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Mint Condition iPhone 4 16GB Black **£360.00**

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Just got it replaced at the apple store in bullring 20 mins ago. so absolutely mint condition. receipt not included as it has all my details on it. On the tesco network, but my mate said tha…
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5y, 8m agoPosted 5 years, 8 months agoFeedback:50 Positive/0 Neutral/0 Negative
Just got it replaced at the apple store in bullring 20 mins ago. so absolutely mint condition.

receipt not included as it has all my details on it.

On the tesco network, but my mate said that they come unlocked from the apple store but as I do not have any other micro sims to test, im selling it as locked to the tesco network.

comes with box, charger and USB lead, no earphones but I will include a iphone 2g dock that works perfectly.
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Edited By: massmail666 on Jun 20, 2011 16:52: Added extra pic
#2
are you able to speak to the apple store and see if it is indeed open to all networks. im after one but need it to work on t-mobile.
#3
noveltyisland
are you able to speak to the apple store and see if it is indeed open to all networks. im after one but need it to work on t-mobile.


I'll second this. Alternatively, can you give us the firmware and baseband version so we can see if it's easily jailbroken and unlocked that way?

On the basis of it being either unlocked or unlockable, I'll offer £350, half cash now, half on arrival (simply because I'm expecting a PayPal payment of about £170 tomorrow) though we both have high feedback, not anticipating a problem!
#4
firmware 4.3.3 (8J2)
baseband: 04.10.01

I wont be able to go back to apple store for a while due to work, so please assume its locked on tesco.
#5
no good for me then - i'm out :(
#6
i think you can use o2 simcards in locked tesco phones dont know if this helps you or not?
#7
Seems like this baseband is a toughie to jailbreak and then unlock.

If you can find another SIM (just get a free Orange one from somewhere, cut it and try it! Or pop down to your local mobile phone shop and ask to borrow an Orange/T-Mob etc sim and try it) and if it's unlocked, I again will offer £350.

Otherwise, I too am out.
1 Like #8
iPhone replacements are like for like
If it was locked before it will be locked now on the new handset.
#9
if it is unlocked i can offer £345 and pick up so u can save your postage and get cash in hand.
#10
adam786
if it is unlocked i can offer £345 and pick up so u can save your postage and get cash in hand.


I would suggest before selling anything to adam786 for collection, you check his feedback and this thread. The gist of it is that he collected something from me, checked it completely, haggled the price and then took it. He then complained about the size of it later (even though he had ample time to check and try it) and rather than returning it (because it was too small apparently) he tried to extort a partial refund from me.

Nonetheless, I've thought about it and can live without it being unlocked. If you can accept half payment now and half on receipt (again simply because I won't have the remainder of the funds in my bank until tomorrow or Wednesday) then I can offer you your asking of £360.

Let me know.
#11
AV1985
adam786
if it is unlocked i can offer £345 and pick up so u can save your postage and get cash in hand.


I would suggest before selling anything to adam786 for collection, you check his feedback and this thread. The gist of it is that he collected something from me, checked it completely, haggled the price and then took it. He then complained about the size of it later (even though he had ample time to check and try it) and rather than returning it (because it was too small apparently) he tried to extort a partial refund from me.

Nonetheless, I've thought about it and can live without it being unlocked. If you can accept half payment now and half on receipt (again simply because I won't have the remainder of the funds in my bank until tomorrow or Wednesday) then I can offer you your asking of £360.

Let me know.


cool deal, will PM now. i've noticed ur in Coventry which isn't too far from brum, so I dont mind you collecting if that helps?

also yeah I saw that thread when it was fresh. disgusting buyer, what kind of person does that.
#12
massmail666
AV1985
adam786
if it is unlocked i can offer £345 and pick up so u can save your postage and get cash in hand.


I would suggest before selling anything to adam786 for collection, you check his feedback and this thread. The gist of it is that he collected something from me, checked it completely, haggled the price and then took it. He then complained about the size of it later (even though he had ample time to check and try it) and rather than returning it (because it was too small apparently) he tried to extort a partial refund from me.

