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banned#1
Thread spoiling is not permitted, however can you please refrain from any further trading posts until we approve. We appreciate the fact that members look after each other in the trading forums and you got off to a bad start regarding linked id's and false feedback relating to this account.

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Edited By: aScottishBloke on Nov 29, 2010 06:49: format
banned#2
oh the irony!

Well done mods on finally preventing this scammer from trading!

Edited By: csiman on Nov 29, 2010 06:04
[mod]#3
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_REkgXByDyuU/SV-IfhTVlDI/AAAAAAAACHE/lgp_HpEbHMM/s400/irony1.jpg
#4
People questioning your motives in trade, poor show from you old chap.
1 Like #5
its not thread spoiling to point out to other members that you have used multi ids and fake feedback-its watching out for other community members.gotta laugh at the nerve of a scammer complaining about people pointing out to other members that they are dishonest.
6 Likes #6
I still can't believe the op wasn't given a full site ban. I think creating multi id's is enough to warrant one anyway but to then use them to gain fake feedback surely merits a full site ban nevermind a trading ban.

it beggars belief when you consider what other users have been given trading bans for that this member was allowed to trade again and create threads asking how to remove the offending evidence. staggering.
1 Like #7
ants97
I still can't believe the op wasn't given a full site ban. I think creating multi id's is enough to warrant one anyway but to then use them to gain fake feedback surely merits a full site ban nevermind a trading ban.it beggars belief when you consider what other users have been given trading bans for that this member was allowed to trade again and create threads asking how to remove the offending evidence. staggering.

ABOLUTELY AGREE! creating multi ids in trading section has ONE purpose-to defraud and cheat us all! I have said time and again all accounts should be banned in such cases-ops "stocking filler" thread with TWENTY items in it is CLEARLY an attempt to build feedback and then go in for the kill with bigger items later on-its a classic scammer tactic-how the op is still able to have an account here beggars belief!
#8
barky
ants97
I still can't believe the op wasn't given a full site ban. I think creating multi id's is enough to warrant one anyway but to then use them to gain fake feedback surely merits a full site ban nevermind a trading ban.it beggars belief when you consider what other users have been given trading bans for that this member was allowed to trade again and create threads asking how to remove the offending evidence. staggering.
ABOLUTELY AGREE! creating multi ids in trading section has ONE purpose-to defraud and cheat us all! I have said time and again all accounts should be banned in such cases-ops "stocking filler" thread with TWENTY items in it is CLEARLY an attempt to build feedback and then go in for the kill with bigger items later on-its a classic scammer tactic-how the op is still able to have an account here beggars belief!

I guess it's not up to ASB to decide, though JB should quite clearly back this opinnion.
#9
Pure over re-action! 'Scammer' im in college for God sake why would i want to scam people, i dont own anything expensive i just own alot of stuff ive never used and bought for the sake of it and thought i would use it, so can you stop trying to depict who i am and what my intentions are, scammer's don't have ebay accounts with possitive feedback and no negative, why would i bother to scam people and get in trouble for it
1 Like #10
isamaramendonca
Pure over re-action! 'Scammer' im in college for God sake why would i want to scam people, i dont own anything expensive i just own alot of stuff ive never used and bought for the sake of it and thought i would use it, so can you stop trying to depict who i am and what my intentions are, scammer's don't have ebay accounts with possitive feedback and no negative, why would i bother to scam people and get in trouble for it

Why would you create false feedback? Bit Ironic to claim to be a victim of your own doing?

What has your status on ebay got to do here nor your status in life.
#11
cuase i was impatient, ive explained everything
cuase if i was such a scammer i would have scammed ebayer's to and no way im claiming to be some sort of victim
#12
isamaramendonca
cuase i was impatient, ive explained everythingcuase if i was such a scammer i would have scammed ebayer's to and no way im claiming to be some sort of victim

Well don't give us the satisfaction of the replies your giving, people have a right on here to defend what they see as a potential scammer, Impatience in my eyes is not a good enough excuse for any sort of disrespect of the feedback system, I would be suprised if this ban is lifted. Also don't be shocked if for some reason the ban is subject to a lift that people on here now watch your threads closely and ask for a full site ban.

You have to understand it from other peoples points of view, do you see what you have done as trustworthy activity, and would you also see from other peoples points of view what current scamming technics are used. If I was you I would take a step back and wait for a mod response, your not doing yourself any favours with the community.
banned 3 Likes #13
isamaramendonca
Pure over re-action! 'Scammer' im in college for God sake why would i want to scam people, i dont own anything expensive i just own alot of stuff ive never used and bought for the sake of it and thought i would use it, so can you stop trying to depict who i am and what my intentions are, scammer's don't have ebay accounts with possitive feedback and no negative, why would i bother to scam people and get in trouble for it


hey just so you know, I think you're a scammer too, and I will risk ban hammers just to make everyone know you're a scammer everytime you try and sell anything. I will threadspoil every thread you make, knowingly breaking the rules.

basically I will make your HUKD life hell, and you can be sure you won't scam anyone else here.

