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FS: 120GB Hard Disk Drive Module for Xbox 360 £45.00

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banned7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months agoFeedback:98 Positive/0 Neutral/1 Negative
I have a 120GB Hard Disk Drive Module for Xbox 360 which I no longer need as I don't use the space and have now got a 60Gb HD with a second 360 I just bought.

This is not an official project but works perfectly and has the same capacity as the official HD.

Drive will be formatted before sending.

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banned7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months agoFeedback:98 Positive/0 Neutral/1 Negative
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banned#1
Reserved for pics which I will post tonight
#2
"This is not an official project but works perfectly and has the same capacity as the official HD."

Does this mean you have modded this yourself with a different drive?
banned#3
I haven't modded it myself. I bought it as a 120GB HD
#4
Worth mentioning that it's probably not sensible to use a modded drive if you plan on using xbox live. Sure you can spoof the serial number, but you're either spoofing the serial number of a smaller drive, so MS can spot the difference, or you're spoofing the serial number of a 120GB drive, which poses a potential problem if both the original and the spoofed drive go on live at the same time.
#5
You wouldn't be banned from Live for using one of these as a console cannot be banned from Live due an external accessory which has been connected to it, it can only be banned for an internal modification to circumvent some aspect of the hardware.

Using one of these on Live is no different to using a 3rd party cooling system. This has been discussed many times before.
#6
Says who? Can you provide a link where MS have stated this?

Once you start jiggering about with the hardware you're running the risk of getting banned.
banned#7
My 360 isn't on xbox live so I'm not sure whether there will be any problems with it online. But never had any problem with it myself
#8
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that it WILL get you banned, but it is possible for MS to tell it's been modded, and that puts you on dodgy ground. If, in the future, a hack emerges where it's possible to, say, install DLC without having actually paid for it, MS will start to look at hard drives more closely, and if there's anything out of order you may well find yourself banned.

External hardware or not, it's still a hardware mod and MS don't like it.
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Paddy Charlie
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Can you add the picture link please (with your HUKD user name & date), so that members can see the product - it may help with some of the queries. (please use the report button http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/images/custom_buttons/report.gif once updated), thanks :thumbsup:


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banned#10
Bumpo uno
#11
WG47
Says who? Can you provide a link where MS have stated this?

Once you start jiggering about with the hardware you're running the risk of getting banned.


It's not the hardware though, that's the point, it's an external accessory.

Say you bought this for your own console and then frequently visited a friend's house and took the drive with you, which you could do, they couldn't ban a console on the grounds of which accessory had been connected to it over the years, that's rediculous.

MS don't like a lot of things, they don't like 3rd party controllers or TV leads, however it doesn't mean that they are going to start to ban people for using them.
banned#12
Bump......
banned#13
Final bump before take elsewhere
#14
Spark
It's not the hardware though, that's the point, it's an external accessory.

Say you bought this for your own console and then frequently visited a friend's house and took the drive with you, which you could do, they couldn't ban a console on the grounds of which accessory had been connected to it over the years, that's rediculous.

MS don't like a lot of things, they don't like 3rd party controllers or TV leads, however it doesn't mean that they are going to start to ban people for using them.


External accessories are hardware. I'm not sure which definition of hardware you're going by, but you're wrong.

By using modified or unofficial hardware like this, you run the risk of getting banned. If MS had a way to spot modded turbo pads they'd happily ban you for that too.
#15
WG47
External accessories are hardware. I'm not sure which definition of hardware you're going by, but you're wrong.

By using modified or unofficial hardware like this, you run the risk of getting banned. If MS had a way to spot modded turbo pads they'd happily ban you for that too.


No you are wrong, end of discussion.

If you can tell me how the use of an external accessory can be considered to be modifying the internal workings of a unit then please let me know, otherwise stop there.
#16
i'll offer £38 and collect
#17
p.s i agree with spark ,i know i wont get banned from xbox live for useing it thats like saying you cant use madkatz memory cards ,pads or steering wheel because the arnt official youl get banned
banned#18
I'd do £40 collected?
#19
cant believe u even discusing this.

the way this works is by hacking a drive with a serial from another drive - ITS ILLEGAL
the harddrive in it is a WD BEV drive thats been hacked and had info from a 120gig loaded into it,so it reads
as a 120gig harddrive.

http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Xbox_360_Hard_Drive_Upgrade
#20
I know exactly how they are created, however if that serial is from a different drive which you own then it is perfectly legal.

It probably is legally 'grey' to sell it on but as long as it isn't breaking any real copyright then I doubt anybody could have any issue. It is Microsoft's fault really for locking their hardware down so much, it's ironic how the creator of the World's most used Internet Browser are also the only mainstream console manufacturer in the current market to not have a Internet Browser available for their console platform.
#21
Spark
I know exactly how they are created, [COLOR="Red"]however if that serial is from a different drive which you own then it is perfectly legal[/COLOR].

