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[helper]#1
I think its only happened in the last 24 hours - it says suspended rather than banned

Hopefully will be sorted soon
#2
Chanchi32
I think its only happened in the last 24 hours - it says suspended rather than banned

Hopefully will be sorted soon
Is it a glitch or they had bad feedback?
[helper]#3
BargainHunter54321
Chanchi32
I think its only happened in the last 24 hours - it says suspended rather than banned

Hopefully will be sorted soon
Is it a glitch or they had bad feedback?

I dont know why they have been suspended. However i saw a mariokart deal being pulled last night so something has happened.
#4
oh I was trying to post that bout half hour ago but oh well I bought one. Also had 10% extra off
#5
Chanchi32
BargainHunter54321
Chanchi32
I think its only happened in the last 24 hours - it says suspended rather than banned

Hopefully will be sorted soon
Is it a glitch or they had bad feedback?

I dont know why they have been suspended. However i saw a mariokart deal being pulled last night so something has happened.
Do we know whether that was that removed by the mods or member spammed? When I saw the post go up, the game wasn't actually in stock.

That specific post aside, I'd be interested to know the reasoning for any change as well. I know that Zavvi have some issues with their customer service standards and their stock levels aren't the most reliable, but in my experience it's just been a case of a bit of a wait rather than order cancellation. I've had a number of great bargains from them over an extended period - often due to posts here - so it would be a shame if Zavvi deals couldn't be posted at all.
banned#6
Thread was reported for an official answer over five minutes ago but I wouldn't hold my breath.
#7
Not just Hut and Zavvi but the whole group of companies owned by HUT Group have been suspended, Iwantoneofthose, myprotein, mankind, Zavvi, ProBikeKit, exantediet, Coggles ,myvitamins, Look fantastic. Not the first major retailer to get a slap on the hands for possibly abusing this site.

Edited By: simplyjimbo on Jul 05, 2014 21:55
[helper]#8
Illusionary
Chanchi32
BargainHunter54321
Chanchi32
I think its only happened in the last 24 hours - it says suspended rather than banned

Hopefully will be sorted soon
Is it a glitch or they had bad feedback?

I dont know why they have been suspended. However i saw a mariokart deal being pulled last night so something has happened.
Do we know whether that was that removed by the mods or member spammed? When I saw the post go up, the game wasn't actually in stock.

That specific post aside, I'd be interested to know the reasoning for any change as well. I know that Zavvi have some issues with their customer service standards and their stock levels aren't the most reliable, but in my experience it's just been a case of a bit of a wait rather than order cancellation. I've had a number of great bargains from them over an extended period - often due to posts here - so it would be a shame if Zavvi deals couldn't be posted at all.

Not sure on the mario kart deal

Always some great deals to be had for games and blu-rays. Ive never had an issue with service @ Zavvi
banned 3 Likes #9
Boohoo, my answer was voted down, bothered much?

Either way the people on this site who are supposed to inform users of such things, don't bother, so another nail in the coffin for this site.
3 Likes #10
Its probably because they aren't paying the owners of HUKD any referral fees.
[HUKD Deal Editor]#11
dbhoy
Thread was reported for an official answer over five minutes ago but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Would that not require somebody above [helper] status to be working on a weekend? (_;)

Oooooosh!
banned 7 Likes #12
BuzzDuraband
dbhoy
Thread was reported for an official answer over five minutes ago but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Would that not require somebody above [helper] status to be working on a weekend? (_;)

Oooooosh!

Do they work weekdays too, hadn't noticed (_;)
#13
This sucks
[HUKD Deal Editor]#14
dbhoy
BuzzDuraband
dbhoy
Thread was reported for an official answer over five minutes ago but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Would that not require somebody above [helper] status to be working on a weekend? (_;)

Oooooosh!

Do they work weekdays too, hadn't noticed (_;)

Ha Ha touche (_;)
banned#15
BuzzDuraband
dbhoy
BuzzDuraband
dbhoy
Thread was reported for an official answer over five minutes ago but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Would that not require somebody above [helper] status to be working on a weekend? (_;)

Oooooosh!

Do they work weekdays too, hadn't noticed (_;)

Ha Ha touche (_;)

;) It's all gone pete tong on here, has for a while.
#16
As protest I won't be clicking through the Get Deal link ever again ;)
#17
One of the most awful retailers on hukd and seemingly untouchable too. They must have been naughty and not handed over the brown envelope.
[admin] 8 Likes #18
They're suspended again for self promotion. Again, nothing to do with affiliate relationships or money or anything like that, it's just continuous and we're not prepared to allow a merchant to act that way.

