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#1
I think this has been mentioned before. Apparently 'newbies' are not 'experienced' enough to give out rep that could affect your rep.
I think this stemmed from the days when you could leave a neg rep.
#2
I know but Im refering mainly to deal requests.

Surely everyone's requests should be seen as equally important?

Im sure they are 'experienced' enough to decide whether your assistance was helpful :roll:
#3
col
I know but Im refering mainly to deal requests.

Surely everyone's requests should be seen as equally important?

Im sure they are 'experienced' enough to decide whether your assistance was helpful :roll:

Yes, but what if the help you gave was not quite what the OP wanted? You'd be gutted if a 'newbie' left you a neg, and you had done the best you could to help. You would want it removing, wouldn't you?
#4
dinosteveus
Yes, but what if the help you gave was not quite what the OP wanted? You'd be gutted if a 'newbie' left you a neg, and you had done the best you could to help. You would want it removing, wouldn't you?


But there is no such thing as neg rep. So all they need to decide is whether you helped them and if so then rep should be recognised IMO
#5
col
But there is no such thing as neg rep. So all they need to decide is whether you helped them and if so then rep should be recognised IMO

The same rules apply I think. If the 'newbie' would not be experienced enough to know when and how to leave a neg (when that was an option), how can they be experienced enough to leave a positive rep?
#6
Understand what your saying Dino, but from what I can gather even experienced users were liable to abuse the neg rep option in a similar way to you describe above.
#7
does that mean that i cant leave rep? ;-)
1 Like #8
i agree with col, i helped 4 or 5 newbies save themselves a fair bit of hassle with a price match, they all left me rep and it didnt count for anything lol.

thats not the reason i helped them tho of course:whistling: :giggle:
#9
Some good points made in this thread.

Im sure they are 'experienced' enough to decide whether your assistance was helpful :roll:


That's where you get the thanks from the member. Getting rep is not the reason why you are helping these people out. There are so many posts in the deal requests section these days, I find myself only responding to those which I feel I can offer some genuine help. (Whereas in the past, when the forum was less busy, I tried to help more than a few)

Getting the thanks in the thread is more than enough for me :-D
#10
sofiamary
does that mean that i cant leave rep? ;-)


You can sofia, look at the green boxes under your name, this means you have received a fews reps, and can affect other people's :)
#11
Here:-

Admin
Because someone with no rep is not considered to have the judgement to leave rep yet.


Post #2 From the 15/01/2007:-
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43537&highlight=negative
#12
dinosteveus
The same rules apply I think. If the 'newbie' would not be experienced enough to know when and how to leave a neg (when that was an option), how can they be experienced enough to leave a positive rep?


Is somebody goes out of the way to help you with a deal request, I think most people are able minded enough to recognise this regardless of how long they have been a member. Would seem to be common sense.
#13
emmajk42
You can sofia, look at the green boxes under your name, this means you have received a fews reps, and can affect other people's :)





thanks i see what you mean now, having a funny turn here :whistling:
#14
I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying what is. See my post #12.
#15
i get some points here , my last 3 reps have counted for nothing, but its allways nice to get rep whenever it gives u a green block/points or not, nice to help ppl!
#16
emmajk42
Some good points made in this thread.



That's where you get the thanks from the member. Getting rep is not the reason why you are helping these people out. There are so many posts in the deal requests section these days, I find myself only responding to those which I feel I can offer some genuine help. (Whereas in the past, when the forum was less busy, I tried to help more than a few)

Getting the thanks in the thread is more than enough for me :-D



Rep isn't everything no your right, and a thank you is suffient. But when they try and leave rep it is overlooked. It just seems elitist to me.

If a thank you is enough why do rep points exist at all?
#17
A rep is just another way of thanking you. Even if it does not count, it's the thought that counts.
#18
dinosteveus
A rep is just another way of thanking you. Even if it does not count, it's the thought that counts.


just like xmas! :whistling: :giggle: :)
#19
So if a new member signs up and puts deal request in saying I can get A for £49.99 is this the best price? I come along and say its only £24.99 here!

And the reason I dont get rep is the new member is perceived not to have the 'judgement' to decide whether this was helpful.:giggle:

Absurd.
#20
intenso100
just like xmas! :whistling: :giggle: :)


Hehehehehehe http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/YORKYINSUFFOLK/36_1_21.gif
#21
col
So if a new member signs up and puts deal request in saying I can get A for £49.99 is this the best price? I come along and say its only £24.99 here!

And the reason I dont get rep is the new member is perceived not to have the 'judgement' to decide whether this was helpful.:giggle:

Absurd.

