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FS: anglers showcase by dambry mint nice collection £50.00

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banned6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months agoFeedback:58 Positive/0 Neutral/3 Negative
here is a collection of dambry mint fish in unit
there is 24 fish in total cost me a fortune
but time to go
the price is cheap as there are a marks on the case and straches
all fish in perfect condition other then 2 which need a bit of tlc
hence the price
looking for £50
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delivery will be £6 by dhl
payment via bt or ppg
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banned6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months agoFeedback:58 Positive/0 Neutral/3 Negative
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banned#1
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac319/chickhappy/001-5.jpg
banned#2
any offers
#3
hello, what are the dimentions are the case the fish are in? Thanks
banned#4
homerd
hello, what are the dimentions are the case the fish are in? Thanks

hello its 20" across and 23" down hope that help
#5
:( its too big, I would have took it off your hands but I have no where to put it! sadly.

Goodluck with your sale :) nice collection
banned#6
homerd
:( its too big, I would have took it off your hands but I have no where to put it! sadly.

Goodluck with your sale :) nice collection

you could always take the fish out of the cabinet
open to offers thanks
#7
Hi,

Is it painted wood or wood with a plastic covering on it? If painted wood, whats the condition of the wood in? Could the varnish be taken off and the frame re-varnished?

Considering the condition and the work needed to be done to the frame, whats the lowest you will go to delivered?
banned#8
Simon_G
Hi,

Is it painted wood or wood with a plastic covering on it? If painted wood, whats the condition of the wood in? Could the varnish be taken off and the frame re-varnished?

Considering the condition and the work needed to be done to the frame, whats the lowest you will go to delivered?

its painted wood the condition of the wood is good cost me a fortune just with moving etc its got scratched varnish could be taken off it just needs a bit of tlc
it would ba a good project and worth it i will go to £50 delivered thats a bargain
#9
Thanks for replying, but £50 delivered is out of my budget, especially due to the work needed doing to it.
banned#10
Simon_G
Thanks for replying, but £50 delivered is out of my budget, especially due to the work needed doing to it.

the work is only surface wouldnt take long to bring back and would cost a bit to post i paid 20 per fish
so i think its worth that thanks for intrest anyway x
#11
Sorry, I don't know much about the fish... were they real fish done from a taxidermist? If so, is it possible to see a picture of the damaged fish? Thanks.
banned#12
moe922
Sorry, I don't know much about the fish... were they real fish done from a taxidermist? If so, is it possible to see a picture of the damaged fish? Thanks.

they are all course type of fish the damaged fish i have glued bit back on and you cant even notice that its been fixed
#13
the work is only surface wouldnt take long to bring back


I dunno, to take that off and then prepare it, then re varnish it is hardly a 5 minute job is it? As for £20 per fish, you were robbed, The Tench went on ebay not that long ago for £2.50 delivered, and there is a selection of 10 or so on there now which wont go for much either by the look of it.

I could go to £30 delivered, considering that the restoration of the unit will cost time and money. Admittedly, maybe not what you are after, but its the only firm offer in this thread so far and is there if you want it.
banned#14
Simon_G
I dunno, to take that off and then prepare it, then re varnish it is hardly a 5 minute job is it? As for £20 per fish, you were robbed, The Tench went on ebay not that long ago for £2.50 delivered, and there is a selection of 10 or so on there now which wont go for much either by the look of it.

I could go to £30 delivered, considering that the restoration of the unit will cost time and money. Admittedly, maybe not what you are after, but its the only firm offer in this thread so far and is there if you want it.

thanks for offer but will pass
and £20 per fish was when i brought them yrs ago thats how much they were new
#15
Ok I'll meet you in the middle at £40 delivered. Cant do any more than that. And they will be going to my old man who is an avid fisherman so you know they will be going to a good home :)
banned#16
Simon_G
Ok I'll meet you in the middle at £40 delivered. Cant do any more than that. And they will be going to my old man who is an avid fisherman so you know they will be going to a good home :)

think i will stick to price at the mo £50 delivered is a good price
my partner would kill me if i let them go for any less lol
and it will cost a bit to post x
#17
I tell you what £45 and its a deal...make an old man happy :)
banned#18
Simon_G
I tell you what £45 and its a deal...make an old man happy :)

ok deal as its going to a good home taking to pm x
#19
Payment made :) Many thanks
#20
Have received the package today but there are in fact 8 fish that are damaged and not the two that you had originally specified. If I had known this I would not have bought the set as it will now cost me a fortune to repair / restore them. I am able and willing to post pictures of the damaged fish to prove this to you. I must admit, wrapping something this delicate in newspaper was not wise, especially when placing the weight of the display case on top of them.

