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banned#1
or just carry on educating people about how to use the expire/spam button
banned#2
sassie
or just carry on educating people about how to use the expire/spam button

Yup that's worked really well over the 2 years I've been here.... Its getting worse.

As it is, I think the expired/spam method is flawed. Not saying the above is in any way an answer, but I just think what we've got now is really poor.
banned#3
vibeone
Yup that's worked really well over the 2 years I've been here.... Its getting worse.


sorry vibeone but your post was hard work reading, i think i get the jist of what you mean but wasnt really sure what you mean, that probably makes as much sense to you as our post did to me, sorry
#4
but then some things will come up expired that arent..say ur looking for merchant x and its been a few weeks/months since deal posted....it will automaticaly expire.....

but i do agree with what ur saying.... im saying that anything 'not validated' for a bit of time shouldnt automatically be expired..has to have a certain number of 'not valids' to expire
#5
I actually see it as a good idea personally, there is a lot of politics that goes on around here regarding deals and the like, personally, if a deal is expired it should be because it has actually expired, not becasue someone wants to hoard the offers for themselves.



Mike..
banned#6
sassie
sorry vibeone but your post was hard work reading, i think i get the jist of what you mean but wasnt really sure what you mean, that probably makes as much sense to you as our post did to me, sorry

yeah I just wrote it out quick before I forgot what I was on about.

Basically... bit fat VALID button. users click it, if they dont - auto expired. if they do, it unexpires itself.
banned#7
magicbeans
but then some things will come up expired that arent..say ur looking for merchant x and its been a few weeks/months since deal posted....it will automaticaly expire.....

but i do agree with what ur saying.... im saying that anything 'not validated' for a bit of time shouldnt automatically be expired..has to have a certain number of 'not valids' to expire


oh in that case i was reading it right, as you have said things would show as not working when in fact they are, so no different to expired really, i thought i was reading it wrong
banned#8
the maybe the best idea for deal would have to e report it as expired and leave the mods to expire
banned#9
magicbeans
but then some things will come up expired that arent..say ur looking for merchant x and its been a few weeks/months since deal posted....it will automaticaly expire.....

but i do agree with what ur saying.... im saying that anything 'not validated' for a bit of time shouldnt automatically be expired..has to have a certain number of 'not valids' to expire


You are welcome to your opinion, and I'm not arguing with it, but I would point out that there are loads of deals that are expired, even though they really aren't - even right now.
banned#10
I think its a case of moving the wrongly expired period really.

Someone posts a laptop for £50... one per tesco store. Some fool ALWAYS expires it, and during that period, people would miss out.

Alternative: People validate it, and keep it active while the deal is popular. People then stop validating it as interest wanes, and yes it may be wrongly expired, but a higher percentage of people have made use of the deal, and not missed it due to it being expired by the selfish.
#11
sassie
the maybe the best idea for deal would have to e report it as expired and leave the mods to expire



yeh or u can always report to be un-expired, the other way seems complicated to me im quite new to this so could be wrong :oops:
banned#12
vibeone
I think its a case of moving the wrongly expired period really.

Someone posts a laptop for £50... one per tesco store. Some fool ALWAYS expires it, and during that period, people would miss out.

Alternative: People validate it, and keep it active while the deal is popular. People then stop validating it as interest wanes, and yes it may be wrongly expired, but a higher percentage of people have made use of the deal, and not missed it due to it being expired by the selfish.


but that would happen with your idea, if only one person gets from a deal then it was a good deal, your idea would still do the same really, whats a good deal for some wont be for others, and if not validated enough will go to expire so others miss out, mind this is why it annoys me when mods say to use the customise and exclude expired
banned#13
SABJ
yeh or u can always report to be un-expired, the other way seems complicated to me im quite new to this so could be wrong :oops:


Thats what happens now - and yeah in theory its a good idea, but there are 1) too many idiots expiring deals and 2) not enough mods to cover them all. So the selfish whiners get what they want - the deal is expired while the mods get round to it, while they go down to tescos and pick up their laptop/tv/soup.