I don't know how long they will be suspended for, it depends on whether they can work out this issue internally.

Edited By: juliet_bravo on Jul 06, 2014 09:28
[HUKD Deal Editor] 3 Likes #19
juliet_bravo
They're suspended again for self promotion. Again, nothing to do with affiliate relationships or money or anything like that, it's just continuous and we're not prepared to allow a merchant to act that way.

I don't know how long they will be suspended for, it depends on whether they can work out this issue internally.

That's interesting, Cheers for the response, I wouldn't have thought Zavvi would have needed to self promote on here given the speed their deals are created on here from established users.
2 Likes #20
juliet_bravo
They're suspended again for self promotion. Again, nothing to do with affiliate relationships or money or anything like that, it's just continuous and we're not prepared to allow a merchant to act that way.

I don't know how long they will be suspended for, it depends on whether they can work out this issue internally.
Can you please try and help get it sorted ASAP juliet_bravo?

As The Hut/Zavvi have very good deals and everyone is missing out big time on these deals which will never be seen by us members. :(:(:(
3 Likes #21
Zavvi are no loss to HUKD. In the last 2 months I've ordered 3 'in stock and usually dispatched within 24 hours' items and have had to cancel all 3 due to 'awaiting stock from suppliers'.
2 Likes #22
Transformers

Can you please try and help get it sorted ASAP juliet_bravo?


No, don't JB X)
#23
juliet_bravo
They're suspended again for self promotion. Again, nothing to do with affiliate relationships or money or anything like that, it's just continuous and we're not prepared to allow a merchant to act that way.

I don't know how long they will be suspended for, it depends on whether they can work out this issue internally.
Transformers
Can you please try and help get it sorted ASAP juliet_bravo?

As The Hut/Zavvi have very good deals and everyone is missing out big time on these deals which will never be seen by us members. :(:(:(

Showing favouritism towards one merchant to circumvent standard site procedures?

I don't think so.
#24
thread_903490
Sy said he was getting the "Crikey!" page but the Hut Group Issues thread now returns the "Reeking Of Spam" message. Perhaps they've found it again and are just about to unspam. (_;)

Wishful thinking, perhaps.

This address shows the thread marked as "spam":
[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/feedback/time-hut-group-were-banned-from-here-903490 ]

However, one of the other versions of the address of the same thread, [ http://www.hotukdeals.com/feedback/903490 ], results in a "404" page with the image you mentioned:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/assets/img/404Crikey.png


PS. Related information for anybody not following the discussion (now):
[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/feedback/role-moderators-posting-deals-voting-1481635?p=17265461 ]

Edited By: fanpages on Jul 06, 2014 17:52
#25
thread_903490
I guess you could always just browse the site, Transformers. :D

Back to the matter at hand - wouldn't now be a good time to unspam and bump THAT thread?
I'm not going to go through the whole Zavvi and The Hut site every single day to look for bargains, if that's what you mean. ;)

And what thread are you talking about (in regards to 'THAT thread')???
#26
Transformers
And what thread are you talking about (in regards to 'THAT thread')???

^ See my last comment.

I could re-publish it & make it available for download, as I have it saved offline, I suppose.
1 Like #27
fanpages
juliet_bravo
They're suspended again for self promotion. Again, nothing to do with affiliate relationships or money or anything like that, it's just continuous and we're not prepared to allow a merchant to act that way.

I don't know how long they will be suspended for, it depends on whether they can work out this issue internally.
Transformers
Can you please try and help get it sorted ASAP juliet_bravo?

As The Hut/Zavvi have very good deals and everyone is missing out big time on these deals which will never be seen by us members. :(:(:(

Showing favouritism towards one merchant to circumvent standard site procedures?

I don't think so.
Admin could do, considering it's such a large retailer and most people benefit from their numerous deals.
4 Likes #28
fanpages
Showing favouritism towards one merchant to circumvent standard site procedures?

I don't think so.
Transformers
Admin could do, considering it's such a large retailer and most people benefit from their numerous deals.

I think you are missing the sarcasm.

There have been accusations that The Hut Group have previously received preferential treatment at HotUKDeals. Some allegations go so far as suggesting that the site's staff used secondary (& additional) member accounts to create "Deals" threads after being "tipped off" directly from employees of Zavvi.com, TheHut.com, & so on.

See:
"The role of moderators in posting deals and voting"

A long-running thread about the issues at The Hut Group was marked as "spam" & I reported it's absence almost 18 months ago.

