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FS: Sonos WiFi HiFi system with various components, all mint! £625.00

thejinx Avatar
2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months agoFeedback:1 Positive/0 Neutral/0 Negative
Hi Everyone, today I have for sale a Sonos WiFi audio system comprising of the following components:

2 x Sonos Zone Player S5/PLAY:5 Wifi Speakers (Black)
1 x Sonos Zone Bridge
2 x Sonos Wireless 100 Dock (for non-thunderbolt iPhones)

All of the items are in perfect condition.

I unfortunately don't have the original boxes and packaging for either of the S5 speakers nor the Zone Bridge, although all cables and accessories are present and correct for all items.

I would like to sell the entire system as a package, although would consider splitting the sale up if there is demand at the right price(s).

Comparable used item listings on ebay and other sites average out (ex-delivery) at:
1 S5 - £265
1 Zone Bridge - £25
1 iPhone Dock - £35

For the lot I'd be looking in the ball park of £625, but will consider sensible and reasonable offers.

Additional, larger picture: http://oi58.tinypic.com/15ydp46.jpg
- thejinx
Shipping/Payment:
Payment Via paypal, items shall be shipped either by courier or royal mail, and shall be tracked. Once a buyer is secured, we'll talk with you to work out what the best delivery method would be. A quick estimate from Royal Mail recorded delivery is around £42 for the lot in one package.
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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months agoFeedback:1 Positive/0 Neutral/0 Negative
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#1
ill offer £250 for one of the 5`s and the bridge.

For the lost the best I could stretch to is prob £450
#2
Thanks KapA, I PM'd you a response.
#3
Hi

If its still available I can offer 200 for one of the 5
#4
Ranjanx
Hi

If its still available I can offer 200 for one of the 5

Hey Ranjanx, the lot is still for sale, I've PM'd you more details. Thanks
1 Like #5
thejinx
Ranjanx
Hi

If its still available I can offer 200 for one of the 5

Hey Ranjanx, the lot is still for sale, I've PM'd you more details. Thanks

I believe we are supposed to cover all negotiations here in the thread.

Can you please your location so that I can consider if collection would be possible ? If not, I'll expect some proof of working condition -may be screen shot of control centre with serial number etc ? We could then agree payment terms given that you don't have any feedback here.

I hope you appreciate where I'm coming from ?
#6
Ranjanx
thejinx
Ranjanx
Hi

If its still available I can offer 200 for one of the 5

Hey Ranjanx, the lot is still for sale, I've PM'd you more details. Thanks

I believe we are supposed to cover all negotiations here in the thread.

Can you please your location so that I can consider if collection would be possible ? If not, I'll expect some proof of working condition -may be screen shot of control centre with serial number etc ? We could then agree payment terms given that you don't have any feedback here.

I hope you appreciate where I'm coming from ?


Thanks for the pointer, I hadn't realised that was the case (Whoops!).
I totally appreciate that I'm a fresh face about these parts, with no feedback to boot... happy to help authenticate things any way I can:

I am located in Louth, Lincolnshire. LN11 9FE.
The serial number on the S5 is: 00-0E-58-59-C0-AE-G

Serial number as shown in-app from PC controller:
http://oi57.tinypic.com/20u4fpk.jpg

and physically on the S5 unit itself:
http://oi61.tinypic.com/w0m802.jpg


The PC controller playing music through the S5 can be seen here:
http://oi61.tinypic.com/107sz2e.jpg
The playlist shown was screenshotted just now (19:42 25/07/14) from Napster's Featured playlists. This should help illustrate the online capabilities are functional and that the speaker works- it isn't throwing any errors while playing.

I'm unsure what I can provide in addition to this other than a video of the speaker in operation, although that wouldn't rule out any foul play with audio coming from any other sources...

If there's anything additional that you'd like to know/see or if there's anything else I can do to assuage any doubts, please let me know.

Thanks
James

Edited By: thejinx on Jul 25, 2014 20:12: I hadn't properly formatted the last [img]
#7
Thanks James.

I think you have covered what you could have. I just checked with sonos and this unit seems to be 3.5 years old so no chance of transferring or buying an extended warranty. That makes me think again. I'll do some more research on what people say about that old a sonos s5.
#8
You are correct that extended warranty is not available directly from Sonos, as having been a long-term sonos customer, I can honestly say that I've never had need of such facility on this or any other components I've either owned or know of other people owning.

However, there are third parties who will offer warranty or insurance on sonos equipment for peace of mind, although from the companies I've checked, the warranty cost in this instance does not yield a sensible return when you take into account that you'd be paying up to half the asking price for that policy.

I've seen various people stating that they expect 10+ years out of S5 components, although there are of course others who have experienced problems or failures before then.