Nonetheless, I've thought about it and can live without it being unlocked. If you can accept half payment now and half on receipt (again simply because I won't have the remainder of the funds in my bank until tomorrow or Wednesday) then I can offer you your asking of £360.

Let me know.


cool deal, will PM now. i've noticed ur in Coventry which isn't too far from brum, so I dont mind you collecting if that helps?

also yeah I saw that thread when it was fresh. disgusting buyer, what kind of person does that.


Agreed.

I won't have time to make it down to Birmingham I'm afraid. You're welcome to pop down to Coventry if you'd prefer to save the £6 postage? Course I'll still pay the £360, you'd still have to drive!
#13
av1985 is still crying iv moved on so tht must tell u something about him..
but gd luck to both of u

as am not one to cry even if its over a year later.
iv had no problem with anyother sellers or buyers.

so stop crying and move on u..

massmail666
AV1985
adam786
if it is unlocked i can offer £345 and pick up so u can save your postage and get cash in hand.


I would suggest before selling anything to adam786 for collection, you check his feedback and this thread. The gist of it is that he collected something from me, checked it completely, haggled the price and then took it. He then complained about the size of it later (even though he had ample time to check and try it) and rather than returning it (because it was too small apparently) he tried to extort a partial refund from me.

Nonetheless, I've thought about it and can live without it being unlocked. If you can accept half payment now and half on receipt (again simply because I won't have the remainder of the funds in my bank until tomorrow or Wednesday) then I can offer you your asking of £360.

Let me know.


cool deal, will PM now. i've noticed ur in Coventry which isn't too far from brum, so I dont mind you collecting if that helps?

also yeah I saw that thread when it was fresh. disgusting buyer, what kind of person does that.
#14
adam786
av1985 is still crying iv moved on so tht must tell u something about him..
but gd luck to both of u

as am not one to cry even if its over a year later.
iv had no problem with anyother sellers or buyers.

so stop crying and move on u..

massmail666
AV1985
adam786
if it is unlocked i can offer £345 and pick up so u can save your postage and get cash in hand.


I would suggest before selling anything to adam786 for collection, you check his feedback and this thread. The gist of it is that he collected something from me, checked it completely, haggled the price and then took it. He then complained about the size of it later (even though he had ample time to check and try it) and rather than returning it (because it was too small apparently) he tried to extort a partial refund from me.

Nonetheless, I've thought about it and can live without it being unlocked. If you can accept half payment now and half on receipt (again simply because I won't have the remainder of the funds in my bank until tomorrow or Wednesday) then I can offer you your asking of £360.

Let me know.


cool deal, will PM now. i've noticed ur in Coventry which isn't too far from brum, so I dont mind you collecting if that helps?

also yeah I saw that thread when it was fresh. disgusting buyer, what kind of person does that.


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#15
PM from adam786 in response to this thread:

"You carry on my brother like i said to u before i have notting to say to you i will sort that matter out with you on the day of kiyamat.
like i said before allah nos best."
#16
it wont be unlocked unless it was unlocked before taking to apple store, they read the originals locking status and replace based on the previous phone - so only unlocked if it was originally!
#17
out of interest if it's a replacement from the apple store, shouldn't the warranty run out on the 20th Sep and not the 8th Sep as per the screen shot?
#18
To confirm, I received this today but have PMed seller with a problem. This is that the IMEI and Serial on the box do not match the phone.

This was a gift from me to someone and this is quite a major problem for me as that person is quite picky and will now know that I've got it from somewhere not so legit. Plus, this raises the unfortunate question from me about this being legitimate, stolen, etc even though I'm not doubting the seller in this instance.

Maybe Apple replacements always come unboxed, I don't know.

Either way, since I have only paid half upfront (£180) I will be looking for a refund from seller of £187 to cover postage costs and I can post this item back to the seller tomorrow to be back to him by Friday.