Maybe Admin will comment.:roll:


edit,
Thinking about this, I don't think he will or needs to again. Paul already made his point as per my link to his post.
#22
col
So if a new member signs up and puts deal request in saying I can get A for £49.99 is this the best price? I come along and say its only £24.99 here!

And the reason I dont get rep is the new member is perceived not to have the 'judgement' to decide whether this was helpful.:giggle:

Absurd.


in fairness u do get rep just doesnt add to your points, but as you cant get any more blocks..., all u can get up to now is reputation beyond repute instead of brilliant future,
#23
intenso100
in fairness u do get rep just doesnt add to your points, but as you cant get any more blocks..., all u can get up to now is reputation beyond repute instead of brilliant future,


I don't want more blocks I want justice:thumbsup:
All Men/Women are created equal;-)
1 Like #24
col
I don't want more blocks I want justice:thumbsup:

Justice for what?:-(



col
All Men/Women are created equal;-)

Ummmmmmm, :whistling: :thumbsup:


I'll give you some rep if it will make you happy :p
1 Like #25
dinosteveus


I'll give you some rep if it will make you happy :p


it will :giggle: :)
#26
damm dino ur rep is strong 201 points lol! thanks i think i deserved it :giggle::)
#27
Ok but only if you promise to do the same for every other member who has helped people but not been recognised with rep points as the people are not yet special enough:thumbsup:

Its funny how your 'judgement' improves once you get a couple of green blocks :roll:
#28
col
Ok but only if you promise to do the same for every other member who has helped people but not been recognised with rep points as the people are not yet special enough:thumbsup:

Its funny how your 'judgement' improves once you get a couple of green blocks :roll:


If I see any member helping I will pass on rep if it has also helped me and other members.

I think you have missed the point. For a 'newbie' to have some rep they must have posted a good deal or helped somebody. That normally means they have been a member for 'some' time and understand how the rep system works.
#29
dinosteveus
Ummmmmmm, :whistling: :thumbsup:


:w00t: :giggle: :w00t:

col
Its funny how your 'judgement' improves once you get a couple of green blocks


I do think that rep also affects how you are seen in the forum, also the For Sale forum. If newbies could give the same rep as everyone else then people would sign up new accounts and rep themselves... not good.
1 Like #30
if u rep me i will give u a lollipop :):giggle::whistling:
#31
dinosteveus
If I see any member helping I will pass on rep if it has also helped me and other members.

I think you have missed the point. For a 'newbie' to have some rep they must have posted a good deal or helped somebody. That normally means they have been a member for 'some' time and understand how the rep system works.


Doesn't the fact they leave you rep thanking you, tell you they understand the rep system already?
1 Like #32
i understood the rep system straight away. mainly because i lurked for a while lol.
#33
col
Doesn't the fact they leave you rep thanking you, tell you they understand the rep system already?


Ummm, I guess so :oops:
but erm...... :?
#34
duckmagicuk2
:w00t: :giggle: :w00t:



I do think that rep also affects how you are seen in the forum, also the For Sale forum. If newbies could give the same rep as everyone else then people would sign up new accounts and rep themselves... not good.


But doesn't ebay suffer from the same risk? But they give new members the same right to leave feedback which is equal to everyone else's regardless of experience.
#35
col
But doesn't ebay suffer from the same risk? But they give new members the same right to leave feedback which is equal to everyone else's regardless of experience.

This has nowt to do with ebay. HUKD and Ebay are totally different.
Ebay is open to big time abuse. I have seen it and I've reported hundreds of accounts over the years.
#36
tyler-dean
i understood the rep system straight away. mainly because i lurked for a while lol.


Thanks for your + rep but it was worth nothing cos your 'judgement' is not yet considered to be worthy:giggle:

But listen up, if I rep you back your judgement goes up and next time you want to rep me:thumbsup:
#37
col
Thanks for your + rep but it was worth nothing cos your 'judgement' is not yet considered to be worthy:giggle:

It was the thought that counts :p
#38
dinosteveus
This has nowt to do with ebay. HUKD and Ebay are totally different.
Ebay is open to big time abuse. I have seen it and I've reported hundreds of accounts over the years.


Course they are different. But same principles exist in regards to account abuse as a way to possibly profiteer.
1 Like #39
dinosteveus
It was the thought that counts :p


haha all the time :whistling: damm so many shower gels from xmas! :giggle: umm i forgot funny umm socks also
!!
1 Like #40
dinosteveus
It was the thought that counts :p


I know and I thanked him for it:thumbsup:

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