It is suspiciously difficult to locate in the database & cannot be reinstated.

I wouldn't mind if The Hut Group didn't return to the site... ever.
2 Likes #29
fanpages
fanpages
Showing favouritism towards one merchant to circumvent standard site procedures?

I don't think so.
Transformers
Admin could do, considering it's such a large retailer and most people benefit from their numerous deals.

I think you are missing the sarcasm.

There have been accusations that The Hut Group have previously received preferential treatment at HotUKDeals. Some allegations go so far as suggesting that the site's staff used secondary (& additional) member accounts to create "Deals" threads after being "tipped off" directly from employees of Zavvi.com, TheHut.com, & so on.

See:
"The role of moderators in posting deals and voting"

A long-running thread about the issues at The Hut Group was marked as "spam" & I reported it's absence almost 18 months ago.

It is suspiciously difficult to locate in the database & cannot be reinstated.

I wouldn't mind if The Hut Group didn't return to the site... ever.
To be fair, I'm purely thinking from mine and the hukd community's point of view. The huge majority of hukd members would like The Hut/Zavvi deals reinstated, I would even place all my savings on it - that's how sure I am. Admin could even run a poll on here, we all know what the results would be.
#30
fanpages
Showing favouritism towards one merchant to circumvent standard site procedures?

I don't think so.
Transformers
Admin could do, considering it's such a large retailer and most people benefit from their numerous deals.
fanpages
I think you are missing the sarcasm.

There have been accusations that The Hut Group have previously received preferential treatment at HotUKDeals. Some allegations go so far as suggesting that the site's staff used secondary (& additional) member accounts to create "Deals" threads after being "tipped off" directly from employees of Zavvi.com, TheHut.com, & so on.

See:
"The role of moderators in posting deals and voting"

A long-running thread about the issues at The Hut Group was marked as "spam" & I reported it's absence almost 18 months ago.

It is suspiciously difficult to locate in the database & cannot be reinstated.

I wouldn't mind if The Hut Group didn't return to the site... ever.
Transformers
To be fair, I'm purely thinking from mine and the hukd community's point of view. The huge majority of hukd members would like The Hut/Zavvi deals reinstated, I would even place all my savings on it - that's how sure I am. Admin could even run a poll on here, we all know what the results would be.

"huge majority"? Yes, having a site-wide vote would certainly help.

However, as Admin had not been back to the thread he started about the whole topic, & the original thread about how The Hut Group was poorly regarded by "many" of the contributors to it, then we may never be able to confirm anything statistically speaking.

The existing "Deals" threads for the group of companies are still visible. Some have not been marked as "Expired" yet.

Seems pointless disallowing new threads, but keeping the former ones visible though.

Edited By: fanpages on Jul 06, 2014 19:30: Happy holiday... First rule of Banned club, etc.
[HUKD Deal Editor] 8 Likes #31
Transformers
fanpages
fanpages
Showing favouritism towards one merchant to circumvent standard site procedures?

I don't think so.
Transformers
Admin could do, considering it's such a large retailer and most people benefit from their numerous deals.

I think you are missing the sarcasm.

There have been accusations that The Hut Group have previously received preferential treatment at HotUKDeals. Some allegations go so far as suggesting that the site's staff used secondary (& additional) member accounts to create "Deals" threads after being "tipped off" directly from employees of Zavvi.com, TheHut.com, & so on.

See:
"The role of moderators in posting deals and voting"

A long-running thread about the issues at The Hut Group was marked as "spam" & I reported it's absence almost 18 months ago.

It is suspiciously difficult to locate in the database & cannot be reinstated.

I wouldn't mind if The Hut Group didn't return to the site... ever.
To be fair, I'm purely thinking from mine and the hukd community's point of view. The huge majority of hukd members would like The Hut/Zavvi deals reinstated, I would even place all my savings on it - that's how sure I am. Admin could even run a poll on here, we all know what the results would be.

I'm not sure that is strictly true to be honest, It seemed very hit and miss with Zavvi towards the back end, They just seemed to be going on a rampage ;) They were listing items on sale that they did not even have in stock. It was quite evident they were drop shipping, There was also reports of users on HUKD who purchased Mario Kart 7 the first time Zavvi did a price drop that were still waiting for their item whilst purchases from the second price drop were receiving items.

It's not a massive blow to HUKD, users can still freely browse Zavvi at their own leisure, From my personal opinion Zavvi were becoming a liability with their selling procedures.

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