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FS Sony Aino Brand New and Sim Free £290.00

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7y, 2m agoPosted 7 years, 2 months agoFeedback:35 Positive/0 Neutral/0 Negative
Sony Ericsson Aino (8GB) Black The Sony Ericsson Aino is a fantastically loaded phone that is capable of syncing with the Playstation 3 and also features amazing functions. Sony Ericsson Aino brings in some heavy multimedia firepower such as a PS3-inspired touch menu, a large 3-inch touchscreen, VGA30fps video recording. Wi-Fi and GPS are also in the mix to make the device that much more tempting. The Remote Play feature enables you to control and access media content on Playstation 3 from your phone. It's a brand new phone, I was lucky enough to win it from the cokezone competition.The phone is sim free and unbranded. Includes all the accessories that comes with the phone. Genuine UK bidders only, will send once payment has been cleared.

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rrp of this phone is around 390
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Shipping/Payment:
£7.00Royal Mail 1st Class Standard
paypal gift or bank transfer

Royal Mail Special Delivery £7.00
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7y, 2m agoPosted 7 years, 2 months agoFeedback:35 Positive/0 Neutral/0 Negative
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#2
shipping should be 1st class recorded.. made a mistake~
#3
lowered price to £290 after realising ebay charging a final value fee
#4
tkgames
shipping should be 1st class recorded.. made a mistake~


...and still the level of compensation for loss or damage in transit will only be to a maximum value of "100 times the cost of a first class stamp"; that is £39.00.

[ http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/content1?mediaId=51200700&catId=500201#28700229 ]
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Am I entitled to compensation with Recorded Signed For™?
You are entitled to a maximum of the value of 100 First Class stamps in compensation.

For items posted which have no intrinsic value, or where there is no proof of posting, there will be compensation for loss, damage and delay of a minimum of 6 x 1st class stamps. For lost or damaged items with proof of posting and evidence of value (such as an invoice or receipt) customers will be entitled to a postage refund plus compensation up to the value of the item, with a maximum of the value of 100 First Class stamps.

If you need to send valuable items (e.g. cash, jewellery, tickets & vouchers) use our Special Delivery™ 9.00am service or Special Delivery™ Next Day service which provides compensation for valuable items. If you send items from the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, there are slightly different compensation arrangements. Please contact your local sales centre on 0845 7950 950 for more details.
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I suggest you look at insured methods of despatch, such as a dedicated courier or the Royal Mail Special Delivery service.

tkgames
lowered price to £290 after realising ebay charging a final value fee


Not quite sure what you meant with this comment (the second 'bump' of your thread). This is not eBay.

This aside, would you post to a member with relatively high feedback prior to receiving payment so that the item can be viewed in advance? Full costs for return (by an insured method with ample cover) will be met by the buyer if the item is not suitable.

Alternatively, is local collection from your residence an option?

BFN,

fp.
#5
fanpages
...and still the level of compensation for loss or damage in transit will only be to a maximum value of "100 times the cost of a first class stamp"; that is £39.00.

[ http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/content1?mediaId=51200700&catId=500201#28700229 ]
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Am I entitled to compensation with Recorded Signed For™?
You are entitled to a maximum of the value of 100 First Class stamps in compensation.

For items posted which have no intrinsic value, or where there is no proof of posting, there will be compensation for loss, damage and delay of a minimum of 6 x 1st class stamps. For lost or damaged items with proof of posting and evidence of value (such as an invoice or receipt) customers will be entitled to a postage refund plus compensation up to the value of the item, with a maximum of the value of 100 First Class stamps.

If you need to send valuable items (e.g. cash, jewellery, tickets & vouchers) use our Special Delivery™ 9.00am service or Special Delivery™ Next Day service which provides compensation for valuable items. If you send items from the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, there are slightly different compensation arrangements. Please contact your local sales centre on 0845 7950 950 for more details.
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I suggest you look at insured methods of despatch, such as a dedicated courier or the Royal Mail Special Delivery service.



Not quite sure what you meant with this comment (the second 'bump' of your thread). This is not eBay.

This aside, would you post to a member with relatively high feedback prior to receiving payment so that the item can be viewed in advance? Full costs for return (by an insured method with ample cover) will be met by the buyer if the item is not suitable.

Alternatively, is local collection from your residence an option?

BFN,

fp.


Royal Mail Special Delivery or local collection works~
thanks
#6
Where are you located tkgames? I maybe interested in purchasing it but would prefer cash on collectiong jobby.

Thanks
#7
tkgames
Royal Mail Special Delivery or local collection works~
thanks


Thank you. As mentioned already, where are you located for collection?