Also the display case needs a lot more than just a rub down and a bit of paint here and there. In the bottom right, the decorative finish on the wood has come away meaning that the whole left panel will have to be replaced.

Will appreciate your thoughts on these problems that were not mentioned in the original listing.

Have posted this as a PM too.
#21
Have not heard anything from chickhappy since I posted that last comment, but have just noticed that they have not been on since the 21st so will wait until they come back online to see what their thoughts are on this matter

(For the mods) Does this not show that the FS forum needs a sub category for potential problem sales so that my bumping to get this seen and sorted out does not ruin it for those who are trying to sell their unwanted items?
banned#22
Simon_G
Have not heard anything from chickhappy since I posted that last comment, but have just noticed that they have not been on since the 21st so will wait until they come back online to see what their thoughts are on this matter

(For the mods) Does this not show that the FS forum needs a sub category for potential problem sales so that my bumping to get this seen and sorted out does not ruin it for those who are trying to sell their unwanted items?

sorry i just got back from working away
i looked over the fish and there wasnt 8 fish damaged can only asume was done in transit
and they way they was sent in a box with lots of newspaper around the fish i feel was not packed in a careless way
so i will offer you a full refund when item is sent back in good faith

also posted in pm
i do feel you can see damage in the picture was quite clear
#23
i looked over the fish and there wasnt 8 fish damaged


But there was when it turned up on my doorstep.

can only asume was done in transit


Quite possibly

and they way they was sent in a box with lots of newspaper around the fish i feel was not packed in a careless way


Each fish was wrapped in loose fitting newspaper with the weight of the display case on top of them, so once again I will stick with my viewpoint of it being a careless way to package such fragile items. What would have made more sense would have been to wrap them up individually and then put them into each of the compartments of the case, therefore at least giving them some form of protection.

so i will offer you a full refund when item is sent back in good faith


I appreciate the offer, however unless it will include the return postage, I cannot see how or what use it will be as I will surely be out of pocket for something that was delivered to me not as described (whether the items were already damaged or damaged in transit is irrelevant, the fact is that there are more damaged fish than were advertised).

Assuming you took out insurance on the package, would it not be more prudent to claim on that, especially as you are claiming that the damage must have been made in transit?

i do feel you can see damage in the picture was quite clear

I would disagree with that. I am off out in the next 30 mins for the day, but will upload pictures either later tonight or tomorrow morning and detail the damage to both the fish and the case and then you will see if the damage is totally visible in the picture you uploaded.
banned#24
Simon_G
But there was when it turned up on my doorstep.



Quite possibly



Each fish was wrapped in loose fitting newspaper with the weight of the display case on top of them, so once again I will stick with my viewpoint of it being a careless way to package such fragile items. What would have made more sense would have been to wrap them up individually and then put them into each of the compartments of the case, therefore at least giving them some form of protection.



I appreciate the offer, however unless it will include the return postage, I cannot see how or what use it will be as I will surely be out of pocket for something that was delivered to me not as described (whether the items were already damaged or damaged in transit is irrelevant, the fact is that there are more damaged fish than were advertised).

Assuming you took out insurance on the package, would it not be more prudent to claim on that, especially as you are claiming that the damage must have been made in transit?


I would disagree with that. I am off out in the next 30 mins for the day, but will upload pictures either later tonight or tomorrow morning and detail the damage to both the fish and the case and then you will see if the damage is totally visible in the picture you uploaded.

why would i take out insurance on the package it was sent standard
you didnt ask for insurance to be added and insurance is covered up to £50 which covers more then what you paid i8 have offered a full refund as what you paid why would i give you more money then what you paid i feel that is unfair and think a mod should come in on this for help
#25
why would i take out insurance on the package


So that YOU as the seller and ME as the buyer are covered in case something like this happened.

you didnt ask for insurance to be added


I should not have had to, in all fairness. As a seller it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that all items arrive in the state they are sent. Most couriers include £50 as standard compensation if something is damaged. Maybe you should look into seeing if Parcel Force include this too. As a general rule I send all items I sell (and I have 130+ feedback on here and nearly 1000 all positive on Ebay) via insured methods whether the buyer asks or not, and I have NEVER had this situation arrise once, but rest in the knowledge that if something was to happen in transit then both me, but more importantly the buyer would be fully covered.

i8 have offered a full refund


Which is admirable of you, however hardly worth me sending it back as I would be £7 out of pocket for something which happened due to something out of my control.

