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#1
Why did you ask by PM? why not just post in the thread? If you are asking if still for sale via PM, that could be an indication that you would be going to trade via PM which is against the rules...

oh, and No, this isn't a forum run by mods with a god complex, its a forum run by mods who know what they are doing! (Most of the time! :thumbsup:)
[mod]#2
The rules are there for a reason. Rather than mods with a god complex, are you sure you don't have one and think you are above the rules?
#3
well agree to disagree merely asking if something is still for sale is not an attempt to deal offering cash is an attempt to deal!
#4
Rules are there for a good reason :)

You're correctly 'warned' to make sure you dont repeat..
#5
fair enough still think its just plain silly when i had DS games for sale a month or so ago i got a few offers and enquiries via PM guess i just cant get my head round someone being so pedantic to be so offended by a PM enquiry they go to a mod all a bit childish IMO
banned#6
you takes your chances on here with everything, ive had loads of pms when i asked for something, i just pm'd back and said i dont deal by pm, didnt report anyone for it, there are messages all over the for sale boards, with i have pm'd you, same thing really but unless reported then nothing is said, we have a traders to avoid list where you will see people have been banned or have had a ban, not really up to date or spot on but if you have a look you will see the dealing by pm in their;-)

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34658
#7
but surely you see my point if people are saying PM'd all over the place and i send one PM asking if something is still for sale and a)the person is soooo offended rather than PM'ing me back he PM's a Mod b) the mods should start all this warning nonsense its a farce!
banned#8
clnmckec
but surely you see my point if people are saying PM'd all over the place and i send one PM asking if something is still for sale and a)the person is soooo offended rather than PM'ing me back he PM's a Mod b) the mods should start all this warning nonsense its a farce!

pm's, unless a deal has been made on the boards, is against HUKD rules, you sent, got reported for it, and got warned. The mods dont really read the for sale boards so unless posts are reported then they dont know about them
#9
PM'ing is not allowed until a deal has been done, it's quite a simple rule and is there to try and protect us from scammers.

I applaud the person that reported you, give me there name and I will leave them rep for helping the site to run better.

If you don't like it, trade elsewhere.
#10
just close the thread
#11
What is the length of time for a sale of item thread before it is considered dormant? After that time is it not sensible to PM a request (if the thread was not clear on the conclusion of the sale/trade) to ask if the item/s are still available for trade then begin a new thread dialogue?
#12
thesaint
PM'ing is not allowed until a deal has been done, it's quite a simple rule and is there to try and protect us from scammers.

I applaud the person that reported you, give me there name and I will leave them rep for helping the site to run better.

If you don't like it, trade elsewhere.

Bring back Neg rep and I'll leave YOU rep.:giggle:
#13
clnmckec
but surely you see my point if people are saying PM'd all over the place and i send one PM asking if something is still for sale and a)the person is soooo offended rather than PM'ing me back he PM's a Mod b) the mods should start all this warning nonsense its a farce!

I can see where you are coming from. I really don't understand why they reported you, unless there is more to it.
#14
Alfonse
What is the length of time for a sale of item thread before it is considered dormant? After that time is it not sensible to PM a request (if the thread was not clear on the conclusion of the sale/trade) to ask if the item/s are still available for trade then begin a new thread dialogue?


If it is not clear, then consider the item still available. Members should conclude the thread if it isn't. At worst they won't respond.

dinosteveus
Bring back Neg rep and I'll leave YOU rep.:giggle:


Neg rep was before my time, so don't fully understand it, so obviously don't miss it.

dinosteveus
I can see where you are coming from. I really don't understand why they reported you, unless there is more to it.


If it was me, I would report it because you don't know if the other person would blurt out something (As they usually do), and then you get a ban as well as them.
banned#15
Threads go up and down like toxic waste floating in an ocean here. I can understand why he sent a pm, more chance of it getting seen.

