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#1
There are plenty of other ways to donate to charity if people want to.
#2
Are HUKD serious.............Too Many Charity Threads......

Disgusting, well I hope if the Admin ever need the help of a Charity they don't recieve it.
banned#3
Alfonse
Are HUKD serious.............Too Many Charity Threads......

Disgusting, well I hope if the Admin ever need the help of a Charity they don't recieve it.


I agree 100%.
suspended#4
alfonse thats a bit harsh...i wouldnt wish anyone to have problems and not be able to receive the care...but there shouldnt be a limit on charity threads considering some of the other garbage threads that are posted in this section..
#5
Snailman
There are plenty of other ways to donate to charity if people want to.


But when a child could die, you have to use as many options as you can.

What if it was your 6yr old little girl.
banned#6
guv
Who removed it? Shame on whoever it was.

So helping to save a 6 year old isnt worthy, but trolling threads aimed at inciting a negative response are fine!

I think I must have misunderstood something in the code of conduct!

No doubt this thread will also be removed. I can understand why!


100% with you also:thumbsup:
#7
pcnutta
But when a child could die, you have to use as many options as you can.

What if it was your 6yr old little girl.


Yes, i completely agree it is a good way of raising awareness.
[admin]#9
Moved to Feedback
#10
how about getting rid of the waste of time threads to say hello or goodnight to make room for more worthy threads like charity?? surely if someone what to say hi or bye to someone they know couldn't they just PM?
[helper]#11
Charity threads should definitely be allowed in MIsc.

I can't understand there being "too many" charity threads. Maybe the Mods want one thread per charity? like the help for hereos thread.....

Can admin/mods clarify what is and isn't allowed?
#12
same story different person
#13
well this is a good start - mods have moved the thread to feedback - free speech and all
wheres gari gone - (expired)

as for comments regarding trolliing i agree to a point - but i put posts up - re tennis restarting - some people who are not interested may take this as rubbish
[admin]#14
Charity threads are soliciting people for money.

We have no resources to put towards vetting and examining every charity thread to see if it is legit. Second, most people are coming here for deals and not to be solicited for money. There are a lot of notable causes out there but there are also a lot of better sites that meet this need.

You are welcome to use the PM feature to ask your friends on HUKD if they would like to support your fundraiser.
#15
fireexit;2920590
how about getting rid of the waste of time threads to say hello or goodnight to make room for more worthy threads like charity?? surely if someone what to say hi or bye to someone they know couldn't they just PM?


I completely agree. Get a life.
#16
Admin
Charity threads are soliciting people for money.

We have no resources to put towards vetting and examining every charity thread to see if it is legit. Second, most people are coming here for deals and not to be solicited for money. There are a lot of notable causes out there but there are also a lot of better sites that meet this need.

You are welcome to use the PM feature to ask your friends on HUKD if they would like to support your fundraiser.


agreed
#17
Admin
Charity threads are soliciting people for money.

We have no resources to put towards vetting and examining every charity thread to see if it is legit. Second, most people are coming here for deals and not to be solicited for money. There are a lot of notable causes out there but there are also a lot of better sites that meet this need.

You are welcome to use the PM feature to ask your friends on HUKD if they would like to support your fundraiser.


i can understand you cannot vet all - thanks for the thumbs up regarding pms:thumbsup:

dont want to take thread away from original post - sorry pc - there are a lot of comments regarding waste of time posts - you have dealt with congrats thread - very good - so whats going to happen regards trolling -

personally it doesnt bother me - i find some quite funny - but there are some who dont post a deal/comp/voucher/ (as you stated thats what hukd is for) and get a great reputation from it

an idea would be to have a vote of hukd for or against??
[admin]#18
If people don't post deals they don't get much of a vote rep. The status bars under the avatar is not indicative of actual vote power.
#19
holly100
i can understand you cannot vet all - thanks for the thumbs up regarding pms:thumbsup:

dont want to take thread away from original post - sorry pc - there are a lot of comments regarding waste of time posts - you have dealt with congrats thread - very good - so whats going to happen regards trolling -

personally it doesnt bother me - i find some quite funny - but there are some who dont post a deal/comp/voucher/ (as you stated thats what hukd is for) and get a great reputation from it

an idea would be to have a vote of hukd for or against??


Holly-i dont post deals as i always do something wrong :oops:
I think charity posts should be allowed-why not?? just dont click on it if ou dont want to know?:thumbsup:
I however have fundraised in the past and any awareness helps:thumbsup:
sorry pcnutta-i dont think its fair either:roll:
#20
Personally I find this policy a bit ambiguous - there are plenty of pointless threads on here which could be axed to make room for charity posts. Granted, the site does not cater specifically for these charities, but nor does it cater specifically for people telling jokes, and there are plenty of them, and people like to read them. So how can HUKD justify leaving jokes on, but not charities? Aren't both of them useful to their members?
I think it's worth starting some suggestions on how to fit charities in (I don't believe one should criticise without offering a valid solution), so here's my offering:
One thread for charities, which is bumped once a week, to contain all charity related posts. Would it work?
#21
louloo
Holly-i dont post deals as i always do something wrong :oops:
I think charity posts should be allowed-why not?? just dont click on it if ou dont want to know?:thumbsup:
I however have fundraised in the past and any awareness helps:thumbsup:
sorry pcnutta-i dont think its fair either:roll:



sorry lou lou - i was just highlighting what admin stated i.e site is for deals

i should have also added the threads were people have asked for tech advice etc and got help - suggestions - this is what makes hukd so good:thumbsup:
#22
If this had been announced as a new rule then fair enough but i see no problem in people making us aware of charities and funds needing awareness and help. I certainly don't feel any pressure to even look at thread never mind donating.
If this is a change to the rules and applies to every charity thread then maybe an announcement would be a good idea to show it applies to all or tell us how many is too many ,i don't think you the site ahould pick and chose what charity threads stay or go.
[admin]#23
It's not a change in the rules. We've always worked this way except for a very few exceptions.

