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**UPDATED** HotUKDeals - For Sale Forum Rules & Guidelines *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING *

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The HotUKDeals For Sale/Trade forum is an area where HUKD members can personally trade with other members. It is like the classifieds in your local paper or eBay, but entirely free and for member use only. HUKD does not make any guarantee as to the trustworthiness or condition of any trades on here and we do not validate the listings on here. So please trade cautiously, follow these rules closely and understand the risk factor involved in any personal trades.

Pay particular attention to the "Suggested Guidelines for Buyers" section below.

Rules can be found in Post #1

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    Admin
    Admin[admin]6 years, 10 months ago15 Likes #1Show comment toolsReply
    Playing it Safe
    The trading forums are only as safe as the community which takes care of it. It’s up to you to be careful when trading. If you see anything suspicious, please report the thread quickly with any details you may have.
    Use Paypal rather than bank transfers or other forms of money exchange. Additional protection may be offered but does not cover all scenarios nor does it guarantee a full refund. See the Buyer Protection Off Ebay for further info. Paypal gift, whilst convenient, offers no such protection.
    There is always a risk involved when purchasing sealed items. Please ensure you take all necessary precautions, request a photograph of the item seal and where possible, collect in person.

    Caveat Emptor.
    Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It’s in your best interest to check out these details yourself. The trading forums are the equivalent to a newspaper’s classified section, We cannot be held responsible nor can we vouch for any listings or sales/trades in this forum. Use your head, follow the guidelines, evaluate the risk and make your own decision.

    Always follow the Trading Advice in full for agreed trades and prior to payment.
    All buyers and sellers should satisfy themselves that either party is genuine by providing and verifying the following via PM to each other:
    * Landline telephone number – make a CALL to check out the area code and number are correct. Consider using the BT Directory or 192.com to verify.
    * Name and address including postcode. Consider verifying via 192.com
    * Valid e-mail address.
    * If you’re using PayPal, check to see if the seller has eBay feedback. You can also make a small payment to and from each other to validate the PayPal e-mail address
    * Only buy from Verified PayPal Members if possible
    Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct.
    It’s in your best interest to check out these details yourself.

    Trade Obligations
    All threads must include an asking price or valuation of the item if intending to trade only. All items must belong to you or your household and be in your possession. You cannot revalue your item upwards after an offer has been made. Whilst you are not obliged to sell at the listed price, you should ensure your thread is closed and 7 full days have elapsed from the date of the last post before relisting. Once an offer is made and accepted, it should be considered final. Accepting a higher bid beyond this point is not permitted, this is not an auction site. Failure by either party to complete an agreed trade may result in suspension from the site. Goods remain the sellers responsibility until buyer has confirmed receipt of the item.

    No Business/Trader like behaviour.
    Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.

    You cannot list items if you have a live listing for the same item or item type elsewhere.
    This includes ‘Wanted’ threads. This is aimed to ensure that all negotiations are contained within the thread and no reference/bargaining to offers made elsewhere. Members do not always have access to other forums and are unable to verify such statements

    Profiteering is not permitted
    You must not list items for higher than their RRP, nor can you trade items for a higher price you have paid for the same item elsewhere on the site.

    Sales negotiations must take part within the respective thread.
    Dealing by PM or email is not allowed. Personal details should not be added to any listings.

    A maximum of 3 bumps per thread.
    Do not bump your threads excessively. It’s not fair on other users. Three bumps per thread are allowed in order to promote your listing. For this reasons, no vague threads are permitted and the item offered/wanted must be specific. Any unnecessary comments or consecutive postings within your thread will be classed as a bump or thread spoil.

    Threads allow up to 5 photos per post, if you are listing several items in one thread, please reserve a post at time of the thread creation (by making a comment within your thread and later editing your pictures into that comment) otherwise subsequent photo/request for photos may be deemed as a bump.
    All photos must be of the actual item for sale (not a stock photo) and include a note containing your member name and dated alongside. It is your responsibility to take a picture of the item you’re selling before listing on Hotukdeals and to add them to your thread as soon as possible to avoid unnecessary bumps.

