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#1
I don't think it really matters, apart from "sticky-beaking".

Have you got a reason for wanting the info made public? If someone has entered into a trade, they should have exchanged contact info anyway.
#2
thesaint
I don't think it really matters, apart from "sticky-beaking".

Have you got a reason for wanting the info made public? If someone has entered into a trade, they should have exchanged contact info anyway.


Yes but say you paid them and they got suspended immediately afterwards. That'd be quite worrying for the buyer.
#3
Hydromancer
Yes but say you paid them and they got suspended immediately afterwards. That'd be quite worrying for the buyer.


There's a flaw in that argument.
banned#4
thesaint
I don't think it really matters, apart from "sticky-beaking".

Have you got a reason for wanting the info made public? If someone has entered into a trade, they should have exchanged contact info anyway.


When a fs thread is locked i just think it would be easy to pop in a note to say op suspended for a day or whatever, its pretty obvious they have been suspended so adding for how long is hardly a biggie. It will stop members asking and yes i agree they should have exchanged details, but that doesnt always happen and yes they should of, but im sure to add how long they will be away will save members posting in misc to ask, save mods having to then pm members to tell them once they have removed their post
banned#5
the saint please dont turn this into a "you should have followed guidelines" thread, i have asked a simple question, in a positive way, if there is a reason this cant be done then fair enough
#6
lol@ "sticky-beaking"

no need for the length of suspension being added. I think if anyone posts in misc saying how long is xxx suspended for should also be suspended for not following the FS/FT guidlines...
#7
I think this is a good idea. I'm behind you all the way Sassie.
banned#8
donnydude
I think this is a good idea. I'm behind you all the way Sassie.


well thats two of us then :thumbsup:
[mod]#9
I agree with Sassie too. I just feel its unfair for people to lose out on money and whilst I am 110% of the opinion that they should read the fs/ft guidelines, it would make everyones life easier.
#10
magicjay1986
I agree with Sassie too. I just feel its unfair for people to lose out on money and whilst I am 110% of the opinion that they should read the fs/ft guidelines, it would make everyones life easier.


Could you explain how someone would lose money by a member they are dealing with being suspended?
[mod]#11
thesaint
Could you explain how someone would lose money by a member they are dealing with being suspended?


Someone doesnt follow the guidelines and sends £75 to someone for an item. That person is suspended and had no intention of coming back to the site or even selling an item. The member loses money. If "A" knows that "B" was banned is 3 days then they would know when to PM them...
#12
magicjay1986
Someone doesnt follow the guidelines and sends £75 to someone for an item. That person is suspended and had no intention of coming back to the site or even selling an item. The member loses money. If "A" knows that "B" was banned is 3 days then they would know when to PM them...


I am not sure if you have read through what you have written.

If "B" has no intention of coming back to the site or selling the item, then how is knowing that they are suspended for 1, 3, 7 etc days going to help. :thinking:
[mod]#13
thesaint
I am not sure if you have read through what you have written.

If "B" has no intention of coming back to the site or selling the item, then how is knowing that they are suspended for 1, 3, 7 etc days going to help. :thinking:


"A" will know when to check that persons profile to see if they have been back or if they are online instead of going on this site every 2 minutes and having no joy.
#14
thesaint
Could you explain how someone would lose money by a member they are dealing with being suspended?


magicjay1986
"A" will know when to check that persons profile to see if they have been back or if they are online instead of going on this site every 2 minutes and having no joy.


:? :thinking: :?

...Okay then.
#15
I think it's a good idea to have the time they're suspended for and why (only in FS/FT threads) - if I'm trading with someone and suddenly they're suspended I'd obviously be a bit concerned as I don't know why and for how long. While I'll have their contact details I may not be able to get a hold of them straight away however if it simply said on the thread 'user banned for one day due to swearing' then I wouldn't need to worry.

John
banned#16
thank you guys, i do believe this will help people, yes it maybe only a little something, but a little something that helps is better than nothing
#17
Johnmcl7
I think it's a good idea to have the time they're suspended for and why (only in FS/FT threads) - if I'm trading with someone and suddenly they're suspended I'd obviously be a bit concerned as I don't know why and for how long. While I'll have their contact details I may not be able to get a hold of them straight away however if it simply said on the thread 'user banned for one day due to swearing' then I wouldn't need to worry.

John


Lets say this system is implemented.

If they are going to scam you they are going to scam you, whether they are active, suspended or banned.

Why wouldn't you need to worry if they were only suspended for a day?
#18
Isn't doing this in breach of Data Protection, as being suspended & why is between the mods & the individual. & NO I haven't ever been suspended on here before. (or planning on being)
#19
thesaint;4572805
Lets say this system is implemented.

If they are going to scam you they are going to scam you, whether they are active, suspended or banned.

Why wouldn't you need to worry if they were only suspended for a day?


You're missing a crucial point here, there are many reasons why someone could be suspended which are nothing to do with scamming people - swearing in threads, bumping too many times, relisting a thread, dealing by PM etc. If someone has been suspended for a day due them attempting to bypass the swear filter in the misc forum during a deal then obviously I'm not going to be too bothered whereas if they're suspended for a month due to unresolved FS/FT issues where they haven't met their obligation then I'm going to be more concerned.

