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#2
well the site's motto is deal anarchy.......lmao
#3
A pound reduction is pretty good thing considering the older price of the game, so I suppose it's justified to make a new post to allow those members who only look at the front page to see it as hot (as the same thread won't be shown on the front page twice).
#4
[LIST]
[*]The game went out of stock (check the thread)
[*]Back in stock today at a lower price
[*]Hence the new thread.
[*]Same advise followed (pointed to you) as in the thread below (which you've conveniently decided not to quote)[/LIST][COLOR=#606420]http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/228023/bourne-conspiracy-xbox-360-17-99-de/[/COLOR]

Finally, You have too much time on hand to pick & stalk people who disagree with you. No more answers from me on this topic. ;-)
#5
To be fair, BristolDeal has got a point.

Let's give the original deal finder the recognition.

If updated posts for price reductions don't go back to the front page, then perhaps it's about time they did.
[helper]#6
I think the informal rule has always been that if a deal is expired and its been more than several days since it has expired then it is okay to re-post the deal as a new deal especially if the price has changed. A good example of this the Navigo GPS from Ebuyer which has been posted several times. I'm with Edi on this one but I think Edi's dig at BD is a little unfair......
#7
Gotta agree with Edi on this one - Back in stock at a different price - it deserved its own post.

Am sure Edi couldn't care less wether his deals get rated hot, cold and he gets rep or not.
#8
edi;2801208
[LIST]
[*]The game went out of stock (check the thread)
[*]Back in stock today at a lower price
[*]Hence the new thread.
[*]Same advise followed (pointed to you) as in the thread below (which you've conveniently decided not to quote)[/LIST][COLOR=#606420]http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/228023/bourne-conspiracy-xbox-360-17-99-de/[/COLOR]

Finally, You have too much time on hand to pick & stalk people who disagree with you. No more answers from me on this topic. ;-)


Charming - and I thought personal insults weren't allowed! But that's for another feedback thread eh?

edi (even though you're not going to answer this) - you failed to address many of my points, and totally ignored my example of the "tiger" thread where exactly what you claim shouldn't happen did happen.

Also no explanation as to why the older Xbox game thread was changed and unexpired and then changed back again - that just suggests to me that even the people running this site aren't clear on the rules. No explanation for my post in that thread being deleted for no valid reason.

Ironic that you chastise me for not quoting something, when you've pretty much ignored all my points. :lol:

EDIT: Decided to quote your post in case that gets mysteriously changed/deleted...
#9
Becksdawe
Gotta agree with Edi on this one - Back in stock at a different price - it deserved its own post.

Am sure Edi couldn't care less wether his deals get rated hot, cold and he gets rep or not.


Well I've just heated edi's post up just because some people are just too, ooh whats the word, bANAL about things
#10
trog0;2802118
Well I've just heated edi's post up just because some people are just too, ooh whats the word, bANAL about things


Thanks - really useful, great contribution to the discussion. :thumbsup:
#11
trog0
Well I've just heated edi's post up just because some people are just too, ooh whats the word, bANAL about things



he'll probably be getting in touch with ya soon, infraction for swearing :roll:
#12
BristolDeal
Thanks - really useful, great contribution to the discussion. :thumbsup:


What discussion all I read is someone moaning about trivialities. What does it matter if someone repost an expired deal when it becomes available again. Some of us only look at new deals and would therfore miss the unexpired one. do you complain when the same advert gets repeated on another channel. "Oh why are they repeating that I already have that advert recorded on my betamax tape no. b532/6r-18/06/2008" :p
#13
trog0;2802318
What discussion all I read is someone moaning about trivialities. What does it matter if someone repost an expired deal when it becomes available again. Some of us only look at new deals and would therfore miss the unexpired one. do you complain when the same advert gets repeated on another channel. "Oh why are they repeating that I already have that advert recorded on my betamax tape no. b532/6r-18/06/2008" :p