I'd like to think that as there are no moving parts, light usage thus far, and not having experienced any problems for 3.5 years~ there are many problem-free operational years in its future, although buying anything second-hand on the internet sold-as-seen is always a risk, especially if you're expecting to get new/retailer levels of warranty and support from a private seller.
#9
thejinx
You are correct that extended warranty is not available directly from Sonos, as having been a long-term sonos customer, I can honestly say that I've never had need of such facility on this or any other components I've either owned or know of other people owning.

However, there are third parties who will offer warranty or insurance on sonos equipment for peace of mind, although from the companies I've checked, the warranty cost in this instance does not yield a sensible return when you take into account that you'd be paying up to half the asking price for that policy.

I've seen various people stating that they expect 10+ years out of S5 components, although there are of course others who have experienced problems or failures before then.

I'd like to think that as there are no moving parts, light usage thus far, and not having experienced any problems for 3.5 years~ there are many problem-free operational years in its future, although buying anything second-hand on the internet sold-as-seen is always a risk, especially if you're expecting to get new/retailer levels of warranty and support from a private seller.
I would agree with all that you've said. However, being in my position I'm looking for the right level of risk or peace of mind. Would you be open to a lower offer ?
#10
I can appreciate that. I'm open to offers, what kind of price point were you considering?
#11
How does £160 sound ?
#12
And I suggest part payment before and part after delivery ?
#13
Thanks kindly for the offer, although they are £350 new. I've had it for 3 years and hardly used it. I am missing the box but have all other items.

£160 is too low for me; broken spares/repairs items are selling for higher than this on ebay: Example Listing

As I am after a quick sale and I'm not having to pay sellers fees as I would with ebay, I can get down to £180 + p&p for this fully working item, if this helps any?

With regards to part payment, I can't take the risk considering part payment is already a reduced amount to begin with, I can't risk the buyer not following through, as I have no protection at all. The buyer on the other hand would have complete protection in paying up-front via paypal, as there is a comprehensive and arbitrared returns system.

I hope the notion doesn't insight offense, although I'm in a position where I cannot risk the sale either falling through or not being completed on the back of £80. There's no seller protection here, whereas both card companies and paypal offer two stages of returns should you need to get a refund.

Edited By: thejinx on Jul 26, 2014 15:32
#14
thejinx
Thanks kindly for the offer, although they are £350 new. I've had it for 3 years and hardly used it. I am missing the box but have all other items.

£160 is too low for me; broken spares/repairs items are selling for higher than this on ebay: Example Listing



As I am after a quick sale and I'm not having to pay sellers fees as I would with ebay, I can get down to £180 + p&p for this fully working item, if this helps any?

With regards to part payment, I can't take the risk considering part payment is already a reduced amount to begin with, I can't risk the buyer not following through, as I have no protection at all. The buyer on the other hand would have complete protection in paying up-front via paypal, as there is a comprehensive and arbitrared returns system.

I hope the notion doesn't insight offense, although I'm in a position where I cannot risk the sale either falling through or not being completed on the back of £80. There's no seller protection here, whereas both card companies and paypal offer two stages of returns should you need to get a refund.


Hi

The listing you've quoted is for a reasonably repairable unit, maybe even within warranty given thAt it's the newer play 5. If anything, it kind of proves that there are so many things that could go wrong with these things.

Without dragging it too much, I'd say £170 would be a fair middle ground.

About the payment , generally we have PayPal gift as a mode of payment on these forums. Hence the reluctance to pay first without any feedback. If you are accepting this as a PayPal seller and I can see PayPal offering payment protection, I wouldn't mind paying first. If not, I'm afraid I'll have to request part payment where I am opening myself to a risk first, you are only doing do after I've received the item. Even then, I have a limited but consistent feedback here.

Edited By: Ranjanx on Jul 26, 2014 16:47
#15
With respect, I disagree. I've asked the longevity/lifecycle question to both other users and Sonos forums directly As seen here.

As stated by a moderator on the official Sonos support forum: "the failure rate is higher in the first few weeks then it drops to near zero for seven to ten years. At that point it will begin to creep up with a different set of characteristic, for the model, failures."

The price at an absolute minimum is £180 plus p&p. I'd only accept payment in the format of a proper transaction rather than a gift, as that gives protection to the buyer. With regards to postage, I would offer recorded delivery as a minumum and recommend insurance on the package, as I'd originally stated when we opened PM dialog.

I can get more for this item elsewhere although wanted a hassle free transaction and was happy to take less based upon that. We've now reached the point where that balance has inverted.

Thanks kindly for the opportunity, although £180 is the minimum I am prepared to deal at- take it or leave it.
#16
thejinx
With respect, I disagree. I've asked the longevity/lifecycle question to both other users and Sonos forums directly As seen here.