Suggest you try elsewhere.

LOL.

Edited By: vibeone on Nov 29, 2010 11:06
#14
isamaramendonca
cuase i was impatient, ive explained everythingcuase if i was such a scammer i would have scammed ebayer's to and no way im claiming to be some sort of victim

impatient?? so you cheated then? plain and simple,no argument-you tried to cheat the system,therefore you are a scammer-there is NO argument-nobody here with any sense will EVER deal with you-I dont care what explanation you want to give for creating false info-you are a liar-end of story! And like others,I will expose you as a liar in any for sale thread you create if the mods ever let you trade on these boards again.People who create false feedback,are NOT welcome here-we are a community-we look after each other-you INSULT the people who have taken the time to build up honest and trustworthy feedback,but you dont seem to realise that. DO ONE!
#15
I see the op is still trying to trade despite being told not to. Can't believe op can't see anything wrong with their actions. Should be banned for good
banned 1 Like #16
stewby
I see the op is still trying to trade despite being told not to. Can't believe op can't see anything wrong with their actions. Should be banned for good


Where is she trying to trade?

Difficult one, because although I hate scammers, she looks kinda hot. I'll keep telling myself its probably a bloke to ease the pain :)

Her/it's profile says: "Some people on here must be very bored to thread spoil and delete there comment and mine to post the same thing again! "

What?
1 Like #17
vibeone
stewby
I see the op is still trying to trade despite being told not to. Can't believe op can't see anything wrong with their actions. Should be banned for good
Where is she trying to trade?Difficult one, because although I hate scammers, she looks kinda hot. I'll keep telling myself its probably a bloke to ease the pain :)Her/it's profile says: "Some people on here must be very bored to thread spoil and delete there comment and mine to post the same thing again! "What?

seems they are now BUYING small value items,which will of course bump the feedback up and will therefore look good to unsuspecting members-I am increasingly astonished that this account is still active-arent we meant to be protected from potential scammers?
banned#18
barky
vibeone
stewby
I see the op is still trying to trade despite being told not to. Can't believe op can't see anything wrong with their actions. Should be banned for good
Where is she trying to trade?Difficult one, because although I hate scammers, she looks kinda hot. I'll keep telling myself its probably a bloke to ease the pain :)Her/it's profile says: "Some people on here must be very bored to thread spoil and delete there comment and mine to post the same thing again! "What?


seems they are now BUYING small value items,which will of course bump the feedback up and will therefore look good to unsuspecting members-I am increasingly astonished that this account is still active-arent we meant to be protected from potential scammers?


Must.Push.Fo.Lk.Site.

Repeat to fade.
#19
Reported and informed OP, as far as I can see the ban was a full FS/FT ban until further notice.
#20
Adam2050
Reported and informed OP, as far as I can see the ban was a full FS/FT ban until further notice.


Yep unless she's been approved in which case this place really needs to have a word with itself.
#21
ants97
Adam2050
Reported and informed OP, as far as I can see the ban was a full FS/FT ban until further notice.
Yep unless she's been approved in which case this place really needs to have a word with itself.

ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.
#22
Adam2050
[quote=ants97]
ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.


why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.
[mod]#23
ants97
Adam2050
[quote=ants97]
ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.


why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.


I think that is the issue here..........those above call the shots.
#24
ants97
Adam2050
[quote=ants97] ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.
why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.

Don't think it's up to him, there's no direct rule on this sort of behaviour and I think it's up to the higher mod's to decide (Guessing JB).
2 Likes #25
ants97
Adam2050
[quote=ants97] ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.
why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.

ASB is VERY GOOD at rooting out scammers and protecting everyone here-I suspect there is some underlying reason why this is awaiting review-would be very surprised if pending that review this account is allowed to remain-op has even openly admitted creating false feedback-what more evidence do the powers that be need exactly? I dont blame ASB,surely his track record shows that there must be something stopping him from banning?
#26
barky
ants97
Adam2050
[quote=ants97] ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.
why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.
ASB is VERY GOOD at rooting out scammers and protecting everyone here-I suspect there is some underlying reason why this is awaiting review-would be very surprised if pending that review this account is allowed to remain-op has even openly admitted creating false feedback-what more evidence do the powers that be need exactly? I dont blame ASB,surely his track record shows that there must be something stopping him from banning?

Indeed.
banned 1 Like #27
The OP received a suspension for linked accounts and feedback relating to self. However I didn't place a full time trading ban on the member as they can't always be held responsible for others. It did seem that there was more than one party involved. That said, the OP was less than convincing when an explanation was received as such a trading ban has been implemented. The member has since been advised that this applied to buying as well as selling.

I'm not persuaded by any facts that there was an intention to scam, albeit a definite attempt to manipulate the feedback system was attempted. Hopefully this was just a foolish attempt by the OP to gain credibility and for no other reason than that.

I've not needed to refer this case for review. As above, I needed to review the facts and reserve judgement until I was happy with all info at hand. Should I have had evidence or sufficient cause to expect an unsafe trade was about to take place, I'd have had no hesitation in banning and worrying about reinstating later if I'd made an error.

