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1 Like #1
There is a need for it, so, "no".
banned 1 Like #2
No need to remove it - just set people who abuse it to 0 spam power. Job done.
#3
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".


whydo we need it
banned#4
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".


for what?
[mod]#5
When used in the proper way it is useful.
#6
Completely Agree I got my thread spammed this morning because someone thought it was similar to another!
#7
if its a duplicate just report instead
1 Like #8
tru dat

when they hit spam in misc a little message should appear on their screens....

man up fool....tis the net!
#9
fab_1

whydo we need it


colinsunderland


for what?


To remove unwanted threads. I once wrote a thread(award winning) about the use, I can dig up a link if you need educating
[mod]#10
thesaint
fab_1

whydo we need it


colinsunderland


for what?


To remove unwanted threads. I once wrote a thread(award winning) about the use, I can dig up a link if you need educating


I wouldn't say no...
banned#11
thesaint
fab_1

whydo we need it


colinsunderland


for what?


To remove unwanted threads. I once wrote a thread(award winning) about the use, I can dig up a link if you need educating


Would rather see the official reasons please?

How come people misusing the spam button don't ever get infracted?
#12
When someone decides to spam with loads of porn at 2am in the morning? When companies try to spam in misc? Etc etc.
#13
colinsunderland

Would rather see the official reasons please?


Maybe a mod/admin will turn up, but, as jah28 has given two of many reasons, maybe not...

colinsunderland

How come people misusing the spam button don't ever get infracted?


That would be an assumption. A wrong assumtption.

magicjay1986

I wouldn't say no...


colinsunderland, do not click.
banned#14
thesaint

colinsunderland

How come people misusing the spam button don't ever get infracted?


That would be an assumption. A wrong assumtption.


How many infractions have you had for doing it?
Considering how often the same peoples threads are spammed over and over again, if people were getting infracted I'm sure one of them would have mentioned it by now
How do you know the assumption is wrong anyway?

Edited By: colinsunderland on Jun 18, 2011 12:01: x
1 Like #15
fab_1
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".



whydo we need it


colinsunderland
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".


for what?


Because there's a hardcore of members who don't know how to behave like dignified human beings, and their posts are derogatory and insulting, which is aginst HUKD rules.
Why should people be able to make accusations and tell lies without fear of the thread being removed? I know mods can see them but they can't see everything so it's fair to allow member spamming.
banned 1 Like #16
guv
colinsunderland
thesaint

colinsunderland

How come people misusing the spam button don't ever get infracted?


That would be an assumption. A wrong assumtption.


How many infractions have you had for doing it?
Considering how often the same peoples threads are spammed over and over again, if people were getting infracted I'm sure one of them would have mentioned it by now


Don't these "same" people's threads always contain inflammatory and derogatory comments over and over again towards other members? Maybe if that didn't happen anyone spamming would get infracted. I've certainly never been infracted for spamming, but then I rarely do so and when I do, it's for the right reasons!



deek72
fab_1
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".



whydo we need it


colinsunderland
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".


for what?


Because there's a hardcore of members who don't know how to behave like dignified human beings, and their posts are derogatory and insulting, which is aginst HUKD rules.
Why should people be able to make accusations and tell lies without fear of the thread being removed? I know mods can see them but they can't see everything so it's fair to allow member spamming.


I'm talking about threads which have nothing wrong with them - but even so just because someone doesn't agree with it, it doesn't mean it should be spammed. If they are returned then obviously they are ok so shouldn't have been spammed in the first place?
Is that not what the report button is for anyway?

Here's an example, thread by boothy (who I don't agree with a lot of the time) but because it was by him has been spammed.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/edit/watch-another-boothy-giveaway/960254

So what exactly is derogatory and insulting about that thread?

VB1's threads constantly get spammed and brought back, so if they are brought back they shouldn't have been spammed in the fist place

Edited By: colinsunderland on Jun 18, 2011 10:55
#17
colinsunderland
VB1's threads constantly get spammed and brought back, so if they are brought back they shouldn't have been spammed in the fist place


Thats not necessarily true. Just as a mod will quite often pull a thread or deal to check out the seller etc before reinstating, sometimes it is also not unreasonable to spam a thread to prevent potential problems if a user genuinely believes there is at least a reasonable risk. When a thread is returned, I'd imagine it is normally at least briefly checked over to make sure its acceptable (note they often have some comments moderated at this point)...
banned#18
jah128
colinsunderland
VB1's threads constantly get spammed and brought back, so if they are brought back they shouldn't have been spammed in the fist place


Thats not necessarily true. Just as a mod will quite often pull a thread or deal to check out the seller etc before reinstating, sometimes it is also not unreasonable to spam a thread to prevent potential problems if a user genuinely believes there is at least a reasonable risk. When a thread is returned, I'd imagine it is normally at least briefly checked over to make sure its acceptable (note they often have some comments moderated at this point)...

you only have to look in the wheres my thread gone thread to see the same threads being requested to be brought back time and time again. If there is a reason for them being removed temporarily then the mod should put a comment in saying posts removed/edited. But even so, unless it is grossly offensive then surely thats what the report button is there for, not spam the whole thread because of one comment?

As for if a member believes there is a genuine risk etc, fair comment, but I've never been asked by a mod why I've spammed a thread, so not sure how they know the reasons someone has spammed for?


Edited By: colinsunderland on Jun 18, 2011 12:00
[mod] 3 Likes #19
With the number of mods and helpers on the site why is it still necessary to have users police the boards anyway?