I'll also repeat my first question:

...would you post to a member with relatively high feedback prior to receiving payment so that the item can be viewed in advance? Full costs for return (by an insured method with ample cover) will be met by the buyer if the item is not suitable.

BFN,

fp.
#8
coventry but i can go to london if required
#9
fanpages
Thank you. As mentioned already, where are you located for collection?

I'll also repeat my first question:

...would you post to a member with relatively high feedback prior to receiving payment so that the item can be viewed in advance? Full costs for return (by an insured method with ample cover) will be met by the buyer if the item is not suitable.

BFN,

fp.


i don't like the idea of sending the item to a third person as its quite valuable
#10
Me happy with Coventry, I live in Birmingham. Would you be willing to accept £250 and I'm ready to buy as soon as.
I need a phone for my wife as her one is busted courtesy of my 2 yr old and her birthdays next week.lol

Thanks !!
#11
280?
considering the phone is around 350 on ebay and 380 on play
no P&P since you can collect in person
i am ready to trade whenever you are free
#12
Unfortunately I cant stretch that far. However you will find solace in knowing you got your cash in your hand. I prefer the cash in hand method. Thats exactly how I sold my IPhone. Like I said its a birthday present for the wife so i'm against the clock if I collect.

Thanks for a swift reply.
#13
I agree with cash in hand and that's why i am willing to sell at this price
the best i can offer is to knock another 10 quids off
we can trade now if you can come to coventry at this hour
#14
£250 is my budget. It will end up getting broken by my 2yr old or my wife so its going to be an expensive broken phone anyway. Let us know if you change your mind. Me off to bed.

Thanks for the reply.
#15
fine....you got yourself a deal...you are really good at bargaining...
#16
tkgames
coventry but i can go to london if required


tkgames
i don't like the idea of sending the item to a third person as its quite valuable


Not sure what you meant by "third person"... I am (or was, until you accepted the offer above) an interested party.

I also work in Central London.

Should the deal not complete I'll retain subscribed to the thread for updates.

BFN,

fp.
#17
The sellars has agreed the sale of the advertised product (Sony Aino phone) at the price of £250. Just got to collect the phone and pay the money.
#18
humkar
The sellars has agreed the sale of the advertised product (Sony Aino phone) at the price of £250. Just got to collect the phone and pay the money.


so...when do you want to collect the phone?
#19
the price of this should be at least £330. there is no way i would sell one of these brand new for such a low price. if i were you tkgames id get it on ebay, £250 is a pathetic offer, thats what this site is coming to now, people making stupid offers when items are worth a lot more.....
#20
francodevil
the price of this should be at least £330. there is no way i would sell one of these brand new for such a low price. if i were you tkgames id get it on ebay, £250 is a pathetic offer, thats what this site is coming to now, people making stupid offers when items are worth a lot more.....


Items for sale here are valued according to several factors:

a) the selling price for a comparative item (either new, or pre-owned) at a recognised retailer (not an auction site),
b) the physical condition & additional attributes in excess of the standard specification of the item,
c) their worth to an interested party,
d) their worth to the seller,
e) the seller's current financial situation,
f) the buyer's current financial situation, and
g) the payment method(s) involved (including, but not limited to, the physical condition & perceived value of any part-exchange/trade items used as whole or part payment).

The resultant price reached by mutual consent by both seller & buyer is, by definition, the market value (in a restricted market of the HotUKDeals members at the time of the sale).

Looking back over this thread I am also surprised the price has dropped so much.

You may draw your own conclusions as to why that is the case; looking back at trading history, the thread of negotiations, and your own knowledge of the product, but comparing prices to what the same item can be sold for on eBay is not valid (in my opinion).

If I were to find a similar item that sold for £100 on eBay I doubt the seller would accept that. If an offer of £100 was accepted this would alert me to a potential scam & I would no longer be participating in the discussions.

If everybody follows the HotUKDeals For Sale/For Trade Trading Rules published for the safety & security of all members then anybody's experience here can be a good, if not great, one.

Nobody is forcing the seller to accept any offer made even if the asking price has been met. The seller is free to retract their item from sale at any point; although it would be a common courtesy to do so prior to a party physically making payment.

However, issues with items that may render them useless, or unsuitable, for sale may arise even after a buyer has withheld their side of the transaction & the associated funds (and/or traded items) have been exchanged.

Equally a buyer can retract any offer made at any time.

Do you have any suggestions how to make your experience better?