sassie
but that would happen with your idea, if only one person gets from a deal then it was a good deal, your idea would still do the same really, whats a good deal for some wont be for others, and if not validated enough will go to expire so others miss out, mind this is why it annoys me when mods say to use the customise and exclude expired


Agreed, but the targets etc could be quite low, and you'd get a period when posting before the deal could be expired. There are exceptions, but I don't think many deals sit there with zero interest at all. A few clicks per half day would keep it 'active'
banned#14
I think there are easier ways than what you are suggesting, reporting a thread to be expired for one, making sure the deals section is always staffed is another, this site is about deals this should be the priority, mods 1st priority on this site should be dealing with things like this, or higher the amount of people it takes to expire a thread, have a can you expire this thread in feedback like the spam one

the new site was suppose to be so admin can personalise everything, yet everything suggested is no good, which makes ya feel like admin is happy with the way things are
banned#15
sassie
I think there are easier ways than what you are suggesting, reporting a thread to be expired for one, making sure the deals section is always staffed is another, this site is about deals this should be the priority, mods 1st priority on this site should be dealing with things like this, or higher the amount of people it takes to expire a thread, have a can you expire this thread in feedback like the spam one

the new site was suppose to be so admin can personalise everything, yet everything suggested is no good, which makes ya feel like admin is happy with the way things are

I agree - liek I said, i was just putting the idea out there for being to destroy really.

I agree report a thread for expiry - maybe the mods could trial that for a week?

The new site won't allow subforums or stickies either...
#16
Bad idea, and I am sure the mods wouldn't want to faff around expiring threads all day(other suggestion).

I am sure the time they spend fixing things now, is less time than they would spend implementing anything suggested here.
banned#17
thesaint
Bad idea, and I am sure the mods wouldn't want to faff around expiring threads all day(other suggestion).

I am sure the time they spend fixing things now, is less time than they would spend implementing anything suggested here.


im sure they dont want to "faff" around all day unexpiring them either, should that stop too :roll:
banned#18
thesaint
Bad idea, and I am sure the mods wouldn't want to faff around expiring threads all day(other suggestion).

I am sure the time they spend fixing things now, is less time than they would spend implementing anything suggested here.

Cheers for that useful and insightful post as ever Saint :) Hated online, hated offline. Times must be tough, so I'll let you off.
banned#19
The problem i see whith highering the amount of people needed for expiring is maybe the same will be for spamming, but with a thread dedicated in feedback maybe it would work, i suppose only way to know would be to try it
#20
thesaint
Bad idea, and I am sure the mods wouldn't want to faff around expiring threads all day(other suggestion).

I am sure the time they spend fixing things now, is less time than they would spend implementing anything suggested here.


Agree with first point, why would they want to spend more time on the forum they already spend some much time on. Wrongly expired threads can be reported, and fixed why would you want them to expire stuff for you, spam and expire are there to save time surely. If people can't follow the correct rules the admins can tell who expired and spammed the thread and take action if needed. Why make something simple more complex.
banned#21
Adam2050
Agree with first point, why would they want to spend more time on the forum they already spend some much time on. Wrongly expired threads can be reported, and fixed why would you want them to expire stuff for you, spam and expire are there to save time surely. If people can't follow the correct rules the admins can tell who expired and spammed the thread and take action if needed. Why make something simple more complex.

but they don't. Not quickly enough anyway. Not a complaint - just the way it is.
#22
sassie
im sure they dont want to "faff" around all day unexpiring them either, should that stop too :roll:


No, read my post, and you will see that I am not suggesting that they either stop or start anything.
I am saying that there workload is already high, why make it more? "rolleyes" back at ya.

Adam2050
Agree with first point, why would they want to spend more time on the forum they already spend some much time on. Wrongly expired threads can be reported, and fixed why would you want them to expire stuff for you, spam and expire are there to save time surely. If people can't follow the correct rules the admins can tell who expired and spammed the thread and take action if needed. Why make something simple more complex.


Exactly. If the mods wanted to receive multiple reports to expire a £2.99 DVD, they could disable the function of members doing so.
#23
vibeone
but they don't. Not quickly enough anyway. Not a complaint - just the way it is.


Reply pretty quick for me. If theres one online.

Though I can understand if you don't get a response.

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