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#1
Did u verify their details before parting cash ? :)

Given them another deadline, say 24hrs, to reply (by email, voicemail etc) else, start a Paypal action !
#2
first of all contact paypal and make a dispute with them if you paid by credit card do a snach back let us all know his/her name for ridicule purposes and tell a mod, if this dont work small clames court would be my next move
banned#3
You are complaining about being scammed, yet you also bought a fake memory card and happy to see Sony being scammed, think about it....

Anyway, you also asked him to update the firmware, - its only 3 days since the sale, There may be genuine reasons for not being available yesterday, but I don't know the facts..

Did you carry out the FS.FT checks in full, inc telephone call, address, verification/small deposit etc ?
#4
I'd give it a bit longer as it's only been 4 days.
#5
[quote=aScottishBloke;1996715]You are complaining about being scammed, yet you also bought a fake memory card and happy to see Sony being scammed, think about it....

Anyway, you also asked him to update the firmware, - its only 3 days since the sale, There may be genuine reasons for not being available yesterday, but I don't know the facts..


if sony charged a realistic price for there cards no one would buy coppies as they woulden't exist ,so is sony not ripping us off over charging us for the cards?
#6
ppsamlancs

Last Activity: 27-04-2008 00:12
banned#7
But a 1 day suspension followed...

Raptorcigs, no point in trying to condone piracy. The PSP is not a neccessity, purchase at the market rate or take your custom elsewhere. Manufacturers respond to this, however if a substantial part of the the customer base is happy to pay, then it indicates they have set an appropriate price for the goods.

It's your rip off's like tesco/argos whos mem card prices are much more than the majority of retailers, presumably banking on the ignorance of others who are not aware of the alternatives, or sometimes just pay for the convenience of having the goods to hand.
#8
aScottishBloke;1997149
But a 1 day suspension followed...

Raptorcigs, no point in trying to condone piracy. The PSP is not a neccessity, purchase at the market rate or take your custom elsewhere. Manufacturers respond to this, however if a substantial part of the the customer base is happy to pay, then it indicates they have set an appropriate price for the goods.

It's your rip off's like tesco/argos whos mem card prices are much more than the majority of retailers, presumably banking on the ignorance of others who are not aware of the alternatives, or sometimes just pay for the convenience of having the goods to hand.

i know you are wrong
piracy is the result of overpricing
#9
Can I first of all make a point. I do not condone piracy and, in fact, I wish only to extend the functionality of the PSP for homebrew only! My main reason for a buying a 'cheap' psp is that I have 2 young kids and they will use it as a 'button basher' on long car trips! The wife also likes to watch photos and movies of our kids, hence another reason for extending its functionality.
On the subject of the memory card, it was never mentioned in the inital sale, and I was quite happy to buy a genuine card. The seller decided to 'throw it in' at last minute saying he forgot to mention it...my alarm bells should have started ringing then!!!
Anyway, as to the possible scam, I am not complaining about being scammed, I am just looking for advice from experienced members. I made a number of basic errors in making the transaction and, at the end of the day, it is my fault for allowing myself to be scammed so easily. I did not verify the details but I did note that he did not give a landline number (my eyebrows raised at that!) That said, I paid by PayPal and I think I should have some comeback, that is what I am paying Paypal fees for isn't it?
All said and done, although not yet confirmed, I have a feeling that I have been scammed and if I were to report it to PayPal would I stand a chance of getting my monney back?
How did the mod find out he was trading under 2 accounts...did he do a check on address details.
Thanks for your interest folks.
#10
RedDwarfIsCool;1997250
Can I first of all make a point. I do not condone piracy and, in fact, I wish only to extend the functionality of the PSP for homebrew only! My main reason for a buying a 'cheap' psp is that I have 2 young kids and they will use it as a 'button basher' on long car trips! The wife also likes to watch photos and movies of our kids, hence another reason for extending its functionality.
On the subject of the memory card, it was never mentioned in the inital sale, and I was quite happy to buy a genuine card. The seller decided to 'throw it in' at last minute saying he forgot to mention it...my alarm bells should have started ringing then!!!
Anyway, as to the possible scam, I am not complaining about being scammed, I am just looking for advice from experienced members. I made a number of basic errors in making the transaction and, at the end of the day, it is my fault for allowing myself to be scammed so easily. I did not verify the details but I did note that he did not give a landline number (my eyebrows raised at that!) That said, I paid by PayPal and I think I should have some comeback, that is what I am paying Paypal fees for isn't it?
All said and done, although not yet confirmed, I have a feeling that I have been scammed and if I were to report it to PayPal would I stand a chance of getting my monney back?
How did the mod find out he was trading under 2 accounts...did he do a check on address details.
Thanks for your interest folks.

ip address?
banned#11
RedDwarfIsCool,

You might not have been scammed, you asked for the item to be upgraded, although you are frustrated at not being able to get in touch.

I don't know if PayPal can help if the item is not received within 72 hrs, perhaps you have to wait a little longer.

Hopefully you get your item(s), but the lesson to be learned is always follow the fs/ft guidelines/rules to reduce the possibility of being scammed.

Saying that, if you want to PM me details of the transaction, inc address/name/email I'll see if I can help.