This site does nothing when someone loses money anyway, only a small number of members do. So why they are so pedantic I don't know.
banned#16
thesaint
If it was me, I would report it because you don't know if the other person would blurt out something (As they usually do), and then you get a ban as well as them.

why could you not reply with yes its still for sale but dealing by pm is against the rules, so please post in my thread and i will respond. Not everything needs to be reported, usually a word is enough:roll:
#17
sassie
why could you not reply with yes its still for sale but dealing by pm is against the rules, so please post in my thread and i will respond. Not everything needs to be reported, usually a word is enough:roll:


That's a better option, i've never sold anything on here, so it's easier to be idealistic.

There are rules, if everyone is allowed to pick and choose, we will end up like France, and no one wants that.
#18
thesaint
we will end up like France, and no one wants that.


IV. Racism, Religion, Sexuality:

Attacks on a person’s faith, race, colour, sexual preference will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of Admin and Moderators without prior warning to the offenders.

• A person’s religious, sexual or any other orientation in life should be respected at all times
• Any replies to a discussion on these topics must be respectful and constructive.

What exactly is wrong with France then?????
banned#19
yes i agree, but not everyone is aware of everything, i mean we have banned members on here that dont even know they are banned so carry on trading, i have had a few pm's when i asked for something, i just pm back saying its against the rules and to post, no biggie really. Like i said not veerybody reads every rule as soon as they join and to be honest i cant see why someone would report someone for pm'ing someone to ask if its still for sale:roll:
#20
Well I've got to hold my hands up here and say that I recently PM'd a member regarding an item they had offered for sale. I actually PM'd the member because they offered the item as a trade on a seperate thread and the trade was rejected. I wanted the item so I PM'd to ask if they were willing to sell.

In fact here's the PM
Hi !
I noticed on a thread that you offfered ****************** as a trade.
If you are interested in selling the **** can you please let me know including the price.
It's possible too that we could do a trade if you'd rather but I will have to wait until morning when our young man rises to know what if anything he has to trade.
I will of course buy/trade as per forum rules.


I'm posting this because I didn't think there was anything wrong in my approach and to be honest I still don't.
However in the light of recent events and posts this might need clarifying ??

I wasn't replied to by the way on the PM so no deal was done :(

Regards.
#21
Alfonse
IV. Racism, Religion, Sexuality:

Attacks on a person’s faith, race, colour, sexual preference will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of Admin and Moderators without prior warning to the offenders.

• A person’s religious, sexual or any other orientation in life should be respected at all times
• Any replies to a discussion on these topics must be respectful and constructive.

What exactly is wrong with France then?????


What has France got to do with Racism, religion or sexuality? :thinking:

Nothing is wrong with France, It is a piece of land that is not Britain, that's all.

I haven't had 'it' for a year, and i'm not as tense as you. :-D
banned#22
thesaint

I haven't had 'it' for a year, and i'm not as tense as you. :-D

:giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
#23
hottoshop
Well I've got to hold my hands up here and say that I recently PM'd a member regarding an item they had offered for sale. I actually PM'd the member because they offered the item as a trade on a seperate thread and the trade was rejected. I wanted the item so I PM'd to ask if they were willing to sell.

In fact here's the PM


I'm posting this because I didn't think there was anything wrong in my approach and to be honest I still don't.
However in the light of recent events and posts this might need clarifying ??

I wasn't replied to by the way on the PM so no deal was done :(

Regards.


You should've put it in the thread, and/or set up a 'Wanted' thread.
[mod]#24
I've said it before and i'll say it again.

The rules need to be applied to everyone equally or get rid of the For Sale forum completely. We need a help forum so that could replace it.
#25
JDeal
Threads go up and down like toxic waste floating in an ocean here. I can understand why he sent a pm, more chance of it getting seen.

This site does nothing when someone loses money anyway, only a small number of members do. So why they are so pedantic I don't know.

Agreed. This makes me so mad :x
#26
Syzable
I've said it before and i'll say it again.

The rules need to be applied to everyone equally or get rid of the For Sale forum completely. We need a help forum so that could replace it.

I don't understand the reason behind partial moderation of the FS forum when nothing is done when a scam happens.
I think it should be all or nothing. Only doing half the job is pointless.
#27
thesaint
What has France got to do with Racism, religion or sexuality? :thinking:

Nothing is wrong with France, It is a piece of land that is not Britain, that's all.