I hope this can be resolved amicable and reasonably so neither party gets too worked up or stressed about it. We both have high feedback, neither is out to scam the other (I showed trust by paying some upfront, he also showed trust by sending before full payment) and I believe that this is an honest mistake, and that the seller either didn't know about this, or did but didn't realise how big an issue it would be.

Hope we can get this resolved but thought I should also explain in the thread.
3 Likes #19
Its a replacment from apple the imei wont be the same as the one on the box as its a replacment
Its perfectly fine.
#20
localboy
Its a replacment from apple the imei wont be the same as the one on the box as its a replacment
Its perfectly fine.


So at least one of the fears (the not legit) one is gone. However, for the person I want to give it to, it won't be good enough as they are very picky (it's family, not a friend!) and will pick up immediately on the "oh so you got it cheaply for me did you, that's why you're giving it to me" so this isn't going to do the job for me and it wasn't mentioned in original post. It said boxed, I think I'm ok to assume by that that it's the box that goes with the phone, not just the box??!

Again, I'm well aware that this is an honest, not even mistake, but miscommunication and I would like it amicable resolved.
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AV1985
localboy
Its a replacment from apple the imei wont be the same as the one on the box as its a replacment
Its perfectly fine.


So at least one of the fears (the not legit) one is gone. However, for the person I want to give it to, it won't be good enough as they are very picky (it's family, not a friend!) and will pick up immediately on the "oh so you got it cheaply for me did you, that's why you're giving it to me" so this isn't going to do the job for me and it wasn't mentioned in original post. It said boxed, I think I'm ok to assume by that that it's the box that goes with the phone, not just the box??!

Again, I'm well aware that this is an honest, not even mistake, but miscommunication and I would like it amicable resolved.



as i stated the iphone was REPLACED by apple and everyone on HUKD will back me up on this being the reason why the serial will not match the box's serial, i cant understand why they would say "oh so you got it cheaply for me did you, that's why you're giving it to me" when clearly it is not a brand new sealed item.

I can also send the apple receipt i got yesterday, which clearly shows the old iphones serial (same as the box) and also states the new ones aswel.
#22
also just to confirm i have only received half payment so far (£180)

EDIT: I also have the original tesco contract receipt with the original iphones serial number, so there is no chance of the iphone being stolen etc.

Edited By: massmail666 on Jun 22, 2011 18:20
#23
I can certainly confirm that I have so far only paid half (£180).

I believe you that the phone isn't stolen. However, in the original listing, the phone is listed as boxed. It does not say "in box but not original box" or anything to that effect. I'm not saying it was deliberate or supposed to be misleading, but it wasn't made clear and if I'd known this before buying, I wouldn't have bought it.

You've been very reasonable and honest about everything, I have no reason to doubt you. I hope you'd offer me the same courtesy. The person I am giving this phone to is pedantic about these sorts of things.

I am suggesting a quick resolution of a full refund of £187 and the phone will be back in the post to you tomorrow.

Thanks.
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AV1985
To confirm, I received this today but have PMed seller with a problem. This is that the IMEI and Serial on the box do not match the phone.

This was a gift from me to someone and this is quite a major problem for me as that person is quite picky and will now know that I've got it from somewhere not so legit. Plus, this raises the unfortunate question from me about this being legitimate, stolen, etc even though I'm not doubting the seller in this instance.

Maybe Apple replacements always come unboxed, I don't know.

Either way, since I have only paid half upfront (£180) I will be looking for a refund from seller of £187 to cover postage costs and I can post this item back to the seller tomorrow to be back to him by Friday.

I hope this can be resolved amicable and reasonably so neither party gets too worked up or stressed about it. We both have high feedback, neither is out to scam the other (I showed trust by paying some upfront, he also showed trust by sending before full payment) and I believe that this is an honest mistake, and that the seller either didn't know about this, or did but didn't realise how big an issue it would be.

Hope we can get this resolved but thought I should also explain in the thread.