Good luck
#12
raptorcigs
i know you are wrong
piracy is the result of overpricing


Sorry raptor but that has to be one of the most ridiculous satements I have ever read.

You need to do some serious research into economics, business studies and market forces.
banned#13
I'm afraid you'll not get much sense from raptorcigs.
#14
I think I will give the seller the benefit of the doubt and will allow one more day for delivery although he did promise special next day delivery!

The fact that the he hasn't been in touch since the transaction was compeletd does not bode well.

If I don't hear any word by tomorrow I will pm you (aScottishBloke) the transaction details.
Thanks for your help guys
#15
I think you also meant to name this thread "Scammer" not "Spammer". :)


Thanks for help and advice. I will be careful in the future, no more trades with any user with no credible feedback.


Forget about Feedback, everyone starts with Zero. It is much more important to make sure you do adequate checks to ensure the person you are trading with is Kosher. No one has been scammed that has followed all the guidelines.

As others have said, it may be possible that the person you are buying from is having difficulty getting the firmware you want put on the PSP, but I don't think this is the case, as they should've informed you.
If I was scamming someone, I would state that I had a genuine memory stick, and the latest custom firmware.

Although stating that you have a bogus memory stick is swept under the carpet on HUKD.

If you still require one, put up a wanted ad again, and someone more reputable may sell you one. :)
#16
Removed off topic posts. Please keep the thread on topic.
#17
Good news guys!!

The seller sent me an email last night and provided an explanation for what non-receipt of goods and apologised for now being in touched. This confirms my initial thoughts in that I considered the seller and transaction to be genuine. I have been on eBay for years and I am not exactly wet behind the ears when it comes to buying and selling.

Anyway, as aScottishBloke had anticipated, when he went to upgrade the firmware he bricked the PSP! Also, he is having problems with PayPayl in that he cannot withdraw, send or refund any monies from his account.

This is his suggestion:

"At the moment i'd say the best thing for you to do is put in a paypal dispute for item not received - I will then comment in the dispute saying the problems and it should give me the option to refund you, or paypal will refund you automatically after a week anyway."

I am now going to raise a PayPal dispute and will update this thread to let you all know how it works out.
1 Like #18
You should just ask him to send you the bricked PSP, I can lend you the equipment needed to unbrick it, but it is only 3.80 M33-5
banned#19
thesaint
You should just ask him to send you the bricked PSP, I can lend you the equipment needed to unbrick it, but it is only 3.80 M33-5


Seems like a great piece of advice, if seller is genuine he would send on. He has your money, it's not your problem if he's got it tied up due to some unknown paypal reason.
#20
thesaint
You should just ask him to send you the bricked PSP, I can lend you the equipment needed to unbrick it, but it is only 3.80 M33-5


aScottishBloke
Seems like a great piece of advice, if seller is genuine he would send on. He has your money, it's not your problem if he's got it tied up due to some unknown paypal reason.


Two great pieces of advice, you are both a credit to the forum.

Keep it up guys! (gals)

:thumbsup:
banned#21
DudeyGeeza
Two great pieces of advice, you are both a credit to the forum.

Keep it up guys! (gals)

:thumbsup:


Dudyegeeza,

You just can't let go, can you ?

Take it on the chin, you pushed Admin well over the line defending the indefensible.
#22
aScottishBloke
Dudyegeeza,

You just can't let go, can you ?

Take it on the chin, you pushed Admin well over the line defending the indefensible.


eh??

I just thought i'd be nice, now i'm being flamed for that..

Just so there was no hard feelings.

Jeez!
banned#23
DudeyGeeza,

You're just not clever with words are you, I'll refrain from posting anymore unless thread specific.
#24
aScottishBloke
DudeyGeeza,

You're just not clever with words are you, I'll refrain from posting anymore unless thread specific.


Yes me too.

Sorry for everything, that goes to thesaint too, nothing personal was meant at all.

You were right, i was wrong. Thanks for letting me know though.

:oops:
#25
Logical advice, I know, from aScottishBloke and TheSaint but, being honest, its too much hassle (thanks for the offer though TheSaint). I'd rather have something that is working without having to fix it.

All is not lost though. My brother has offered to buy the 'bricked' psp so the seller may still have a deal to negotiate. He has yet to reply back on the offer. I will post back to let you know final position.

Thanks again for interest
#26
RedDwarfIsCool
Logical advice, I know, from aScottishBloke and TheSaint but, being honest, its too much hassle (thanks for the offer though TheSaint). I'd rather have something that is working without having to fix it.

All is not lost though. My brother has offered to buy the 'bricked' psp so the seller may still have a deal to negotiate. He has yet to reply back on the offer. I will post back to let you know final position.

Thanks again for interest


Getting a refund from a suspended Paypal account is a lot harder than flashing a bricked PSP.
But, it's your money, your choice.
#27
Folks,
Forgot all about this thread....so here's how it all panned out.
The seller and I agreed to clear the issue via PayPal dispute.
About 10 days later I got my money back, woo-hoo!
I ended up buying a PSP via eBay, and I was well pleased. Cost me £80, with 2Gb card, with CFW and all the accessories and in absolute immaculate condition.
Cheers

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