I haven't had 'it' for a year, and i'm not as tense as you. :-D


Err because France is populated by a "race" called the French which encompasses all of the above as a nation.
banned#28
Alfonse
Err because France is populated by a "race" called the French which encompasses all of the above as a nation.

oh alfonse dont take this off topic too:roll: behave yourself:p
#29
dinosteveus
I don't understand the reason behind partial moderation of the FS forum when nothing is done when a scam happens.
I think it should be all or nothing. Only doing half the job is pointless.


lol half deals uk
#30
Alfonse
Err because France is populated by a "race" called the French which encompasses all of the above as a nation.


France is not populated by a 'Race'. :thumbsup:

My comments could be taken as 'xenophobic', by someone who chooses to, but I think everyone apart from you took it in the spirit it was intended. :)
#31
thesaint
France is not populated by a 'Race'. :thumbsup:

My comments could be taken as 'xenophobic', by someone who chooses to, but I think everyone apart from you took it in the spirit it was intended. :)


oh please don't insult my intelligence.

Race - The term race describes an ethnic group, tribe, or other set of individuals descended from a common ancestor. It commonly serves to distinguish between populations or groups of people based on different sets of characteristics.
#32
thesaint
You should've put it in the thread, and/or set up a 'Wanted' thread.


Well I wouldn't be so rude as to hijack someones thread.
Possibly you're correct on the second bit but honestly where is the harm in this instance of sending a PM ?
banned#33
hottoshop
Well I wouldn't be so rude as to hijack someones thread.
Possibly you're correct on the second bit but honestly where is the harm in this instance of sending a PM ?

they meant you should have put it in the thread of the person who you pm'd:?
#34
sassie
they meant you should have put it in the thread of the person who you pm'd:?


I know, it wasn't their thread in the first place sassie. They offered something as a trade in someone elses thread, that was rejected, I wanted the item so PM'd the member asking if they would be prepared to sell or trade. If they had said yes I would have asked them to put it on the board as a post then we could have done the deal.
banned#35
hottoshop
I know, it wasn't their thread in the first place sassie. They offered something as a trade in someone elses thread, that was rejected, I wanted the item so PM'd the member asking if they would be prepared to sell or trade. If they had said yes I would have asked them to put it on the board as a post then we could have done the deal.

oh right, yeah i see, if youde asked on the thread someone would have had a go for hijacking the thread, yeah a hard one there, maybe a mod would like to explain on this sort of thing
#36
I hear you hottoshop, the concept of common sense is seriously lacking round here.
#37
Alfonse
oh please don't insult my intelligence.
:giggle:


Alfonse


Race - The term race describes an ethnic group, tribe, or other set of individuals descended from a common ancestor. It commonly serves to distinguish between populations or groups of people based on different sets of characteristics.


If you look at my profile, you will see that the picture there is of my son who is of dual-heritage, my grandparents/parents were all born in the Caribbean.

I'm a first generation 'Brit'. :-D

Suffice to say, I have learnt a lot about race during my years on this planet.

If you found I caused you offence then the 'community' thing to do is report my post (Click the triangle to the left) my post will be removed, and I have confidence that I will be suitably reprimanded.
#38
sassie
oh right, yeah i see, if youde asked on the thread someone would have had a go for hijacking the thread, yeah a hard one there, maybe a mod would like to explain on this sort of thing


What I meant is this:

hottoshop: Sorry for hijacking the thread OP, but 'Trader' I see you have a 'Gizmo' for sale, as the OP isn't interested, i'm interested.

'Trader': Yeah sure, I'll set up a thread of my own, apologies OP.



No drama. All above board and courteous.
#39
thesaint
:giggle:




If you look at my profile, you will see that the picture there is of my son who is of dual-heritage, my grandparents/parents were all born in the Caribbean.

I'm a first generation 'Brit'. :-D

Suffice to say, I have learnt a lot about race during my years on this planet.

If you found I caused you offence then the 'community' thing to do is report my post (Click the triangle to the left) my post will be removed, and I have confidence that I will be suitably reprimanded.


Look this is seriously off topic now, I'm not going into a race issue here, its about how I clearly used the word in the correct grammatical sense and by definition.

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