    Only one person per household can use the trading forums.
    If your partner or a family member wishes to access the remainder of the site then please use the contact form. Any multiple accounts posting within the trading forums will be suspended from the site.

    No Thread Spoiling.
    Do not comment within any trade thread unless you are actually interested in the item listed or you post a valid URL to the same item new and cheaper elsewhere. Links to auction / marketplace sites are not allowed. Lowball offers are classed as thread spoiling. If you are offering an item, regardless of whether in a “for sale” or “wanted” thread, you MUST state a valid asking price.

    No Thread Jacking.
    Taking over someone else’s thread and using it for your own means.

    Managing your threads.
    It is the responsibility of the member to ensure that they lock threads and ensure 7 full days have elapsed from the last post should they decide to relist. Threads can be self managed via HUKD’s dedicated trading site at fo.lk Members can log in using their current HUKD username and password. All posts are replicated between both sites. Any Item subject to a valuation request in Misc/Ask must be reported for closure and a full 7 days have elapsed from the date/time of the last post, prior to listing the same item in the trading forums.

    Clothing Sales.
    Clothing sales (including shoes) are restricted to a maximum of 3 live current listings at any one time. You may add as many items as you wish to a single thread, however it should be noted that you can only leave a maximum of 10 feedback ratings per thread. Effective for new listings created on or after 28 January 2011 12:00 pm. Shoe inclusion update August 11th 2011

    Prohibited Trades. The following items must not be listed.
    *Counterfeit items
    *Weapons
    *Medicines / Age Restricted Products
    *Copied Media
    *Console Cards / Pandora type batteries/PS3 Jailbreak Devices
    *Alcohol
    *Tobacco / accessories
    *Illegal Substances
    *Sexually Explicit Items
    *Non Transferable Items including Gaming/Adword Accounts
    *Items without an rrp, e.g. games marked as promo only or split bundles where no price comparison is valid.
    *Cable TV Boxes
    *Rail Tickets
    *Football Tickets
    *Vouchers with minimum spend, next to no resale value or available in electronic format only (for the avoidance of doubt, no e-codes will be accepted). All 1mth+ tangible Xbox live cards for example are permitted, ecodes only are not.
    *Currency / money exchange

    Trading Feedback.
    Please make sure you leave clear and honest trading feedback for any trade you have completed. This helps good traders build a healthy reputation and warns others about the bad ones.

    Feedback should only be left after a trade is completely entered into, such as items paid for, exchange of items commenced etc. Please do not use it as a retaliatory tool at any time for any site issue, as that will at least result in an infraction, suspension or your exclusion from trading altogether.

    Unresolved Trades
    Traders with unresolved trades may be suspended or banned from using the trading forums. Members should attempt to resolve any issues prior to notification to moderators. In the event a member fails to return to the forum, you are advised to continue dialogue via the verified contact details received earlier in the trade.

    Moderators Decisions.
    Requests made by moderators for further information must be adhered to. Failure to follow may result in account restrictions. In addition we reserve the right to close any thread that breaches the trading rules or we feel may be unsafe. Moderators decisions should be deemed as final, however there is a right of appeal should you disagree by using the Contact Us facility. Admin(s) will conduct an independent review.






    Edited By: magicjay1986 on May 17, 2013 10:33: Updated e-codes
    dinosteveus
    Thread 'crapping', What??? :confused:

    Come on guys sort yourselves out:-:roll:

    crapping was found in the [COLOR=#0000ff]Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary[/COLOR] at the entries listed below.
    [LIST]
    [*][COLOR=#0000ff]crap (EXCREMENT)[/COLOR]
    [*][COLOR=#0000ff]crap on[/COLOR][/LIST]crap (EXCREMENT) [COLOR=#0000ff]Show phonetics[/COLOR]
    noun [S or U] OFFENSIVE
    excrement, or when an animal or person produces excrement:
    I stepped in a pile of crap.
    That dog's just UK had/US taken a crap on my lawn.
    duckmagicuk2
    Hehe, I didn't write it. ;)
    rayman
    Think yourself lucky it's not the English equivalent lol Which for some reason sounds worse :?
    dinosteveus
    duckmagicuk2
    Hehe, I didn't write it. ;)