Might as well get rid of the helpers and just go back to mods in that case.
#20
colinsunderland
guv
colinsunderland
thesaint

colinsunderland

How come people misusing the spam button don't ever get infracted?


That would be an assumption. A wrong assumtption.


How many infractions have you had for doing it?
Considering how often the same peoples threads are spammed over and over again, if people were getting infracted I'm sure one of them would have mentioned it by now


Don't these "same" people's threads always contain inflammatory and derogatory comments over and over again towards other members? Maybe if that didn't happen anyone spamming would get infracted. I've certainly never been infracted for spamming, but then I rarely do so and when I do, it's for the right reasons!



deek72
fab_1
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".



whydo we need it


colinsunderland
thesaint
There is a need for it, so, "no".


for what?


Because there's a hardcore of members who don't know how to behave like dignified human beings, and their posts are derogatory and insulting, which is aginst HUKD rules.
Why should people be able to make accusations and tell lies without fear of the thread being removed? I know mods can see them but they can't see everything so it's fair to allow member spamming.


I'm talking about threads which have nothing wrong with them - but even so just because someone doesn't agree with it, it doesn't mean it should be spammed. If they are returned then obviously they are ok so shouldn't have been spammed in the first place?
Is that not what the report button is for anyway?

Here's an example, thread by boothy (who I don't agree with a lot of the time) but because it was by him has been spammed.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/edit/watch-another-boothy-giveaway/960254

So what exactly is derogatory and insulting about that thread?

VB1's threads constantly get spammed and brought back, so if they are brought back they shouldn't have been spammed in the fist place


There is nothing wrong in that thread and I agree it shouldn't have been spammed. I'm just saying there are a lot of threads with lies, insults and personal accusations which should be allowed to be spammed. And you say 'just because someone doesn't agree, it shouldn't be spammed' well what about if that person doesn't agree with slurs of a personal nature, and even involving members of that persons family, then he or she just has to leave it there, for all and sundry to be able to see?
I agree there are some that shouldn't be spammed but there should be provision made for circumstances similar to what I describe.
banned 1 Like #21
deek72

There is nothing wrong in that thread and I agree it shouldn't have been spammed. I'm just saying there are a lot of threads with lies, insults and personal accusations which should be allowed to be spammed. And you say 'just because someone doesn't agree, it shouldn't be spammed' well what about if that person doesn't agree with slurs of a personal nature, and even involving members of that persons family, then he or she just has to leave it there, for all and sundry to be able to see?
I agree there are some that shouldn't be spammed but there should be provision made for circumstances similar to what I describe.


but my point is, the whole thread shouldn't be spammed because one or two posts say something bad, they should be reported and the mods delete/infract, aparently mods are online pretty much 24/7 now so no reason why it can't be done.
Boothy's thread shouldn't have been spammed, yet it was, I'll bet no one who spammed it got infracted, pm's or anything, in fact I'm starting to think the mods can't actually see who spammed them. I'll also bet the eople who spammed it have spammed other threads by him too for no reason.
If the mods when returning the thread put something on like 'thread returned, xxx & xxx infracted for spamming I'll bet there wouldn't be half as many threads spammed for no reason.
Just look at all the times BG1 posted then they were spammed within minutes.
1 Like #22
colinsunderland

How many infractions have you had for doing it?


Just one a year or more back. I gave my reason in the thread for spamming it(a deal, not misc), and rayman didn't agree.

I used the "Contact Us" to appeal, and got a reply from "admin", who was in fact rayman.
I PM'd admin directly who said ( I paraphrase) it seemed unfair to be infracted, and said he would look into it. I am still waiting...

Despite that, I do think that the reason to spam by members should be there, and I can't see any reason strong enough to remove it.







colinsunderland

but I've never been asked by a mod why I've spammed a thread, so not sure how they know the reasons someone has spammed for?



So you spam threads, but believe that you shouldn't? Practice self control if that is the case.
If more people did this, then there would be no need for mods.
banned#23
thesaint

So you spam threads, but believe that you shouldn't? Practice self control if that is the case.
If more people did this, then there would be no need for mods.


I spam deal threads, and never been asked for reasons why. I report threads in misc if required and things are usually acted on within a few minutes if needed.
banned 2 Likes #24
as if by magic, spammed and brought back twice within minutes
http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/bg1-have-an-issue-with-oh/960634/
obviously ok as nothing seems to have been changed by mods, why should the people who spammed not be infracted?
#25
seconded considering they just spammed Emma's Mccan thread, Emma needs more 100+'s darnit!
#26
doesnt this constant spamming make more work for mods if someone has a problem with a certain post just report it
#27
Nailez
seconded considering they just spammed Emma's Mccan thread, Emma needs more 100+'s darnit!


That thread was pretty defamatory from what I saw of it, I don't think I'd keep it here if I was in charge...
#28
fab_1
doesnt this constant spamming make more work for mods if someone has a problem with a certain post just report it


No, it means less work for the mods, hence it's still possible to spam threads after numerous requests over the years to have the button removed.
banned#29
thesaint
fab_1
doesnt this constant spamming make more work for mods if someone has a problem with a certain post just report it


No, it means less work for the mods, hence it's still possible to spam threads after numerous requests over the years to have the button removed.


How do you know thats true?
Do you know how many are spammed and returned as opposed to how many are spammed correctly?
#30
colinsunderland


How do you know thats true?


thesaint

hence it's still possible to spam threads after numerous requests over the years to have the button removed.



colinsunderland

Do you know how many are spammed and returned as opposed to how many are spammed correctly?


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