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#1
Lets have a three strikes and out for people who repost the same deals
1 Like #2
I am fairly new to all this and would hate to fall fowl of any rules and regs, so i suggest that we could have a system in place where after the "three strikes" rule was implemented then the poster would have membership suspended until he had downloaded a PDF of the rules,and agrees that having read the rules/regs( short test?) the suspension is lifted,with perhaps a probationary period to follow. I shall now go for my crash helmet!
#3
"i shall now go for my crash helmet"

LOL:w00t:
#4
We have been getting a lot of deals with no links, prices, retailer names in titles etc. While these things are not compulsory, they are just the way things are done round here.

Personally, I think it is excellent that newbies are soooo keen to post.... but I always point out the help threads, as I'm sure others will read them too.

All we can do is encourage people, and whenever you feel a deal post could do with a little extra info, feel free to point it out in the thread. Such as, "hi, thanks for the post. We usually put the price and retailer name in the title too though, if you wanted to add that in. Thanks." I've seen some of the established members doing this kind of thing, and the newbies have been thankful for the help.

Plus, the members with high enough rep can add to others deals, so you can add a description if needs be :)
#5
your putting 'newbies' off joining the site with rules like that

it would be interesting to see how many duplicate deals have been posted by 'newbies'

thanks emma -
#6
holly100;1694132
your putting 'newbies' off joining the site with rules like that

it would be interesting to see how many duplicate deals have been posted by 'newbies'

thanks emma -

No one stated a rule, it was suggested along with emma`s point of highlighting a fault and to show the correct method. This was to put forward as a discussion to correct a recurring fault, in my view, I was perhaps to specific by stating "newbies" but in my defence the sat nav deal although in the table for a "hot deal" kept being posted last week yet you are advised to check if the deal is posted!! I also raised the point of some deals not really being deals posted and the inclusion of vouchers completely out of date, not specific to an area or person but out of date.
#7
Give it a rest, thats why they are called newbies. Why dont you give something back and help out a fellow human being.

Although Im sure they with never come up to your exacting standards
#8
tonyd19565
I also raised the point of some deals not really being deals posted

Vote them cold then. Problem solved.
#9
onion;1695789
Vote them cold then. Problem solved.


Not really a solution that falls in line with the forum etiquette we try to foster. If you're not interested in a deal, don't vote on it. If you do feel the need to vote cold, please try to pop a brief note in the thread as to why.
#10
You were all newbies once - give us a break
#11
I have been trying lately to let people know if their thread is a duplicate or they've missed something out. Most of the time people are fine with it, but there have been a couple who have been downright nasty when all you're trying to do is help!

But despite my own whinging about what goes on here at times, I'm at least trying to help others improve. Ooh, I'm like 'enry 'iggins.
#12
pcfairs;1695654
Give it a rest, thats why they are called newbies. Why dont you give something back and help out a fellow human being.

Although Im sure they with never come up to your exacting standards

Exacting standards!! asking to debate a problem I suppose if I had written about benefit fraud we would have a stack of replies a mile long. I for one do not wish to see this site diminish as I have had some great benefits and get annoyed at the constant bickering when ideas are put forward or asked for.
As for your "Help out a fellow human being" Do you know if I have helped people? Do you know if I have not helped people? Or is your sarcasm a form of answer?
Insults are an easy way of evading issues
#13
BristolDeal;1697958
But despite my own whinging about what goes on here at times, I'm at least trying to help others improve. Ooh, I'm like 'enry 'iggins.


Yes, I have noticed some of your helpful constructive comments in deal threads lately, much appreciated :thumbsup:
#14
emmajk42
Yes, I have noticed some of your helpful constructive comments in deal threads lately, much appreciated :thumbsup:


Surely you jest? :w00t:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/155535/huggies-super-dry-size-4-value-box-/showthread.php?t=155535

BristolDeal
I voted cold because it's Tesco. I automatically vote cold for any Tesco deal, regardless of what it is. As is my right to do so. :)
#15


Your vendetta against me is getting boring... Now pick some of the comments where I have helped people out. Emma isn't going to say something like that for no reason, is she? :roll:
#16
BristolDeal
Your vendetta against me is getting boring... Now pick some of the comments where I have helped people out. Emma isn't going to say something like that for no reason, is she? :roll:


Vendetta? Please.
#17
Well okay, "stalking". Second time today you've popped up in a feedback thread just to have a go at me. ;-)
#18
BristolDeal
Well okay, "stalking". Second time today you've popped up in a feedback thread just to have a go at me. ;-)


For someone who votes members deals cold only because you don't like Tesco, you are very sensitive.

