, and I'd love to jump on the hate bandwagon... However I can't.

Seriously... THAT avatar offends you? I bet the majority don't even get it. Like most 4chan stuff, its not in the best possible taste, but it's mostly very funny.

I also thought the brass eye special was awesome too. "look at this paedo disguised as a school"

Get over it. Please.
[helper]#24
Admin
Why not head to the Sexism - What Sexism??? thread and sort that out. Report back when you're done. Personally I find that thread far more offensive and damaging.
To be fair,if you look at the code of conduct there is nothing about sexism - sexuality yes but not sexism and I think there should be something....... you've covered everything else X)

Racism, Religion, Sexuality, Background: Attacks on a person’s faith, race, colour, sexual preference or social background will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of Admin and Moderators without prior warning to the offenders.

•A person’s religious, sexual or any other orientation in life should be respected at all times
•Any replies to a discussion on these topics must be respectful and constructive.


Edited By: gari189 on Jan 25, 2011 23:00
1 Like #25
vibeone
I think most people know well that I think matt3454 is an utter ****, and I'd love to jump on the hate bandwagon... However I can't.

Seriously... THAT avatar offends you? I bet the majority don't even get it. Like most 4chan stuff, its not in the best possible taste, but it's mostly very funny.

I also thought the brass eye special was awesome too. "look at this paedo disguised as a school"

Get over it. Please.


much love xx
1 Like #26
i dont really understand though.

how can a bear be a peadofile?

Wouldn't it be classed as beastiality?

edit: I didn't get this avatar to fish for a reaction, in fact i made no mention of it all until this thread.

Edited By: matt3454 on Jan 26, 2011 15:15: fseg
#27
matt3454
i dont really understand though.how can a bear be a peadofile?Wouldn't it be classed as beastiality?

Depends on the legal age of consent for cubs doesn't it. :{

Edited By: trog0 on Jan 26, 2011 03:17
#28
matt3454
i dont really understand though.

how can a bear be a peadofile?

Wouldn't it be classed as beastiality?


well as it offends why would you want it? the fact you still have it shows you want to be depicted in this way. I agree with Moo get rid of it.
[mod] 3 Likes #29
I think the Paedo avatar is just one example of many things on here now. It's all about antagonising and fishing for reactions on here now. People aim to become 'famous' on a shopping forum by any means necessary.

The code of conduct is also a pointless topic to bring up as they are virtually redundant and it would be easier to say anything goes except for what Mods decide to use 'discretion' to take action against. You could pick out every rule break daily but mostly nothing is done and it often depends on who the poster is as well.

It's just how the site has evolved over the years in the Misc section away from a community feel and into a platform for a lot of rudeness and abuse. However it's the Deals which is the main part of the site and that continues to be the same as ever which is it's saving grace.
[helper] 2 Likes #30
Syzable
I think the Paedo avatar is just one example of many things on here now. It's all about antagonising and fishing for reactions on here now..

Indeed but what gets me is people keep comparing the reaction to the avy as the same as the reaction to Brass Eye. Brass Eye was a programme written to shock and provoke - the more reaction (free promotion) it got for the TV channel and the programme maker the more people would watch it/talk about it.

As Boothy says whats the purpose of using the avy on Hotukdeals other than to annoy/offend people.....
#31
matt3454
I guess this is about me?

I've only got this avatar because its the first one i found that looked like an avatar, my previous two were rick astley and an album cover.

If its really causing you this much distress then i will remove it.

edit: this avatar was actually stole of admin of a football forum. Its just a bit of fun.

The paedo aspect aside, could you please explain the 'fun' part of having a teddy as your avatar? I don't understand.
#32
matt3454
i dont really understand though.

how can a bear be a peadofile?

