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#1
Also, it should show non hot deals too. I don't think enough deals are truly becoming hot and I don't many people will bother searching through all the new ones but if we can specify the amount and have a minimum display of them in some kind of random order.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/search?action=advanced_search

You can set min/max temp here
[admin]#2
I think having the ability to drill deals by location is a good idea especially as members in a specific area could share with each other without cluttering the rest of the site. I have a task for this in our dev queue so it is on the board. Any more ideas on how to use this location or how it fits in the deal flow is welcome :)
[admin]#3
Which features are you thinking of dcx? Like showing deals by location?
[admin]#4
We are working on an update to the api so that mobile developers will have more info and options so maybe some of them will solve those. Also we will revisit the mobile site to get more logged in stuff on there. The location deals bit I can see if we can bump it up the priority list as I agree it could be useful.
#5
You don't think putting a few random non hot deals to members is a good idea too? Say minimum 2 per page of 12 with its own border so you can see it isn't part of the hot deals but its still just there to glance over and put hot or cold.

I think too many of these deals rely on 5% of the community and this would drive verification too as if it is a local deal then obviously it is best to firstly inform the local members first.

The way I see it is, all the hot deals have a redish border around them and the normals just get normal. This would be the default view and you could only change the amount of them randomly appearing per page from a preset of say 2 to 10 or whatever the case may be.

Then quickly adding a tab to the list to show only deals in location too for quick and easy access to offline content. Could even just put location as default to the location in the profile and to not only put location but the store too as a required field.

This could be a less intrusive way and more likely for me to check through deals which haven't got to 'hot' - though I would prefer the randomiser.
#6
Admin
I think having the ability to drill deals by location is a good idea especially as members in a specific area could share with each other without cluttering the rest of the site. I have a task for this in our dev queue so it is on the board. Any more ideas on how to use this location or how it fits in the deal flow is welcome :)


Would the "cluttering" also include clearance price-based deals that are often seen at one or two branches of certain supermarkets but seem to generate a high proportion of heat (until enough members post to say that they cannot find the same items at the same price at their own branch of the same retailer)?

With regards mobile integration, can the suggestion of localised deals be combined with some form of Global Positioning System [GPS] tagging of a mobile device so that deals can truly be tailored to a specific member's location?

That is, if a deal is listed as being at Tesco in Birmingham City Centre, & a HotUKDeals member had specified that their location was Birmingham in their profile &/or whilst using the mobile version of the site the actual location of the member's handheld device could be gained, then a dedicated page/summary view could present the deals available in close proximity.

Of course, some members may not wish to disclose their actual location either in text, or in an automated manner, so this would have to be an "opt-in" setting (with "opt-out" being the default).

BFN,

fp.
#7
fanpages
Of course, some members may not wish to disclose their actual location either in text, or in an automated manner, so this would have to be an "opt-in" setting (with "opt-out" being the default).


There IP Address can give away their city location anyway, I can understand not putting postcodes though.
#8
shadowdogg
fanpages
Of course, some members may not wish to disclose their actual location either in text, or in an automated manner, so this would have to be an "opt-in" setting (with "opt-out" being the default).


There IP Address can give away their city location anyway, I can understand not putting postcodes though.


well this site/folks location thing is useless(it says I'm in wakefield so unless thats just outside glasgow then I'm really not) so I wouldn't worry to much about it although bfn fp's suggestion of an opt in with the ability to put your correct location in would be a decent addition although I severly doubt in practice it would actually work due to people entering the wrong location when submitting a deal or as mentioned the automated location setting being wrong.
[admin]#9
I'm thinking when you click offline in the deal submit then there is a location field which is pre-filled by your IP but you can change it to any region/city/postcode. Then on the right side there is a list of your local deals according to your IP or you could change it anywhere else. The local deals could also appear in the regular deal flow with the area like [Sheffield] attached to the title. I guess there could be multiple locations also though for a deal.
#10
Admin
I'm thinking when you click offline in the deal submit then there is a location field which is pre-filled by your IP but you can change it to any region/city/postcode. Then on the right side there is a list of your local deals according to your IP or you could change it anywhere else. The local deals could also appear in the regular deal flow with the area like [Sheffield] attached to the title. I guess there could be multiple locations also though for a deal.


Just use the tag system in place for that? Tags can be used for location instead. It will automatically use them as its search function. Isn't like the tag system is really used anyway.