It probably is legally 'grey' to sell it on but as long as [COLOR="Red"]it isn't breaking any real copyright[/COLOR] then I doubt anybody could have any issue. It is Microsoft's fault really for locking their hardware down so much, it's ironic how the creator of the World's most used Internet Browser are also the only mainstream console manufacturer in the current market to not have a Internet Browser available for their console platform.


it dont matter who owns the original drive the key is from ITS ILLEGAL
the key is made for the drive it is on no other

i aint gonna go on about this,but its illegal end of story,no matter who owns the original drive,who did it or anything,if the key on it has not been installed by microsoft when it was made,then it is a hacked drive,which is against the T&C that u sign when u go on your xbox.

and if somebody bought it they wouldnt have the original drive anywya so that point is dead and a lie,u are not aloowed to clone a key for anything,the same way u cant use an xp licence on 2 different pc's
#22
ramiuk1
it dont matter who owns the original drive the key is from ITS ILLEGAL
the key is made for the drive it is on no other

i aint gonna go on about this,but its illegal end of story,no matter who owns the original drive,who did it or anything,if the key on it has not been installed by microsoft when it was made,then it is a hacked drive,which is against the T&C that u sign when u go on your xbox.

and if somebody bought it they wouldnt have the original drive anywya so that point is dead and a lie,u are not aloowed to clone a key for anything,the same way u cant use an xp licence on 2 different pc's


Written obviously by someone who has absolutely no idea of how Microsoft licensing works.

You can legally install the same XP license to two clients, the only problem is when you use both clients simultaneously. The same rule would apply to this drive, as long as you did not use the same key in two concurrent sessions then you would be fine from an official legal standpoint.

The T and C for Live, as far as I know, states that your console should not be modifed internally or reverse engineered in any way, it states nothing about external accessories and on Xbox Live users are not banned for having modified DVD drives they are banned due to the level of correct information on the games which they play. If this drive was sold on Ebay then it could be potentially sold to a buyer who would have no idea that it wasn't an 'official' accessory. Do you think it would be fair to ban that user's console under those circumstances?
#23
actually u are wrong a licence cannot be installed to 2 different pc's at the same time,it is transferable meaning u can uninstal from one pc and install on your new one and use the same licence but u cannot have it on both and just turn one of lol.
taken straight from microsoft licence
"Types of licence
Boxed software
When you buy Microsoft software (in a box) off the shelf, either through a retail outlet or by mail order, you are
buying what is known as a Full Packaged Product (FPP). You receive a copy of the product on CD, supporting
manuals and a copy of the licence, known as the End User Licence Agreement (EULA).
[COLOR="Red"]The benefits of buying Full Packaged Product software include being able to transfer the software from one PC
to another (providing it is uninstalled from the first) [/COLOR]
and a limited amount of free support.
This is typically the most expensive way of purchasing Microsoft software, when compared to other methods.
With a new PC
Software that is pre-loaded onto a new PC when you buy it (for example Windows XP) is purchased under an
OEM Licence. An OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) builds new PCs and installs the software on the PC.
As the software is preloaded, you may not get the product CD, but you will receive a manual and EULA.
(Technical support is supplied by the OEM).
[COLOR="Red"]This can be the cheapest option, but there are restrictions to the licence. For example, you cannot transfer
the software from one PC to another[/COLOR]
, as you can with FPP, ie the licence ‘lives and dies’ with the PC."

just a note from someone that knows nothing about licencing to someone that knows everything about it
the details are all here
download.microsoft.com/documents/uk/.../Microsoft_Licensing_Guide.pdf
#24
FYI there are many different types of EULA, what you have quoted there is just two of them and there are also many contract lawyers who disagree with MS EULA's for various reasons.
#25
Spark
FYI there are many different types of EULA, what you have quoted there is just two of them and there are also many contract lawyers who disagree with MS EULA's for various reasons.


go to the link and it lists them all,i dont give 2 ***** about what a lawyer would say,u said in the EULA it said u could have it on 2 and u cant.
yes there is a type called an open licence but its for businesses and for people with more than 10 systems if i remember,prob wrong with that number though,but u have to pay for 10 systems and they use there own key,just the same disk

bye
#26
It can, if one of them is out of action, say for example on a failed HDD, it doesn't always have to be technically removed.
#27
Spark
It can, if one of them is out of action, say for example on a failed HDD, it doesn't always have to be technically removed.


so it only has one active licence on 1 system at one time.(cant be on 2 usable machines at once)

either way u cannot hack and rip a key(which isnt a licence key by the way)from a xbox 360 harddrive and put it in a harddrive that was bought from a shop,sorry bud but u cant.

anyways i gotta take kid to park and walk dog,cya
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