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#1
Well, contact them, ask if they have ebay, if so whats there username, take a good look at there activity on there.
Collection if possible is the best option i think :)
1 Like #2
i have seen on a few forums a rating system similiar to ebay where after the sale has taken place buyers and sellers leave feedback then a little number in brackets next to name shows thier rating.

obviously everyone will be on 0 but then people who sell alot of stuff can build a little rapport up and people would be more trusting but i suppose the 0 rating people sum1s gotta trust so we are back to square1 lol!
#3
Remove the buy/sell section....

bit drastic but it solves the problem lol...

really though, you've gotta ask plenty of questions, maybe call them and decide if you think its genuine or not.

It's not this sites fault if people aren't being careful, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!
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i think a lot of people on these forums are to nieve and gullable. not saying its their fault as its obviously the conning b******s fault. But no matter what grilling we give etc, i think there will always be one trusting member ready to take a risk for a good deal. I think in future noone should buy anything until dinosteveus etc has done some checks, as he loves to help people and if he thinks its fishy then dont risk it. a seller should be happy to give dino any info he asks for, and if they hold back, then its fishy and should be a locked thread???

Also can mods/admin block IP addresses regestering to the site? as some scammers may come back with a different name etc?? i know they can be masked but if there not its a good way maybe?

Another good way maybe (in my opinion) is to have a name and shame thread? people that are PROVEN scammers, names in a thread , maybe a sticky in buy/sell forum? this may deter other scammers from taking the risk as to get their name on the list...

anyway theres my input...cheers for reading
#5
[COLOR=#8b0000]Please be advised, all buyers and sellers should satisfy themselves that either party is genuine by providing the following via PM to each other, as well as to Admin or Moderator:

1]Landline telephone number
2]Name and address including postcode
3]Valid e-mail address [no disposable addresses such as @gmail or @yahoo for example].[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#8b0000]4] Using PayPal then check out eBay feedback if there is any and make a small payment to and from each other to validate the PayPal e-mail address.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#8b0000]5] If possible, collect and pay for items in person[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#8b0000]Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#8b0000]This message is being inserted in all For Sale or Trade forum threads.[/COLOR]
#6
^^^ Those are the measures we are using in the meantime, until admin gets the chance to sort out a more permanent system.

I don't think we can block scammers' IPs, as sometimes lots of people have the same IP, say for example, from the same NTL exchange or something - so we'd run the risk of blocking normal members too.
#7
On another forum I use, the buy/sell section is only available to premium members.

To become a premium member you have to register address adn phone numbers etc.

Obviously this can still be overcome, but the smallish cost to register (as well as supporting the site) would deter some of the scamers.
#8
Verifying can be a good idea :thumbsup:

Most of us have either Gmail or Yahoo IDs for PAYPAL (certainly I do) and ignoring a seller / buyer based on this will deter many.

If the offer is too good to be true, probably it is :roll:
#9
At the end of the day, sensible people are gonna do all of the above or at least some sort of verification process... it's those who jump in on the threads where something does seem to be too good to be true that will get caught out the most, and if you post something at way below price, *someone* is going to take a risk of getting that fantastic bargain... and probably get caught out.

Thats just my opinion on it. If it sounds too good to be true, it is - but there are those who are willing to take the risk on the minute possibility that it really is the fantastic deal of the century.
#10
Maybe someone could act as a 'go between' who holds the money until the goods have arrived...A lot to take on and the person would have be to approved by admin/mods/members - just an idea
#11
dabbit
Maybe someone could act as a 'go between' who holds the money until the goods have arrived...A lot to take on and the person would have be to approved by admin/mods/members - just an idea


Dabbit :- such a person (whoever it is) must be regulated by FSA; its the Law ;-)
#12
Oh is it didn't know that...sorry
#13
I think it should be pick up only on things as anything else you could sell easily on other sites yes fees are a pain but at least it is safe I have been tempted by lots of phones but would never have brought one due to the fact i wouldn't know if they are trustworthy .
#14
Just to say i got taken for alot of money on ebay after all the checks i did came back good feed back was good (feed back can be pushed up easily so dont think its 100%) Even a company check on Experiance came back gud. Didnt stop them not sending the guds then disapearing into thin air ):. Alot of the time take your gut feeling its normally right.
#15
in my opinion i would suggest that people use ebay and not buy/sell on this forum because its been getting really risky in the last few weeks.

a shame though, because this forum used to be really friendly and trustworthy until these scammers came along!
#16
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]The reason people do not like using ebay is the fact of the fees and the waiting time.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]Sellers should pay a one off fee to be able to sell, via paypal, they should have a minimum amount of posts/time registered and also provide all their details to a nominated mod who can check them out.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]I think doing all the above will scare off potential scammers (hopefully)[/SIZE][/FONT]
#17
Velocity
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]The reason people do not like using ebay is the fact of the fees and the waiting time.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]Sellers should pay a one off fee to be able to sell, via paypal, they should have a minimum amount of posts/time registered and also provide all their details to a nominated mod who can check them out.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]I think doing all the above will scare off potential scammers (hopefully)[/SIZE][/FONT]


All excellent ideas, but, the scammers will always find a way round this!
Only other thing to do is possibly pay everything through credit card so your safe guarded.
#18
The main problem with the existing trading system is

Communication by PM

Communication by private message is probably the most useful thing for scammers. It allows them to scam numerous people at the same time and leaves no public paper trail. Often not even all the people who have been scammed will come forward, this allows the scammer time to move on and get away with it.

All communication should be kept on thread, futhermore, the moderators should be very strict about the rules, trading threads should be checked regularly and and all rule infringments should result in a trading ban of at least 1 week.


The main thing is to give the perception of a tightly run ship, this should deter scammers.

www.avforums.com have a successful trading system, the moderating there is very strict, but it works. It is possibly worth admin having a look at the trading rules in place over there for ideas.
#19
lawrenzini
...All communication should be kept on thread, futhermore, the moderators should be very strict about the rules, trading threads should be checked regularly and and all rule infringments should result in a trading ban of at least 1 week.

The main thing is to give the perception of a tightly run ship, this should deter scammers.

www.avforums.com have a successful trading system, the moderating there is very strict, but it works. It is possibly worth admin having a look at the trading rules in place over there for ideas.


That's the problem, this forum isn't tightly run and doing so would go against the happy-go-lucky feeling that is being maintained here.
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#20
lawrenzini
The main problem with the existing trading system is

Communication by PM

Communication by private message is probably the most useful thing for scammers. It allows them to scam numerous people at the same time and leaves no public paper trail. Often not even all the people who have been scammed will come forward, this allows the scammer time to move on and get away with it.

All communication should be kept on thread, futhermore, the moderators should be very strict about the rules, trading threads should be checked regularly and and all rule infringments should result in a trading ban of at least 1 week.


[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4]I agree, if all correspondence was openly posted people could see when the offer was accepted. Plus people should post when they have had a positive/negative experience.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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