Edited By: shadowdogg on Mar 19, 2011 16:20
#11
you know the more I think about this location thing the more I think it wouldn't work, for example somebody posts that they found a ps3 for £100 instore at asda. now its a nationwide promotion but because they put the location down as croydon me up here in glasgow wouldn't spot the deal if I searched for glasgow deals, similarly if I searched for deals in govan would glasgow deals appear.

while in theory its a good idea I can't see it working in practice on hukds. I suppose you could always rip off the app that matt from heroes made and get actual retaliers etc to sign up and offer deals etc that way,

here's his app, http://getyowza.com/
#12
Why can't I search by retailer on the mobile site?
#13
ants97
you know the more I think about this location thing the more I think it wouldn't work, for example somebody posts that they found a ps3 for £100 instore at asda. now its a nationwide promotion but because they put the location down as croydon me up here in glasgow wouldn't spot the deal if I searched for glasgow deals, similarly if I searched for deals in govan would glasgow deals appear.

while in theory its a good idea I can't see it working in practice on hukds. I suppose you could always rip off the app that matt from heroes made and get actual retaliers etc to sign up and offer deals etc that way,

here's his app, http://getyowza.com/


I have no idea how many deals you have posted but it is extremely annoying when a good deal doesn't get the gratitude it deserves. Puts me off doing it and it makes the site messy when there is a really store specific deal which has no point being shown for everyone.

Also, you are looking at it far too narrowly. England may operate slightly different with locations than in Scotland. I think with England which happens to be the biggest part of the UK - no issues would arise at all.

Edited By: shadowdogg on Mar 19, 2011 20:13: update
#14
shadowdogg
ants97
you know the more I think about this location thing the more I think it wouldn't work, for example somebody posts that they found a ps3 for £100 instore at asda. now its a nationwide promotion but because they put the location down as croydon me up here in glasgow wouldn't spot the deal if I searched for glasgow deals, similarly if I searched for deals in govan would glasgow deals appear.

while in theory its a good idea I can't see it working in practice on hukds. I suppose you could always rip off the app that matt from heroes made and get actual retaliers etc to sign up and offer deals etc that way,

here's his app, http://getyowza.com/


I have no idea how many deals you have posted but it is extremely annoying when a good deal doesn't get the gratitude it deserves. Puts me off doing it and it makes the site messy when there is a really store specific deal which has no point being shown for everyone.

Also, you are looking at it far too narrowly. England may operate slightly different with locations than in Scotland. I think with England which happens to be the biggest part of the UK - no issues would arise at all.



I think you've put this in the wrong thread as I have no idea what any of this has to do with what I posted.
#15
ants97
I think you've put this in the wrong thread as I have no idea what any of this has to do with what I posted.


eh? This is my thread. So if you read my previous posts you would know exactly what I am saying and how it relates to your post.

Edited By: shadowdogg on Mar 19, 2011 20:55
#16
shadowdogg
ants97
I think you've put this in the wrong thread as I have no idea what any of this has to do with what I posted.


eh? This is my thread.


yeah but you quoted me and started warbling on about how much gratitude a deal does or doesn't get which has got nothing to do with any of my points and then the second part is just plain wrong.

It doesn't matter if its scotland england or wherever I just used that as an example. The same would apply if in my original example if you changed my location to newcastle and the orginal stayed as croydon. the point is still valid.
#17
ants97
shadowdogg
ants97
I think you've put this in the wrong thread as I have no idea what any of this has to do with what I posted.


eh? This is my thread.


yeah but you quoted me and started warbling on about how much gratitude a deal does or doesn't get which has got nothing to do with any of my points and then the second part is just plain wrong.

It doesn't matter if its scotland england or wherever I just used that as an example. The same would apply if in my original example if you changed my location to newcastle and the orginal stayed as croydon. the point is still valid.


England is fairly simple with locations which you can dissect it to as much as you want. Midlands -> East Midlands -> Nottinghamshire ->Nottingham -> Mapperley. You can keep going down as far as you want. It would just need to be segmented properly to the right amount.
#18
shadowdogg


England is fairly simple with locations which you can dissect it to as much as you want. Midlands -> East Midlands -> Nottinghamshire ->Nottingham -> Mapperley. You can keep going down as far as you want. It would just need to be segmented properly to the right amount.



your completely missing my point. if a guy posts a nationwide deal from asda yet puts the location down as midlands just because that was where he saw the deal, then everyone outwith the midlands would not see that deal even though its a nationwide deal. that is just one of the problems doing things by location throws up. the scotland/england thing is irrelevent.