As stated by a moderator on the official Sonos support forum: "the failure rate is higher in the first few weeks then it drops to near zero for seven to ten years. At that point it will begin to creep up with a different set of characteristic, for the model, failures."

The price at an absolute minimum is £180 plus p&p. I'd only accept payment in the format of a proper transaction rather than a gift, as that gives protection to the buyer. With regards to postage, I would offer recorded delivery as a minumum and recommend insurance on the package, as I'd originally stated when we opened PM dialog.

I can get more for this item elsewhere although wanted a hassle free transaction and was happy to take less based upon that. We've now reached the point where that balance has inverted.

Thanks kindly for the opportunity, although £180 is the minimum I am prepared to deal at- take it or leave it.


I think I'll pass on this occasion. Thanks for all the time you've put in. I only wish I had asked for the age in the first instance but got distracted with the other factors.
#17
Quite alright, sorry we couldn't come to an agreement but it'd got to the point where neither of us were willing to move further.

The age of the component should not discourage anyone from being interested however, as a quote from Sonos staff intimated earlier- the units are expected to last 7-10 years before issues arise.


Edited By: thejinx on Jul 27, 2014 10:13: typo 'ask' -> 'last'
#18
£380.00 for both S5's delivered here been recently let down on this site badly though so would have to be 200 upfront and 180 on receipt of the speakers

Let me know

Thanks Simon
#19
Hey Simon, thanks for the offer. I'm sorry to hear that you've recently been let down on here- this is my first listing and I'm starting to see why ebay gets so much trade!

I'll be completely straight- I can deal at £380 for the pair, although the idea or post/part payment is making me twitch a little. If you'd grant me the time to explain my position: power solely remains with the buyer and so long as an insured/revokable payment method is used such as a credit card or paypal transaction other than a gift, the buyer is able to get their money back entirely in the event of any problems without recourse. The seller however is entirely powerless and has no means of arbitration of refund once items have left.

I hope that this can perhaps instill some further confidence in the trade, and I know its asking a lot of you that a person with 0 feedback or deal history on here is asking you to essentially be the party to take the risks with regards to payment, although those risks can be entirely mitigated twofold- if you made payment via a paypal transaction using a credit card, you would be able to open a case with paypal in event of any problems (of which there won't be!) or contact your card company to immediately reverse the payment at no fee to yourself.

I know that this is putting the onus on you to take the initial risk, although when you consider the level of protection you get in this way, that risk is non-existant.

Is this agreeable?

Thanks,
James
#20
Other option is to do the trade in-person. I'm around 80 miles away from you I think. Could meet at either location or 1/2 way if that would make things any more agreeable?

If in person, I can only travel away on weekeends so could call round and drop them in today if you're interested?

Let me know what you think, cheers

Edited By: thejinx on Jul 27, 2014 10:36: added more info
#21
Hi if you want to deliver to me thats great, I am working today until 4:30 though so meeting half way is out I am afraid , I can pay by Paypal no problem that covers me but means you will pay £13.12 commission , If you fancy a drive to Scarborough and have a lovely coffee at my home that would be cool and get 380 smackers in your hand

Let me know cheers Simon

Check your pm
[mod]#22
sidogboddy

Check your pm


Please remember that until an offer is agreed to, the parties should still be transparent by making their comments here in thread.
#23
MikeT
sidogboddy

Check your pm

Please remember that until an offer is agreed to, the parties should still be transparent by making their comments here in thread.

Thanks for the info Mike, A trade was agreed and handled. There are some remaining items from the deal, I'll re-post these as a separate thread for cleanliness.


Edited By: thejinx on Jul 27, 2014 21:24: Added info rgrds closing the thread & opening new
[mod]#24
thejinx
MikeT
sidogboddy

Check your pm

Please remember that until an offer is agreed to, the parties should still be transparent by making their comments here in thread.

Thanks for the info Mike, A trade was agreed and handled. There are some remaining items from the deal, I'll re-post these as a separate thread for cleanliness.


If you wish to relist ANY components from this thread you need to request this one be expired and wait 7 days. Please take the time to just have a full read of the FS/FT rules before you do so. You can find them here.
#25
magicjay1986
thejinx
MikeT
sidogboddy

Check your pm

Please remember that until an offer is agreed to, the parties should still be transparent by making their comments here in thread.

Thanks for the info Mike, A trade was agreed and handled. There are some remaining items from the deal, I'll re-post these as a separate thread for cleanliness.


If you wish to relist ANY components from this thread you need to request this one be expired and wait 7 days. Please take the time to just have a full read of the FS/FT rules before you do so. You can find them here.

Already expired after my last comment and with regards to reading the rules, rest assured that I have, repeatedly.
Thanks again for the pointer though, nice seeing so many mods interested, didn't realise it was so bustling with you guys.

Edited By: thejinx on Jul 28, 2014 00:12: Typo 'repeatedly'

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