BFN,

fp.
#21
fanpages
Do you have any suggestions how to make your experience better?


yes i do. how about people on here start making 'honest' offers instead of taking the mickey with silly, below worth offers. we are all a community on here and try to help each other out, however a small (ish, but growing) minority constantly take the p**s which leaves those who need the money such as tkgames to accept substandard offers, which isnt what this community is about.

i think if something is blatantly worth a lot more than what the offer is then it should be ignored without any explanation, agree?
bfn
fd
#22
Nobody is forcing the seller to accept any offer made even if the asking price has been met. The seller is free to retract their item from sale at any point; although it would be a common courtesy to do so prior to a party physically making payment.

take note tkgames
#23
With all due respect. I made an offer and told him my position on what I can afford and he being the seller had the choice to accept or decline. His more then welcome to go for another offer if tkgames wishes to do so.
#24
humkar
With all due respect. I made an offer and told him my position on what I can afford and he being the seller had the choice to accept or decline. His more then welcome to go for another offer if tkgames wishes to do so.


totally agree, i just felt that it was a little low for what the item is worth.

on this site what happens is you get 1 person who accepts an offer of say -£4 for say -modern warfare 2 and before you know it, the people selling it are all getting offered £4 with buyers including a link as proof of how much the said game goes for, once a precedent is set, everyone thinks its the law!
#25
francodevil
yes i do. how about people on here start making 'honest' offers instead of taking the mickey with silly, below worth offers. we are all a community on here and try to help each other out, however a small (ish, but growing) minority constantly take the p**s which leaves those who need the money such as tkgames to accept substandard offers, which isnt what this community is about.

i think if something is blatantly worth a lot more than what the offer is then it should be ignored without any explanation, agree?
bfn
fd


No, I don't think you are wrong; just that this site was formed so that the public could create a community to share tips about good deals & everybody is (or should be) here as they have an interest in saving money. Unfortunately, yes, as you rightly said, this carries over into the "For Sale/For Trade" forum with regards bargaining & no matter what you value an item at there will always be a similar product for sale somewhere (of a comparable or of a lesser price) just waiting to be brought to your attention.

Many sellers are just happy to find an outlet for their unwanted items & will accept whatever they can get (especially in the current economic climate).

If, for example, I had an item that I valued highly that was more suitable to be offered for sale in a dedicated marketplace (for example, a car that could be placed on the Auto Trader web site) I would not chose to list it here as the thread would just generate comments from "tyre kickers" who had no intention to buy at all.

However, if I have something that I was going to dispose of as it had no value to me or I had nowhere to store it, but I thought it may have value to somebody else, I may well offer it for sale or I may offer to give it away to any party who could collect it (or just offer me the cost of postage). That is, what I believe, makes HotUKDeals a great community to be part of.

Alternatively, I may (as I have on many occasions previously) decide that I'd sooner give the item(s) to a local charity shop.

This aside, a seller is trying to gain as much for an item as possible. A buyer is trying to pay as little as possible. The two parties meet at a mutually agreeable figure, or they don't. That figure is the "market value" here at HotUKDeals. As I mentioned above, if the seller is unhappy he or she may retract the item from sale & list it elsewhere (for auction, in the window of their local newsagent, on the classifieds board at a supermarket, or wherever).

I am conscious we are turning this sale thread into a "misc" thread topic. Would you like to move the discussion to the "misc" forum by creating a separate thread? I am sure other HotUKDeals members will have many & varied viewpoints on this matter. If you do take this action, please link back to this thread as it is easier to discuss individual cases initially prior to widening the discussion to site-wide practice.

BFN,

fp.
#26
francodevil
totally agree, i just felt that it was a little low for what the item is worth.

on this site what happens is you get 1 person who accepts an offer of say -£4 for say -modern warfare 2 and before you know it, the people selling it are all getting offered £4 with buyers including a link as proof of how much the said game goes for, once a precedent is set, everyone thinks its the law!


I accepted this price because he is buying it for his wife as a gift and I got this phone for free anyway.
#27
tkgames
I accepted this price because he is buying it for his wife as a gift and I got this phone for free anyway.


Oh dear.

You have just admitted violating one of the trading rules.

I wondered why you dropped the price so readily.

BFN,

fp.
#28
which rule did i violate?
i stated in the op that this was a competition win from cokezone
#29
tkgames
which rule did i violate?
i stated in the op that this was a competition win from cokezone


Sorry, I missed that in your description. My apologies that the thread got this far without me spotting that fact sooner.

FYI:
i won somthing in a competition am i allowed to sell it on here?? (Comment #24)

aScottishBloke
Super Moderator
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Competition wins fall foul of the current fs/ft restrictions and can't be resold.

Of course the OP may resell the previously purchased items.
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BFN,

fp.
#30
Am I allowed to continue with this purchase or not?
#31
just met humkar and sold the phone
he is a really nice guy
now i only need to figure out how to give him a positive feedback...
banned#32
Thread closed.

fanpages quite clearly pointed out the problem we have with the current trade, but in the interests of self gain, this was ignored.


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