If you have not taken out insurance on it then that is an error on your behalf, an error I really hope you do not make in the future. My error in this was to assume that all sellers thought the way I did and made sure that all packaging and delivery methods covered loss in all eventualities.

I think it would be prudent for you to read the rules of this site again before you list and sell anything else, as you are clearly not aware of the rules of trading on here, but also of your responsibilities both as a seller on this site, and morally.
banned#26
Simon_G
So that YOU as the seller and ME as the buyer are covered in case something like this happened.



I should not have had to, in all fairness. As a seller it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that all items arrive in the state they are sent. Most couriers include £50 as standard compensation if something is damaged. Maybe you should look into seeing if Parcel Force include this too. As a general rule I send all items I sell (and I have 130+ feedback on here and nearly 1000 all positive on Ebay) via insured methods whether the buyer asks or not, and I have NEVER had this situation arrise once, but rest in the knowledge that if something was to happen in transit then both me, but more importantly the buyer would be fully covered.



Which is admirable of you, however hardly worth me sending it back as I would be £7 out of pocket for something which happened due to something out of my control.

If you have not taken out insurance on it then that is an error on your behalf, an error I really hope you do not make in the future. My error in this was to assume that all sellers thought the way I did and made sure that all packaging and delivery methods covered loss in all eventualities.

I think it would be prudent for you to read the rules of this site again before you list and sell anything else, as you are clearly not aware of the rules of trading on here, but also of your responsibilities both as a seller on this site, and morally.

was sent parcel monkey next day delivery i have offered a full refund
so if you wont accept a full refund what else can i do




Which is admirable of you, however hardly worth me sending it back as I would be £7 out of pocket for something which happened due to something out of my control.

If you have not taken out insurance on it then that is an error on your behalf, an error I really hope you do not make in the future. My error in this was to assume that all sellers thought the way I did and made sure that all packaging and delivery methods covered loss in all eventualities.

I think it would be prudent for you to read the rules of this site again before you list and sell anything else, as you are clearly not aware of the rules of trading on here, but also of your responsibilities both as a seller on this site, and morally.


you also put that in pm so you saying im a bad trader i have read the rules and offered full refund on your say so that is a fair trader i think
#27
Not that I feel I should be doing YOUR job for you, as this is YOUR problem as the seller, but a quick look on the Parcel Monkey website shoes a big sign saying that ALL deliveries include £50 insurance, so you are covered in making a claim for damage in transit. Although in all honesty, the box was not damaged, and the items were only damaged due to the way they were IMHO carelessly packed.

As for not accepting a full refund, would you accept £45 back when it would cost you £7 to get it back to the seller, meaning that you were reduced to a refund of £38? No I didn't think so either. Its not a case of not accepting the refund (I would gladly send it back to you and accept the money back), but I don't want to be out of pocket for the whole experience. Include the return postage back in with the refund and of course I will accept it. I paid you £45 for the items delivered and if I was to return them I would expect to have £45 back, not £45 minus the £7. I hope that makes sense.

you also put that in pm so you saying im a bad trader i have read the rules and offered full refund on your say so that is a fair trader i think


I have never stated you are a bad seller at any point in this sale. I have mentioned that I feel that the damage was caused by the way the items were packaged and that you have a responsibility as a seller to make sure that the items get to their destination in the condition they were advertised in.

i have read the rules


Really??? Rule 13...

(13) Goods remain the responsibility of the seller until the buyer takes possession and affirms they are okay. For this reason be honest in your descriptions and include original photos so the buyer knows what they are getting! Also, use a form of insured and signed for delivery to ensure any shipping/delivery mishaps will be covered.

If you cannot adhere to the rules then you should not be selling on this forum.

offered full refund


And once again, the refund you have offered does not cover return postage so I am out of pocket due to inadequate packaging / damage in transit (both of which are out of my control).