We'll review again in due course.
banned#28
Adam2050
ants97
Adam2050
[quote=ants97] ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.
why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.


Don't think it's up to him, there's no direct rule on this sort of behaviour and I think it's up to the higher mod's to decide (Guessing JB).


When it comes to the FS board... What ASB says, pretty much goes.
#29
I think there needs to be some sort of identifcation only labelled in FS/FT threads (BFT, banned from Trade) icon on users posts when in the FS/FT as a seller we cannot always dertmine if they are banned from using the system as the OP of the thread I reported she was unaware through no fault of her own. The embarisment of posting with such a tag would be a deterant alone.

Edited By: Adam2050 on Nov 29, 2010 13:22: .
#30
vibeone
Adam2050
ants97
Adam2050
[quote=ants97] ASB responded to the thread in question specifically telling her she was banned from buying and selling. Feel sorry for ASB atm.
why? If he'd nipped this in the bud and banned her straight off then we wouldn't have had all this nonsense. The only way I'd have any sympathy for him is if he doesn't have the authority to ban her or is being expressly told not to ban.
Don't think it's up to him, there's no direct rule on this sort of behaviour and I think it's up to the higher mod's to decide (Guessing JB).
When it comes to the FS board... What ASB says, pretty much goes.

99% of the time I'd agree with you but if ASB wants to review certain things he can't do it alone, either way the right outcome has happened and ASB is satisfied with the uers intent.
1 Like #31
so you will more than likely get banned for manipulating the voting process on this site by creating mulit ids and voting your own deals hot or send a few pms urging your online buddies to vote it hot but if your multis just manipulate the feedback process to encourage unsuspecting members to part with cold hard cash you get a slap on the wrist.

baffling logic.
1 Like #32
ants97
so you will more than likely get banned for manipulating the voting process on this site by creating mulit ids and voting your own deals hot or send a few pms urging your online buddies to vote it hot but if your multis just manipulate the feedback process to encourage unsuspecting members to part with cold hard cash you get a slap on the wrist.baffling logic.

Ants has a point on this, could we ask ASB when you get time to reply to this, whether this could reviewed, as any sort of deception regardless of reasoning should be dealt with more firm.
[mod] 1 Like #33
I've always found this point a bone of contention that people can make multi accounts in FS/FT but only get the multi account banned whilst the original gets infracted. IMO this is just wrong.
banned#34
Syzable
I've always found this point a bone of contention that people can make multi accounts in FS/FT but only get the multi account banned whilst the original gets infracted. IMO this is just wrong.


+1
banned#35
Rest assured, if a trading multi is created, we'll close it as soon as we can. If there's a dodgy trade or outstanding issue, I'll also ensure the main id is banned if they decide not to take the option of resolving.


Should anyone attempt to manipulate the voting system, they are more than likely to face a request to cease,, failing that the voting power could be reduced to zero. Bans are a last resort all round unless you're a scammer or intend to flood the site with spam.


A trading suspension flag, it's a great idea. It's one we've flagged up before. I'll see if there's any room for change shortly, perhaps even a pirate's badge might suffice.


Edited By: aScottishBloke on Nov 29, 2010 16:41
#36
aScottishBloke
Rest assured, if a trading multi is created, we'll close it as soon as we can. If there's a dodgy trade or outstanding issue, I'll also ensure the main id is banned if they decide not to take the option of resolving.Should anyone attempt to manipulate the voting system, they are more than likely to face a request to cease,, failing that the voting power could be reduced to zero. Bans are a last resort all round unless you're a scammer or intend to flood the site with spam.A trading suspension flag, it's a great idea. It's one we've flagged up before. I'll see if there's any room for change shortly, perhaps even a pirate's badge might suffice.

but a pirates badge would look cool 8)
#37
aScottishBloke
Rest assured, if a trading multi is created, we'll close it as soon as we can. If there's a dodgy trade or outstanding issue, I'll also ensure the main id is banned if they decide not to take the option of resolving.Should anyone attempt to manipulate the voting system, they are more than likely to face a request to cease,, failing that the voting power could be reduced to zero. Bans are a last resort all round unless you're a scammer or intend to flood the site with spam.A trading suspension flag, it's a great idea. It's one we've flagged up before. I'll see if there's any room for change shortly, perhaps even a pirate's badge might suffice.

Anything that is easy for the persons involved and the person subject to the ban/suspension from trade.
banned#38
Charlie Scene


but a pirates badge would look cool 8)


I did think that right enough, perhaps I'll see if we can come up with something else.
1 Like #39
aScottishBloke
Charlie Scene
but a pirates badge would look cool 8)
I did think that right enough, perhaps I'll see if we can come up with something else.

can i have a pirates badge though,can i? :D
#40
aScottishBloke
Charlie Scene
but a pirates badge would look cool 8)
I did think that right enough, perhaps I'll see if we can come up with something else.

A cold sulking flame would be fitting for hotukdeals.

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