I am not aware of me having a go at you earlier, but I will apologise anyway.
#19
Guys, stop picking on each other.

I was serious.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/154158/buy-1-get-1-free-3-pack-mini-filled/?p=1679968#post1679968
There's more... I cannot be bothered seaching, he posts a lot!
#20
Hardly anyone seems to add tags anymore, the amount of deals I've seen, but can't then re-find by searching is incredible. When I do eventually find them the 'tags' field is usually completely empty. Hence I presume why so much reposting of deals goes on.
Can't we make adding some tags compulsory?
#21
Admittedly there can be a few dupes, but many times that can be a simple mistake to make, I have also noticed (as pointed out in the OP) that there seems to be an increasing number not giving a direct link to items (or if they have, putting it in the description instead of the appropriate box), but I'm sure if it is calmly explained in replies, then people will indeed learn, and not make the same mistake in future.

As somebody else said, we were all newbies once!

Regarding tags, I admit that I am guilty of that too - maybe making that field compulsory (only if it's a Deal/Voucher/Freebie post though) would be a good idea - though it is possible that it may confuse a few people about how to correctly enter tags.
#22
I find it odd sometimes that there are so many duplicates, because when you choose the retailer, it shows you a list of recent deals. So many of the duplicates are things that have appeared in the past couple of hours, that I guess people just plough on and don't look what they're doing.

I think it's up to all members to point out these errors to help others. :)
1 Like #23
I am a 'newbie' and having sat back and jut read through threads and deals etc, I have been too scared to post anything on threads let alone attempt posting a deal.

I have attempted to post a deal today however and I managed to mess it up!!! lol!

I have just started adding things to threads now and while no one's has 'had a go' at me yet - (as I have seen in many threads) - no one's been particularly welcoming either

And I've probably got all the HUKD lingo wrong too!!
#24
Tintern1981

I have attempted to post a deal today however and I managed to mess it up!!! lol!


Welcome to HUKD Tintern1981. :)

Have you read the thread on how to submit deals?
If you look further up in this thread, there is a link to it in "emmajk's" signature.

You can then see if you can edit your deal to add a picture. :)
#25
Thanks saint, although I've tired what Emma says and I still can't do it! Never mind - it was a rubbish deal on reflection anyway - I'll wait until I find a good one and try again :)
#26
As much as I try pretty much all the deals I have posted recently (since the site change) have been duplicates. I do search, and also keep an eye on recently posted but still somehow manage it. I think it maybe down to the search function being reasonably vague.

My most recent mistake, (that TheSaint quite rightly spotted) was a repost of Family Guy Season Six from HMV. However as it was posted a week ago (the original deal) it must have been so deep in the forums that I couldnt find it on the first few pages of results.

Maybe an ablity for mods to merge deals, so the repost actually becomes a bump to the existing deal instead of being completely in vain. At this point really I don't think I will bother posting any more deals as more than likely I have been beaten to it! :(


Edit: Just did a test search, type in family guy into the search box above, then filter to deals... hardly just family guy deals is there???!!!
#27
I agree that the basic search function is nigh on useless, and the best way to find what you're looking for is by using the Advanced Search - then you can look for a specific word in the thread title, but more importantly narrow it down to the retailer too, and even a date range.

Of course it doesn't help if the OP has made a mistake in the thread title, as I discovered whilst looking for the Heroes HD-DVD deal I remembered, only to find it had been posted as "Heores". :giggle:
#28
megamoo,

Have a read of emmajk42's signature for tips on searching. By putting +family +guy into the box, your thread is the 1st result found, and the original thread is the 5th.



I prefer advanced search

I just used it and put +family +guy, and searched "Deals" and I left everything else the same.