To get this issue resolved I would either accept a partial refund to offset the 8 damaged fish and the problems with the case that were not mentioned in the original post, OR a FULL refund including the cost of postage to return it to you.
[mod]#28
A consignment that has sustained internal damage with no external signs of damage is due to poor internal packaging. No claims of this nature are accepted. However if the consignments external package is damaged then the receiver will have to sign for the consignment as damaged.

Whilst ParcelMonkey do offer £50 free insurance they do not accept claims for badly packaged items where the package shows no external damage and there are very specific claim deadlines so I'm unsure if you could claim for this item under their insurance.

http://www.parcelmonkey.co.uk/faqs#10
(13) Goods remain the responsibility of the seller until the buyer takes possession and affirms they are okay. For this reason be honest in your descriptions and include original photos so the buyer knows what they are getting! Also, use a form of insured and signed for delivery to ensure any shipping/delivery mishaps will be covered.


It is the *sellers responsibility to ensure items are adequately packaged and that they have sufficient insurance. This is a private sale and the matter should be resolved directly between the parties. If the seller is offering a full refund minus return postage as a final offer then the buyer must decide if they are willing to accept this or keep the items, but the issues raised should also be reflected in any relevant sales feedback for this trade.
#29
It is the buyers responsibility


You meant its the sellers responsibility SIgma :)
#30
Well I offered a resolution that would not see me out of pocket (seeing as the issues I have are not of my doing) and Chickhappy has been on the site since I posted and has ignored it completely, scrubbing their hands of any responsibility. Says it all really.

Needless to say I will not be dealing with Chickhappy again, and I would advise others to proceed with caution as they obviously do not hold the rules of this site and moral obligations in as high regard as they should do.

This will be reflected in the feedback left.

EDIT - Feedback left....

Item arrived more damaged than was reported by seller. I was expected to return it at my cost meaning I would lose out. Seller washed hands of all responsibility both morally and for site rules. Avoid like the plague
#31
Not that I should have to justify what I am saying but here are a few piccies of the damaged items...

all fish in perfect condition other then 2 which need a bit of tlc


Is what was said by Chickhappy in the first post....these are the five worst damaged fish...others have small chips in the bases or on the fish themselves.

The third fish was whole in the picture but arrived completely broken (hardly surprising when it was wrapped in a small sheet of newspaper really)
The damage to the last fish in this set of pictures could not be seen as it was facing the other way in the original picture.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/carp.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/bream.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/perch.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/salmon.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/shad.jpg
#32
the price is cheap as there are a marks on the case and straches


What Chickhappy meant was that parts of the wooden case are missing, its dented in most places and the back panel needs replacing as something has tried to put a hole in it at some point.

Here is a pic of the damage to the back panel that could not be seen in the original picture as it was totally covered by the fish.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/case.jpg

And here is the original picture supplied.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/original.jpg
banned#33
Simon_G
What Chickhappy meant was that parts of the wooden case are missing, its dented in most places and the back panel needs replacing as something has tried to put a hole in it at some point.

Here is a pic of the damage to the back panel that could not be seen in the original picture as it was totally covered by the fish.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/case.jpg

And here is the original picture supplied.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/spurs4ever/General/original.jpg

i must say that that is a complete joke pics you have posted this was not like this when item sent i also offered a refund of the full amount what you paid
and as for not replied how can i be on when i was working away
also thought it was eight fish
#34
i must say that that is a complete joke pics you have posted this was not like this when item sent i also offered a refund of the full amount what you paid
and as for not replied how can i be on when i was working away
also thought it was eight fish


First of all, pictures do not lie. They may have not left your possession damaged but the inadequate packaging meant that they broke in transit. The goods are YOUR responsibility up until they reach me, so if they were damaged in transit you are liable to repair or replace them, its that simple, but no, you keep dodging your responsibilities.
As for the offer of your refund, like i said, I would gladly take the refund but why should I be out of pocket (as I would have to pay for the return postage) when the items seemed to be damaged due to your inadequate packaging methods?
Also, after closer inspection there are more than 8 fish damaged, the five pictures I posted are the worst of the damaged fish, the others have chips and small marks in the bases. So yes there are 8 damaged fish and probably more if I was to look closely at them.

Anyway feedback has been left and this will go down as a lesson not to trust everyone on this site.
banned#35
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