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#1
They were banned for self-promotion a while back, as I recall.
#2
oh ok, must have missed all this been working lots and never on the site that much
#3
Yeah, admin has a zero-tolerance policy on self promotion, there's a few old threads knocking about where it's been debated, like this one

It is a shame because the wider community misses out on good deals as a result, but a line has to be drawn with regard to what 'self promotion' is. A few more notable banned merchants include CCL, Scan and Toys 'R' Us (and lots more).
#4
Just mention very in a comment and it gets pulled.
[helper]#5
josephmccowie
Yeah, admin has a zero-tolerance policy on self promotion, there's a few old threads knocking about where it's been debated, like this one

It is a shame because the wider community misses out on good deals as a result, but a line has to be drawn with regard to what 'self promotion' is. A few more notable banned merchants include CCL, Scan and Toys 'R' Us (and lots more).

Toys R Us aren't banned
[mod]#6
hi

Sometimes we have to ban merchants from HUKD for a variety of reasons such as they have been spamming/astroturfing, they are unreliable, they are a new business and have not been vetted by HUKD members.We don't ban merchants casually - it's only when we believe it's in the best interest of the members.

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7 Likes #7
what happens instead to bypass selfpromo is that companies send lists to the mods for them to post instead .....
1 Like #8
Its a shame as very and littlewoods do have some good deals.
#9
Yes, I find that I don't use this site as much as I used to, because a lot of the really good deals I used to find were using the discount codes that Very/isme etc send me. I'd find the deals on here, and then add the discount for an even better deal! Got a couple of cracking deals on tellies and a laptop that way.

Is a ban permanent?
[mod] 1 Like #10
panddda
Yes, I find that I don't use this site as much as I used to, because a lot of the really good deals I used to find were using the discount codes that Very/isme etc send me. I'd find the deals on here, and then add the discount for an even better deal! Got a couple of cracking deals on tellies and a laptop that way.

Is a ban permanent?

Not always. Merchants are welcome to get in touch once a ban/suspension has been placed for a review and we factor a few things in when deciding if they should be allowed back.
#11
Fingers crossed then that they get in touch and get whatever it is sorted out! They're definitely a very incompetent company in general (doesn't bother me, as long as I get cheap stuff from them!) so I don't hold out much hope.
#12
Sorry if I sound daft in asking this... But how is something defined as self promoting and not just another deal?
#13
mrsgm71
Sorry if I sound daft in asking this... But how is something defined as self promoting and not just another deal?


I too would like to know this,
Also how would you know they had been doing it? ( don't need to be specific to this merchant, an example of any would do)
banned#14
Would have thought it was pretty easy in some cases. IP lookups, bribes on facebook or twitter, pm's to members (like an amazon seller did the other day), new members posting deals for all the same company.
Self promoting I would say is when a company either posts or induces others to post deals for them.

Must say don't see what the difference is when they do it as opposed to emailing mods to do it though, saw a mod earlier with over 15 thousand deals, no way they checked each one of those before posting!
#15
Very were banned, Amazon too, but now Amazon deals are back?
[helper]#16
rev6
Very were banned, Amazon too, but now Amazon deals are back?
No, Amazon are still suspeneded along with Very - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/amazon-uk
#17
rev6
Very were banned, Amazon too, but now Amazon deals are back?
tregs
No, Amazon are still suspeneded along with Very - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/amazon-uk

[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/feedback/amazon-no-more-hukd-2049192?p=23330889 ]

juliet_bravo (admin); 2 days, 13 hours ago
Any merchant frequently self promoting on HUKD will be issued multiple warnings, Suspension is the absolute last resort and, regardless of the size of the merchant, we need every store on HUKD to respect the userbase and not spam the site. Once we've received reassurances from that merchant, we can let them back on board

Also see:
[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/amazon-banned-what-what-2051482?p=23355940 ]
#18
How or why would Amazon be self promoting, surely the public are able to make a justified decision on when to buy something, no matter what anyone on here or Amazon would say?
#19
aircanman
How or why would Amazon be self promoting, surely the public are able to make a justified decision on when to buy something, no matter what anyone on here or Amazon would say?

If a merchant does not follow the rules/guidelines put in place by this site, then they must suffer the consequences; regardless of where consumers spend their money.
#20
aircanman
How or why would Amazon be self promoting, surely the public are able to make a justified decision on when to buy something, no matter what anyone on here or Amazon would say?
This is pretty much what every other person has said. With the exception of a few who have put their blind trust into the HUKD team and believe they were right in suspending them for something which they have NOT made apparent, even at the request of many members. At the end of the day it is their choice and we can't really do much about it.

On the bright side, I'm going to be a richer man after Christmas ;)

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