Edited By: ants97 on Mar 19, 2011 21:20
#19
ants97
your completely missing my point. if a guy posts a nationwide deal from asda yet puts the location down as midlands just because that was where he saw the deal, then everyone outwith the midlands would not see that deal even though its a nationwide deal. that is just one of the problems doing things by location throws up. the scotland/england thing is irrelevent.


Fair point but nothing that can't be resolved. For example, the location thing doesn't have to be location only but the initial point of where the location was found as half of the time. The poster in the details doesn't even mention that crucial piece of information.

It could then just be 'downgraded' if the person isn't sure if its a nationwide deal to a hot local deal. At the minute, the current system doesn't allow this.

Simply saying something won't work is a pretty boring way of looking at things. The opera house shouldn't work - they made it work and I do think location could be a good improvement, if done right :)


Edited By: shadowdogg on Mar 20, 2011 00:39: kk
#20
I'm just going to throw my view into the ring...

I don't think the location based deals idea will work as people would miss out on great deals - how many deals have spouted from one shop reducing their products (eg the PSP deal I posted for £70 in my local morrisons where I got negative heat until Proof was gained from other people as everyone thought store specific - turned out it was the hottest deal of the week!)

Additionally - I think a deal shouldn't be able to go cold so quickly... I feel ashamed to say this but I posted the same deal as someone else did a month previously - I just made the deal 'clearer' and verified a few pieces of information with the company in question. The deal previously got to around -180* whereas as mine was again deal of the day.

Oh, and the mobile site is a pain to use - I just use the main site on my phones instead though and it appears to be alright...
#21
tomwatts
I'm just going to throw my view into the ring...

I don't think the location based deals idea will work as people would miss out on great deals - how many deals have spouted from one shop reducing their products (eg the PSP deal I posted for £70 in my local morrisons where I got negative heat until Proof was gained from other people as everyone thought store specific - turned out it was the hottest deal of the week!)

Additionally - I think a deal shouldn't be able to go cold so quickly... I feel ashamed to say this but I posted the same deal as someone else did a month previously - I just made the deal 'clearer' and verified a few pieces of information with the company in question. The deal previously got to around -180* whereas as mine was again deal of the day.

Oh, and the mobile site is a pain to use - I just use the main site on my phones instead though and it appears to be alright...


True but my main idea was just to use location as a way to randomly show new deals which have not even been voted for either way. As they are most likely the ones who are able to verify it. It was admin who said along the lines of less clutter.
#22
I don't think a search by location is very good either, for the reasons mentioned, i post a deal as seen in West Midlands and some don't see it.

I do think however that having a map of availability is a good idea, segment the country however you wish, Essex, Kent, Dorset, etc. and have a "SEEN IN" in the OP, have a drop down list and users can say seen in Hampshire, for example.

Local deals will stay local, and national deals will become known as the "SEEN IN" section fills up.
[admin]#23
I like the "seen in" idea. Maybe we could have the default setting is to show all deals regardless of location and if it starts getting used loads then you could filter out deals that aren't local to you unless they are over x degrees heat (or something like that).
#24
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NUFC4Life - Mar 02, 2010 14:39

Yeah sounds like a good idea, if there was a link similar to the expired and spammed ones where members could confirm a deal if they have been able to access it.

Deals could then show how many members have been able to take advantage of it e.g confirmed (56) if 56 members have clicked the link.

Might reduce the number of wasted phone calls / journeys for store specific deals.

fanpages - Mar 02, 2010 16:10

That's a good extension to my suggestion; two counters to indicate the number of people who confirmed & the number of people who could not confirm.

Again, this is open to abuse though as, for example; video game listings will attract a certain mindset of people who will try to discredit it regardless.

Maybe this approach should just be applied to "offline" deals & when "confirming" you could add the location of the store. This information would not be displayed initially, but you could opt to "drill-down" into the details of the number of confirmed sightings to see if a store near to you had the item.

Hmmm... in fact, you could add the store location, the date/time, & the number remaining.

I think we may be suggesting additional work for the HotUKDeals site programmers, but if it makes the site easier & more accurate to use then the work may be justified.

I'll hold-off posting to the "Feedback" forum for a while to give others a chance to comment & make better suggestions as they wish....


The rest of the thread has some further discussion.

BFN,

fp.
#25
Admin
I like the "seen in" idea. Maybe we could have the default setting is to show all deals regardless of location and if it starts getting used loads then you could filter out deals that aren't local to you unless they are over x degrees heat (or something like that).


I am presuming that shadowdogg's suggestion became the "Local Deals" panel we now see to the right of the Forum summary view.

Are there any plans to extend the suggestion to incorporate other ideas in this thread?

BFN,

fp.
#26
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