Wouldn't it be classed as beastiality?

personally i dont care about the paedobear much but didn't you say you'd take it down if it offended?
you were asked to take it down and you haven't
so sounds like the initial 'attention seeking, reaction provoking' reason was your real motivation.

paed means child it doesn't have to be a human so a bear could still be a paedophile if you wanted to be continue your 'witty' defense of the avatar.
banned#33
Syzable
It's all about antagonising and fishing for reactions on here now


I've been doing that since 2008 brah.

Syzable
People aim to become 'famous' on a shopping forum by any means necessary


I became famous without trying - it just happened because I'm a legend.

Also - I think its just down to a lack of mods online, and a terrible infraction system. vBulletin had a infraction-system mod which was easy to use and robust. The new site just about works now, but the infraction system is a nightmare to use, and usually requires admin intervention.

Thats not to say people don't get infracted - they do, its just hard work for petty squabbles etc.
banned#34
brilly
matt3454
i dont really understand though.

how can a bear be a peadofile?

Wouldn't it be classed as beastiality?

personally i dont care about the paedobear much but didn't you say you'd take it down if it offended?
you were asked to take it down and you haven't
so sounds like the initial 'attention seeking, reaction provoking' reason was your real motivation.

paed means child it doesn't have to be a human so a bear could still be a paedophile if you wanted to be continue your 'witty' defense of the avatar.


If matt removes his avatar, I will change mine to it. It's not up to you to act as editor for other user's avatars. Its up to the admin and mods who have made their position clear - its allowed.
#35
vibeone
brilly
matt3454
i dont really understand though.

how can a bear be a peadofile?

Wouldn't it be classed as beastiality?

personally i dont care about the paedobear much but didn't you say you'd take it down if it offended?
you were asked to take it down and you haven't
so sounds like the initial 'attention seeking, reaction provoking' reason was your real motivation.

paed means child it doesn't have to be a human so a bear could still be a paedophile if you wanted to be continue your 'witty' defense of the avatar.


If matt removes his avatar, I will change mine to it. It's not up to you to act as editor for other user's avatars. Its up to the admin and mods who have made their position clear - its allowed.

yeah but then you never said you'd remove your avatar if someone was offended by it.
matt did.
only reason to keep it now is to be an idiot and annoy people.
his 'witty innocenc'e about the avatar just makes him look worse.
#36
I have never heard of this before. Im quite shocked I haven't as with 3 young kiddies I would want to keep them as safe as possible - so basically if you see these bears on websites it means, that paedophiles are lurking, are they using these symbols to lure children or to let other sickos know they are there. In my book, these people deserve nothing less than being locked in a dark dungeon with no food or drink and be allowed to die a slow painful death. There is no forgiveness for this and I have such hatred for these awful horrid evil people. Another news report yesterday of a policeman who has been jailed for life for his crimes against children. Lets hope life means life and he will rot away in a cell.
banned#37
Ashley675
I have never heard of this before. Im quite shocked I haven't as with 3 young kiddies I would want to keep them as safe as possible - so basically if you see these bears on websites it means, that paedophiles are lurking, are they using these symbols to lure children or to let other sickos know they are there. In my book, these people deserve nothing less than being locked in a dark dungeon with no food or drink and be allowed to die a slow painful death. There is no forgiveness for this and I have such hatred for these awful horrid evil people. Another news report yesterday of a policeman who has been jailed for life for his crimes against children. Lets hope life means life and he will rot away in a cell.


Are you being sarcastic or are you really that stupid?
#38
I know there are pedos, what I didnt know about was this bear avatar - did you not understand that from what I said, or are you just that stupid/
banned#39
Ashley675
I know there are pedos, what I didnt know about was this bear avatar - did you not understand that from what I said, or are you just that stupid/


Thanks for answering my question - yep you really are that stupid.
#40
Yeh you are arent you. Whats that on your shoulder - oh its a giant chip!

vibeone
Ashley675
I know there are pedos, what I didnt know about was this bear avatar - did you not understand that from what I said, or are you just that stupid/


Thanks for answering my question - yep you really are that stupid.

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