The difference which I tried to point out above is that even though charities are for a 'cause' they are still soliciting people for money. That's not something we allow here.
#24
So this should be across the board for ALL charity requests then... hmm let me see how many are still up and running!!!
#26
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/228038/10k-cancer-charity-run/

thats still up and running!!

DO i need to continue! or is this person discrimination!
#27
As the Help For Heroes was allowed, I assume it was to do with fact the money was going to Justgiving as they semi vet charities. Was pcnutta's charity set up in a similar way?
Personally I still don't get the difference - HFH was soliciting was it not? I'm not having a dig, but I don't see why one was allowed and the other not.
[helper] 1 Like #28
Admin
It's not a change in the rules. We've always worked this way except for a very few exceptions.

The difference which I tried to point out above is that even though charities are for a 'cause' they are still soliciting people for money. That's not something we allow here.


Admin - it would be great if you could reconsider this and take into account the opinions of the majority of members.

I understand that you are concerned about abuses and scams that may happen. The majority of us are savvy enough to carefully check anything we might donate to. I'm sure there will be occasional abuses of the system (like scammers in the for sale section) but anything like that would be highlighted very quickly.

You also mention that people come on here for "deals". If thats the case why have a Misc section? or a for sale section? In the past I think you may have mentioned this is to foster a HDUK community. What better way to foster a community spirit than charity threads?

I'm not being argumentative - just trying to express my thoughts on this.
Cheers
Gari
#29
Admin
It's not a change in the rules. We've always worked this way except for a very few exceptions.

The difference which I tried to point out above is that even though charities are for a 'cause' they are still soliciting people for money. That's not something we allow here.



There are many on the site though, either you allow it or you don't seems like some can post about a charity and some can't.
#30
It is disqusting, i see not valid arguement or reason as to why my charity thread which was raising money to KEEP A LITTLE 6 YR OLD GIRL ALIVE!!! was removed. I hope YOU admins NEVER have to face a position where your child has to depend on others to keep your child alive. Then some admins remove it due to * too many charity threads* which I QUOTE WAS THE EXACT TERM USED!

I see other charity appeals on here which HAVE been allowed. This is totally wrong and shows discrimination on HUKD.

I have never participated in arguements of others saying about unfair removal of threads and how come peoples are allowed etc however seeing this first hand i believe this to be the case

I find this very disturbing as well as unfair. My promotion of this site to others will now stop. I would not encourage anyone to join a site which openly promotes favoritism and discrimination.

I hope you are VERY pleased with yourselves and your action.
Quite frankly your actions and justifications are disqusting.
[admin]#31
Do you have any idea how many threads have been removed?

And second are you saying everytime you walk down the high street you have a long chat with the chuggers?

I understand there are legitimate causes but there are also a load of sites and organisation that are out there spreading the word about charities. I'm not sure it is HUKD's function to play a role in that.

I can understand wanting to inform your HUKD friends so they can help out and as said you can use the PM to do that with your friends. I do not think this site is the best place to put unsolicited requests for money to other members of the public.

gari189 - I'm happy to come to a compromise. For example I can see something like a single thread where members put forth their charities with known fundraising sites and with a disclaimer that HUKD has not vetted them etc. Personally I don't think it would be very effective but hey...
#32
May i suggest then you remove ALL charity threads. As i am sure you want HUKD to be known as a fair, unbiased, & transparent site:whistling:

I will endeavour to keep my eyes open for up and coming charity request threads. As I appreciate you must be busy *vetting* threads. Therefore I can assure you i will bring it to your attention when and should I find such s postings.:roll: As I am sure you would want to have this decision across the board, without prejudice.
banned#33
Admin
Charity threads are soliciting people for money.

We have no resources to put towards vetting and examining every charity thread to see if it is legit. Second, most people are coming here for deals and not to be solicited for money. There are a lot of notable causes out there but there are also a lot of better sites that meet this need.

You are welcome to use the PM feature to ask your friends on HUKD if they would like to support your fundraiser.


Admin
It's not a change in the rules. We've always worked this way except for a very few exceptions.

The difference which I tried to point out above is that even though charities are for a 'cause' they are still soliciting people for money. That's not something we allow here.


So how come you allowed c32 thread to run and continually be bumped for almost 3 months
#34
fascist's :whistling:
banned#35
sassie
So how come you allowed c32 thread to run and continually be bumped for almost 3 months


Also when Fireheaven posted a charity thread it remained on the site.:thumbsup:

Why exceptions???

I thought that it was one rule for all.
#36
It speaks volumes about the management and running of this site. Shameful and dogmatic
#37
might be wrong here but im sure a while back someone was taking donations for a friend and that was not stopped?

and the HFH thread was ok so where is the line thats been crossed? or is it once again 'discretion'
#38
They will never accept on this occasion they were wrong, nor will they answer why other charity threads have been allowed to run.
[helper]#39
Admin
gari189 - I'm happy to come to a compromise. For example I can see something like a single thread where members put forth their charities with known fundraising sites and with a disclaimer that HUKD has not vetted them etc. Personally I don't think it would be very effective but hey...


I agree a single thread wouldn't be very effective. If its a case of that or nothing I'm not sure what the charity thread posters would prefer......
banned#40
would rather see game threads deleted than once in a blue moon charity thread, but agree with admin no soliciting for money on this site.

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