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#2
op has the right to close any thread they started
banned#3
barky
op has the right to close any thread they started


why? That doesn't make any sense, if there is a discussion ongoing that others have contributed to, whats the point of starting threads then deciding the topic shouldn't be discussed any more?
I've looked at the rules and can't see anything that says thats so?
#4
colinsunderland
why? That doesn't make any sense, if there is a discussion ongoing that others have contributed to, whats the point of starting threads then deciding the topic shouldn't be discussed any more?
I've looked at the rules and can't see anything that says thats so?


I dont know why m8-dont have an answer,but have seen this happen many times-you can just click report and ask a mod to close if you are op. Maybe the op of the thread will explain their reasons. I think sometimes ops do it because the thread gets inundated with negative/trolling comments-not saying this is the case with the thread you asked about but sometimes it seems to be a reason. If a thread becomes a pointless argument maybe the op considers it best not to continue.
#5

Does this mean that just because an OP doesn't like the way the thread goes he/she can close them willy nilly?


The OP has every right to close a thread he/she started. The OP in the thread in question often does this when a reasoned debate occurs, I guess it was reasonable as he opened the thread and wasn't around to flame it.

If it were full of insults, it woud have ran for a bit longer.

Not really fair, but as I tell my son "Life isn't fair".
banned#6
thesaint
The OP has every right to close a thread he/she started. The OP in the thread in question often does this when a reasoned debate occurs, I guess it was reasonable as he opened the thread and wasn't around to flame it.

If it were full of insults, it woud have ran for a bit longer.

Not really fair, but as I tell my son "Life isn't fair".


Exactly - still don't see why an OP has sole rights over being able to decide if a discussion continues or not though - waiting for a mod response as to why its allowed and where it states this is allowed in the rules :thumbsup:

I can see why it would happen in FS forum as obviously when its sold the thread needs closing, but if you invite discussion then fail to see why the thread should be closed when that happens.
#7
BG1 does it all the time, he posts a thread full of lies usually supported by his fellow chums, gets found out, then spams it.
Crap, but true.
#8
colinsunderland
Exactly - still don't see why an OP has sole rights over being able to decide if a discussion continues or not though - waiting for a mod response as to why its allowed and where it states this is allowed in the rules :thumbsup:

I can see why it would happen in FS forum as obviously when its sold the thread needs closing, but if you invite discussion then fail to see why the thread should be closed when that happens.


It's not in the rules, and I don't think it should be to be honest. Not everything can be in the rules.

If a pattern occurs, then I guess the mods could take this into consideration, but I doubt it's high on the agenda.

skusey
BG1 does it all the time, he posts a thread full of lies usually supported by his fellow chums, gets found out, then spams it.
Crap, but true.


Not true. If a member were to do this, his/her spamming rights would be removed.

What are your views on the subject in question?
#9
thesaint
It's not in the rules, and I don't think it should be to be honest. Not everything can be in the rules.

If a pattern occurs, then I guess the mods could take this into consideration, but I doubt it's high on the agenda.



Not true. If it were, his spamming rights would be removed.


Not true, he does it all the time, look at your database :)
banned#10
The OP has a right to request thread closure. What we don't permit is allowing member responses to disappear as they would do if a request was made to spam.

We realise that a lot of effort can go into responses and wouldn't accept a request to spam (This was not the case here), however if an OP felt the thread was drifting off topic and didn't want to bother us with reporting or for us to be seen as censoring, then it's a fair call. The thread is visible, the posts remain.
banned#11
aScottishBloke
The OP has a right to request thread closure. What we don't permit is allowing member responses to disappear as they would do if a request was made to spam.


And yet I've seen that happen before.
So if a thread isn't going off topic (which that one didn't), why would you close a thread?
[helper]#12
colinsunderland
So if a thread isn't going off topic (which that one didn't), why would you close a thread?


I agree with Colin on this one. If a member wants to start a discussion and the thread kept on topic (without the usual spats) why is it the OP can close the thread whenever he/she wants? If other members want to carry on the discussion it is selfish to close the thread just because the OP has lost interest in it....if a member doesn't want a topic discussed, don't start a thread on it. Simple.

Colin - you have an active discussion thread with the bulger thread. Ask the mods to lock to the thread and see what sort of a response you get from the members. Would be a very good way of illustrating your point.....
#13
Its a really silly rule, this is meant to be a forum. Giving people the power to post 'news stories' that are generally politically-fueled, submit their views and then close the thread before others have chance to reply is farcical, it should not be allowed.

If someone is making a new thread in misc then it should be open and remain open to all as long as it stays within site rules - otherwise the site becomes effectively a party political broadcast. If another member were to resubmit the same story I have little doubt that it would be spammed as a 'dupe' and allowed to remain spam - how is this fair or necessary?
#14
Boothy closed the thread I guess due to the usual faces turning it into a clever trolling exercise as before, wow we haven't seen that arguement before have we?
[helper]#15
Adam2050
Boothy closed the thread I guess due to the usual faces turning it into a clever trolling exercise as before, wow we haven't seen that arguement before have we?

Impossible Adam - trolling is not allowed on HDUK :)

But as Jah says as soon as an alternative view is offered (eg death penalty isn't such a good idea after all) the thread gets locked.......makes it a very one-sided discussion with no right to reply...
#16
gari189
Impossible Adam - trolling is not allowed on HDUK :)

But as Jah says as soon as an alternative view is offered (eg death penalty isn't such a good idea after all) the thread gets locked.......makes it a very one-sided discussion with no right to reply...


I loled.

I understand that, but its the pure inability of few members who I class in that T word, who just know how to bend the rules and reply in such a way there within the topic, that's why people like boothy resort to locking there on thread, its like an ongoing battle, if the few would grow up and learn to behave it wouldn't happen, all for locking threads where the issue is being flogged.:thumbsup:

Same few in a few active threads, now its boring because you know its turning into a personal dislike for each member.
#17
Adam2050
I loled.

I understand that, but its the pure inability of few members who I class in that T word, who just know how to bend the rules and reply in such a way there within the topic, that's why people like boothy resort to locking there on thread, its like an ongoing battle, if the few would grow up and learn to behave it wouldn't happen, all for locking threads where the issue is being flogged.:thumbsup:

Same few in a few active threads, now its boring because you know its turning into a personal dislike for each member.


The people I'm assuming you class in the 'T word' are generally people who know how to debate and want to address an issue. Boothy and others have posted many 'news stories', generally from a right-wing angle. Allowing a member to post a story, lead comments on it and then close the thread when debate begins is making the site dangerous one-sided and political, certainly from how I see it. If someone wants to post a news story and pass their political views on it, it should remain for all members to enter a debate and counteract views, if the site wishes to be considered 'impartial' and 'for the masses'.
#18
jah128
The people I'm assuming you class in the 'T word' are generally people who know how to debate and want to address an issue. Boothy and others have posted many 'news stories', generally from a right-wing angle. Allowing a member to post a story, lead comments on it and then close the thread when debate begins is making the site dangerous one-sided and political, certainly from how I see it. If someone wants to post a news story and pass their political views on it, it should remain for all members to enter a debate and counteract views, if the site wishes to be considered 'impartial' and 'for the masses'.


Nope. There not the people I am on about, there the same few who use the same debating skills so to speak with the way they word things with the exact same arguement from another topic, thus knowing there is no real answer to the question hense they can rile poeple up and continue another onslaught of arm chair politics and name calling.:thumbsup:

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