Mate if you get a iPhone replaced they give you the phone only they dont give you the box, you should have known this, Massmail should have received a receipt from apple stating that a replacment was provided and it should show the IMEI numbers of both phones (I have replaced my phone many times and i got a few receipts from the genius guy at apple),

if Massmail can provide you with the receipt the iphone is then LEGIT and the transaction should countiue (the receipt looks genuine as it is dated 20/06/2011, but cant see IMEI number),

otherwise if he cant then you have the right to cancel and return the phone and get all your money back including all postage.

but cancelling the transaction becasue the iphone IMEI does not match the box is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard, looks like you are trying to back out or do a scam. If you dont want the phone then return it to Massmail and he can give you a refund (not including postage).

Hope this helps, Be Honest, Be Truthful, were all HUKDealers here... were like family :D
#25
I'm not sure how I'm coming across as a scammer here?

I fully believe Massmail in that the phone came without a box and thus, this is the box of his original phone. However, I can also, with hand on heart, say I was not to know this. As the listing said boxed, I assumed it was the original box.

The current situation is that I have the phone and I have only paid half of it. I am not satisfied with the phone as a crucial thing (crucial to me, maybe not to all buyers) was missing in the original listing.

I have no intention of scamming anybody. I would like to send the phone back, but I'm not willing to end up out of pocket for this.

The decision is Massmail's. As it stands, I'm the one with the phone and he's waiting for my money. I'm quite disturbed to see I'm the one who wants a quick and painless resolution when I'm the one in the driving seat!
1 Like #26
[email protected]_reaper, i have that receipt with both serials/IMEI etc I can post a copy on HUKD or to MOD's if needed.


everything is 100% legit. just seems to be like buyer is looking for a reason for a refund.
#27
@AV1985 are u looking for a discount or something? im willing to give one if it means no hassle/stress on my end.

what do you want to pay?

once again, i would just like to state the phone is 100% legit, and i understand your in the "driving seat" by having a iphone 4 and only paying £180 so far.
#28
If I was looking for a reason for a refund or a scam, surely I'd just take this phone for 180 and run? But I'm not!
#29
Bro, it's not about a discount, it's that this phone isn't suitable. Alternatively, if someone else wants this phone for the discount you've suggested, I'm happy for them to pay you, you refund me, and I send them the phone?

But no, I don't want to scam you, I'm wanting to give you your phone back!
1 Like #30
I would say that since Massmail paid for postage to AV1985.... so AV1985 should pay return postage that would mean both seller and buyer have paid for postage and the phone should be returned and money refunded, so both seller and buyer are out of pocket due to postage as you cannot place the blame on one single party.

this is due to the fact Massmail didnt write about the IMEI number being different to the one on the box (which is just common sense, but taking you word for it some people may not know if they dont have an iPhone).
Also AV1985 did not ask if the IMEI number was the same or not or did not any questions about it, which you should have if you knew the person you were giving it to was going to be picky.


Edited By: grim_reaper on Jun 22, 2011 18:58
4 Likes #31
i dont think you should expect the OP to have to fork out for postage for something that you should have realised when it comes to a 'replaced' apple phone. you made the mistake so you should take the hit really mate,and refund the £180 and send the iphone back. im sorry, but thats just the fairest thing to do imo........

in fact - just read what grim reaper said ^^^^^^^^^^^^ he/she sums it up perfectly


Edited By: francodevil on Jun 22, 2011 18:59
#32
AV1985
Bro, it's not about a discount, it's that this phone isn't suitable. Alternatively, if someone else wants this phone for the discount you've suggested, I'm happy for them to pay you, you refund me, and I send them the phone?

But no, I don't want to scam you, I'm wanting to give you your phone back!


no, dont want to complicate things with other people.

im willing to give a refund of £180 once the iphone is back with me, but as i paid the £7 delivery to send it to you. I feel you should pay the £7 to send it back to me. PLEASE ENSURE ITS RMSD.

I also hope the iphone is still in mint condition and not been mess around with.
#33
When I'm told it's boxed, it's common sense to assume it's the box for the phone, not some random box!