While it would be great if everyone carefullly read the rules that doesn't happen and there are accidental rule breaks daily therefore it would be very useful for buyers in the middle of a deal to know why their trading partner has suddenly been suspended. While you may have their contact details I wouldn't expect all sellers to be at their PC's 24/7 responding to every query.

John
banned#20
I didnt strat this thread as anything to do with scamming, just to do with a member being suspended for numerous reasons and entering how long their suspension id for, it will stop the threads in feedback from people asking how long so and so is suspended for, its mods adding one line, i didnt think it would be that difficult to implement, yes many dont follow the forum rules and implementing this will not improve that, i just thought it would be decent thing to do
#21
Johnmcl7
You're missing a crucial point here, there are many reasons why someone could be suspended which are nothing to do with scamming people - swearing in threads, bumping too many times, relisting a thread, dealing by PM etc. If someone has been suspended for a day due them attempting to bypass the swear filter in the misc forum during a deal then obviously I'm not going to be too bothered whereas if they're suspended for a month due to unresolved FS/FT issues where they haven't met their obligation then I'm going to be more concerned.

While it would be great if everyone carefullly read the rules that doesn't happen and there are accidental rule breaks daily therefore it would be very useful for buyers in the middle of a deal to know why their trading partner has suddenly been suspended. While you may have their contact details I wouldn't expect all sellers to be at their PC's 24/7 responding to every query.

John


If you have their details, what does it matter?


sassie
I didnt strat this thread as anything to do with scamming, just to do with a member being suspended for numerous reasons and entering how long their suspension id for, it will stop the threads in feedback from people asking how long so and so is suspended for, its mods adding one line, i didnt think it would be that difficult to implement, yes many dont follow the forum rules and implementing this will not improve that, i just thought it would be decent thing to do


So would the mods trawl through all the threads in the "For Sale/Trade" forum to post why they have been suspended?

Let's say they only posted in post#3 of a 56 post thread, does the mod write it in their post which is not going to be found by anyone?
banned#22
thesaint
If you have their details, what does it matter?




So would the mods trawl through all the threads in the "For Sale/Trade" forum to post why they have been suspended?


no, just the thread they are being suspended for would be a start, a last post and lock from a mod is easily spotted
#23
sassie
no, just the thread they are being suspended for would be a start, a last post and lock from a mod is easily spotted


It might not be their thread that they have been suspended in, so "No lock".
banned#24
thesaint
It might not be their thread that they have been suspended in, so "No lock".


when you click on someones username and threads by, its easy to spot a mods last post and lock, if a member is suspended then that thread should be locked, although they may get suspended for something other than the fs boards, maybe we should have a suspension list like the traders to avoid list - pmsl

it was an idea, i thought a good one, you dont, so will leave it there
#25
sassie
when you click on someones username and threads by, its easy to spot a mods last post and lock, if a member is suspended then that thread should be locked, although they may get suspended for something other than the fs boards, maybe we should have a suspension list like the traders to avoid list - pmsl

it was an idea, i thought a good one, you dont, so will leave it there


My solution = Get members details, and "Give them a call". :)
banned#26
thesaint
My solution = Get members details, and "Give them a call". :)


what to ask how long they are suspended for :?

I personally cant see what the big deal is, the mods wcopy and paste the rules, to copy and paste an extra line surely isnt that much work, when a shop is closed they ussually pop a note on the door
#27
sassie
what to ask how long they are suspended for :?


Well that's the information that you want posted "In the thread", so "Yes".

sassie


I personally cant see what the big deal is, the mods wcopy and paste the rules, to copy and paste an extra line surely isnt that much work,


So do they remove it when they are no longer suspended?

If they are suspended again on their return, one thread may say that they are suspended for a day, the new one may say 3 days. Or do the mods edit the first thread too?

sassie
when a shop is closed they ussually pop a note on the door


Yes, there is only one door to put a note on.
#28
thesaint;4576425
If you have their details, what does it matter?


As I've said twice already, I wouldn't expect sellers to be at a buyer's beck and call 24/7 as some people do actually have lives. It would be much more reassuring that rather than having to wait for someone to respond to my mail or voicemail if I knew what the suspension was actually for therefore I'll probably know whether I'm in the process of being scammed and shouldn't expect a reply or whether it's just a brief suspension with nothing to worry about.

John
#29
thesaint;4576607
My solution = Get members details, and "Give them a call". :)

Your solution completely ignores the fact that some people have jobs and other responsbilities aside from responding to queries from buyers.

John
#30
sassie;4576590
when you click on someones username and threads by, its easy to spot a mods last post and lock, if a member is suspended then that thread should be locked, although they may get suspended for something other than the fs boards, maybe we should have a suspension list like the traders to avoid list - pmsl

it was an idea, i thought a good one, you dont, so will leave it there


It is a good idea and it's just one person in this thread that's disagreeing with you.

John
#31
Johnmcl7
It is a good idea and it's just one person in this thread that's disagreeing with you.

John


There's only one opinion that matters, and that's Admins'.
If he likes it, it will be implemented, whether 1 person or 100,000 disagree. :)

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