Your thread was the 1st result, and the original deal was the 2nd result.
#29
People need to help rather than moan - explain the best way of doing things, encourage, help, advise not whinge at people that dont know any better. If some of the more senior members here put as much effort into helping newcomers as they do belittling and jobsworthing newbie deals then things would be a lot easier.

People put a lot of effort into posting deals and there is nothing worse than having some internet hero telling them it's already been posted. We were all newbies at some point (well I still am), some of the hostility being shown toward new people is simply not called for and it must make people think twice about joining or posting deals.
#30
Ritchie, you seem to have a real chip on your shoulder today. All I'm trying to do (and let's not pretend your post is due to anything other than the criticisms you were levelling at me earlier today) is help people post better deals, or post them in a more helpful manner.

Perhaps you think it is okay to have a disorganised, cluttered forum with repeated posts, deals with missing or inaccurate information and spam, but personally I don't. It makes it a worse experience for everyone using the site, not just newbies, and I think that is far more likely to put people off using it than some of us trying to help out.
#31
My post generalises, it's not directed at anyone in particular - I dont want to see a messy forum, however those trying to 'help' should actually 'help' rather than just pointing out the clearly awfull crimes they have committed.

If your going to go to the trouble of being effectivley an unlicenced site mod then do it in the spirit that the site mod's do it which is in a polite and cnstructive manner. There must be whordes of newcomers turned away or too scared to post deals, most newbie deals involve the user pleading not to be ripped apart in the deal text, I think that speaks volumes.
#32
Well at least your second paragraph has the balls to be honest to direct it at me. But you make it sound like every newbie is leaped upon like fresh kill and forced out of the site crying. There are LOTS of sections designed to help newbies post deals - unfortunately a lot of them don't bother to read them first. A few times I've pointed out that a deal has been posted elsewhere - no criticism, no harsh words, just a simple statement with a smile - and get a nasty response back.

Is it my fault people don't follow instructions? Is it my fault they can't take 2 minutes to check whether a deal has already been posted? No. People can get lazy when it comes to posting on forums like this, they don't take the time to do it properly, or maybe they just don't know how. But pointing out their errors is not a bad thing to do if the end result is people making better posts. And if there are newbies who don't like being told how to post, or what the general etiquette of the forum is, then the forum is better off without them.
#33
According to the mod's if you feel a deal is a duplicate or is missing vital information the you should report it, perhaps that is a better way of doing things? I dont know.
#34
Perhaps, but it's often quicker if others point it out - after all, some of us are able to edit deal posts as well. It saves the Mods time too. Clicking the Spam button also brings duplicates to the attention of Mods.
#35
Point out, then explain the best way of doing things in the future and link to the duplicate post as required or link to FAQ's covering the mistake.

Doing that will give you a far better chance of getting people to understand the way things work, and putting your advice into action next time they post a deal.

Going into newbie deals and saying 'already posted' only serves to annoy the person who has just spent 10 mins posting that deal.
#36
Yes, which is why I tend to say "Sorry, this has already been posted", provide the link, and then something along the lines of "It's helpful if you do a quick search before posting a deal in case someone has got there before you." This is often followed by the OP saying the search facility is ****, and me agreeing. :-D
#37
Well I have to agree with you on that, the sarch facility is pish. ;)
#38
tonyd19565
Exacting standards!! asking to debate a problem I suppose if I had written about benefit fraud we would have a stack of replies a mile long. I for one do not wish to see this site diminish as I have had some great benefits and get annoyed at the constant bickering when ideas are put forward or asked for.
As for your "Help out a fellow human being" Do you know if I have helped people? Do you know if I have not helped people? Or is your sarcasm a form of answer?
Insults are an easy way of evading issues


I see you evading answering your own questions. lets face it this rubbish post is certainly c**** compared to any newbies post.
#39
BristolDeal;1718379
Clicking the Spam button also brings duplicates to the attention of Mods.


Not really BristolDeal ... it's the report button which flags things for us. Clicking the spam button just removes the post from the forum (if enough people click it) :)
#40
emmajk42;1719943
Not really BristolDeal ... it's the report button which flags things for us. Clicking the spam button just removes the post from the forum (if enough people click it) :)


Oh right, I thought it appeared on a list for you somewhere and you removed the thread! :oops:

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