If I sold a phone boxed, but it was a random brown box, would that be cause for concern?

Grim, I'm not too concerned about what you think is fair.
#34
The phone has been turned on, gone into settings, checked serial and turned off.

I'll wait for a full refund plus postage then post back. I've been very nice and reasonable, I'll now play hardball. Let me know when you want to refund me
1 Like #35
AV1985
When I'm told it's boxed, it's common sense to assume it's the box for the phone, not some random box!

If I sold a phone boxed, but it was a random brown box, would that be cause for concern?

Grim, I'm not too concerned about what you think is fair.


well perhaps thats your main problem, that you dont care what other people think, which is why you really dont care one bit that the OP is gonna be out of pocket in this. what grim said about you are both in some ways to blame sums it up, you BOTH take the hit on postage and accept it as 'one of those days', but you were clearly in the right werent you?? No, you werent.
#36
AV1985
The phone has been turned on, gone into settings, checked serial and turned off.

I'll wait for a full refund plus postage then post back. I've been very nice and reasonable, I'll now play hardball. Let me know when you want to refund me


i dont think thats fair at all! you want me to loose £14 in postage and also want me to pay first even before i inspect the phone etc.

I have reported this thread and will do what ever the MOD's Say.
#37
AV1985
Seems like this baseband is a toughie to jailbreak and then unlock.

If you can find another SIM (just get a free Orange one from somewhere, cut it and try it! Or pop down to your local mobile phone shop and ask to borrow an Orange/T-Mob etc sim and try it) and if it's unlocked, I again will offer £350.

Otherwise, I too am out.



AV1985
When I'm told it's boxed, it's common sense to assume it's the box for the phone, not some random box!

If I sold a phone boxed, but it was a random brown box, would that be cause for concern?

Grim, I'm not too concerned about what you think is fair.


If you are a newbie to iPhones then you would have been given the benefit of doubt about the IMEI number ... but looks like you know your stuff about iPhones quoting your previous comment about basebands, unlocking and jailbreaking.

agree with francodevil . I am still sticking to my previous comment and think AV1985 should pay for return postage.
#38
My mistake is trusting the seller who said the phone was boxed. It wasn't in its original box but in a random box.

You guys getting on my case is ridiculous since right now, the seller has sent me a phone for 180. He's the one being out of pocket right now. I'm being generous in making sure he is only 7 quid out of pocket, not 180.

Seller, up to you. I'm not interested in hearing the other silly comments from people who don't matter.
2 Likes #39
AV1985
When I'm told it's boxed, it's common sense to assume it's the box for the phone, not some random box!

If I sold a phone boxed, but it was a random brown box, would that be cause for concern?

Grim, I'm not too concerned about what you think is fair.


I am reading this with interest....

AV1985 you have stated you want the original box and if being pushy, this is exactly what you received, the original box for the original iphone (no some random box as you've stated above)

The box you received isn't a random brown box, its an iphone 4 box.

I would find it hard to believe that a seller stating he's selling a replacement iphone would think about saying imei's don't match in the exact same way that the buyer wouldn't think to ask....
I dont' think anyone's at fault and my opinion would be that you both pay the rmsd once each to amicably reach a solution.....
#40
bikerjodie
AV1985
When I'm told it's boxed, it's common sense to assume it's the box for the phone, not some random box!

If I sold a phone boxed, but it was a random brown box, would that be cause for concern?

Grim, I'm not too concerned about what you think is fair.


I am reading this with interest....

AV1985 you have stated you want the original box and if being pushy, this is exactly what you received, the original box for the original iphone (no some random box as you've stated above)

The box you received isn't a random brown box, its an iphone 4 box.

I would find it hard to believe that a seller stating he's selling a replacement iphone would think about saying imei's don't match in the exact same way that the buyer wouldn't think to ask....
I dont' think anyone's at fault and my opinion would be that you both pay the rmsd once each to amicably reach a solution.....


cheers mate.

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