Fine, it doesn't matter to you - so move along, don't bother to get involved. Why waste your time? Let me waste mine how I like. :-D
#14
trog0
Well I've just heated edi's post up just because some people are just too, ooh whats the word, bANAL about things


owlass
he'll probably be getting in touch with ya soon, infraction for swearing :roll:


oops! must have hit capslock by mistake. What are the chances of that :-D
#15
BristolDeal
Fine, it doesn't matter to you - so move along, don't bother to get involved. Why waste your time? Let me waste mine how I like. :-D


No it does matter BristolDeal. When people are repeat posting continually with the same deal, I agree something needs to be done but, not when the deal has changed or expired. It obviously annoys you and I'm sorry about that, but, there are more important issues than that. Like people posting deal after deal for the same merchants sale when one thread would do. :)
#16
trog0;2802389
No it does matter BristolDeal. When people are repeat posting continually with the same deal, I agree something needs to be done but, not when the deal has changed or expired. It obviously annoys you and I'm sorry about that, but, there are more important issues than that. Like people posting deal after deal for the same merchants sale when one thread would do. :)


Well at least we agree on the point about the "one sale thread" :thumbsup::)

My major point really is that the rules aren't clear - and that's made worse by mods not even being clear themselves on what the rules are. How are we supposed to stick to them if the mods don't? All I want is clarification - but I'm not even being given that here. It may seem like I single out edi - but there's a simple reason - the other mods don't frequently bend and re-write the rules. It happened yesterday - one mod says Amazon deals should state the postage costs in the thread title - edi didn't do that, so I politely pointed that out, and what happens? Nothing. Rule ignored. :|

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231746

Ultimately, it's for the good of the site.

EDIT: And now I have pointed that other thread out, surprise surprise it gets changed. Just a shame it takes a thread like this to have to make it happen, isn't it?
#17
Whoops sorry, my bad.

It was removed anyway, top reporting!
#18
Please note these are not hard and fast rules, but guidelines and as stated in the 'Code of Conduct' moderators discretion will on occasion be used.

If an item price changes by a relative percentage of it's value and the thread is under one month old, a new thread is acceptable.

Any thread over one month old would be fair enough to receive a repost if there is a price drop or not, as this allows newer members to receive notification of that deal. With site membership increasing as fast as it is, that would become more significant for new users, as it would be unlikely for them to easily stumble across a month old thread.

However, some threads contain a lot of useful information about the product and whether a month old or not, those would preferably be better either pointed to in a new thread or the older thread updated.

Some guidelines for a repost are:

1] If the product has dropped in price by at least £1.00
2] If a thread is at least one month old.
3] If specific changes or information for a product has increased its value.
4] If the product goes out of stock, expired and you are unable to back order it, but it has been restocked within at least one week.

Some guidelines for updating a thread are:

1] If it is less than one month old and there hasn't been a significant or relative price drop of at least £1.00
2] If the information on the product changes to decrease its value.
3] Adding information to the original thread is deemed to be more beneficial to anyone who has already bought it.
#19
rayman;2803150
....
1] If the product has dropped in price by at least £1.00

...[snip]...

1] If it is less than one month old and there hasn't been a significant or relative price drop of at least £1.00


A small point but surely it makes more sense to consider things in terms of percentages rather than pounds - a price drop of £0.99 on something that was listed at say £1.25 is very much worth posting, likewise a price drop of £1 on a £500 computer isn't :thumbsup:.
#20
THANKYOU! :)

And don't worry, this isn't questioning it, but can you clarify what the difference is between an item price changing +/- £1.00, and an increase / decrease in value? I assume by the fact you've separated them that value doesn't equal price - so how do you define 'value'?
#21
jah128;2803188
A small point but surely it makes more sense to consider things in terms of percentages rather than pounds - a price drop of £0.99 on something that was listed at say £1.25 is very much worth posting, likewise a price drop of £1 on a £500 computer isn't :thumbsup:.


Good point - television models often get posted 10 times and don't change by more than about £50 between the lot of them. I guess the argument here would be expecting people to work out a percentage rather than just pounds and pence?
#22
jah128;2803188
A small point but surely it makes more sense to consider things in terms of percentages rather than pounds - a price drop of £0.99 on something that was listed at say £1.25 is very much worth posting, likewise a price drop of £1 on a £500 computer isn't :thumbsup:.

Yes and that's where moderator discretion will come in :)

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