    I know, Paul used that same word a few days ago on another thread.
    I reported the post as a 'Bad post' :lol:
    Admin
    Admin[admin]6 years, 9 months ago2 Likes #6Show comment toolsReply
    I have changed it to spoiling. However, thread crapping is a common forum term and carries a lot of nuance with it that most people understand.
    dinosteveus
    Admin
    I have changed it to spoiling. However, thread crapping is a common forum term and carries a lot of nuance with it that most people understand.

    Thank you.
    I have NEVER seen that term used on any Forums I post on.
    So is 'crap' okay and if so that means the 'other' word for crap must also be allowed.
    magic-man
    I find the low price idea a bit odd considering this site is meant to be used to find deals?
    rayman
    To find deals at the lowest prices is odd? Or not allowing eBay sellers who might offer something at a lower price?
    magic-man
    O sorry, didnt make that clear, the ebay one i semi understand, but if someone is advetising on here for more expensive I don't see why users cannot give their opnion on the price as after all HUD is supposed to be where all the bargins are, and it is after all only in their opnion
    markwills
    magic-man
    O sorry, didnt make that clear, the ebay one i semi understand, but if someone is advetising on here for more expensive I don't see why users cannot give their opnion on the price as after all HUD is supposed to be where all the bargins are, and it is after all only in their opnion


    I agree. The whole point of this website is to share knowledge of the cheapest place to buy items. Surely users should be able to inform others if there is a cheaper place to buy the item than from this seller. This will also encourage the seller to reduce the item to a more reasonable price. This would be especially useful to new users of the site who haven't found their feet yet, and prevent them from being "ripped off".

    However I do agree that hurling abuse at the seller is unacceptable. Even if you think their price is too high, there are pleasant ways of saying it! And even if they are trying to sell us stuff that can be obtained for free elsewhere on the site (such as SIM cards!!!).
    f1d
    I think it is good that "thread crapping" is not allowed... but however I do feel that if an item is new for a cheaper price elsewhere... the poster SHOULD be allowed to post the price WITH proof of this lower price so the poster can re consider. (I've used a forum like this and this rule has worked well).

    So if someone is selling a DVD for £3.99... but play.com have it for £2.99... someone could say, "I'll offer this because its lower on play.com" and provide a link.

    I also think making a small payment to and from each other is a bit silly... as is providing a telephone and address TO THE MODERATOR because surely it is ultimately down to the buyer etc to make sure the person is real... the mod/admin can't fight on behalf of this buyer just because they know their details (if you know what I mean ;)).

    Valid email address I also think is a good idea... as is using paypal.

    I'm thinking this forum will be good!

    P.S. Long time lurker on hukd ;)
    rayman
    Welcome to HotUKDeals posting f1d and Thanks for the post :)

    The reason for sending details to a moderator, is so the two involved in a sale, can have their details sent on to each other in the same message. At least that way they know they've been PM'd the exact same details.

    I think that's fair enough, to mention the lower price and show the link to it. As long as it's posted in the correct way, politely and respectfully without any berating.
    rayman
    Also if you make a small payment to each other and check out whether eBay/PayPal e-mail addresses match, that should lessen any concerns you have about either person's ID?
    tomtomek
    My advert has been deleted!!!
    Why?
    because I have stated that it is adverised elswhere.... but rules say:

    (1) No eBay or external links to an item listed elsewhere. People will find your item on eBay if they're looking, that's how eBay works...honestly.

    (2) No businesses or bulk sales. This is for personal trading/selling only. No linking to an external business/eBay store/Amazon store. This applies to other forums too, items are not to be advertised elsewhere.

    ad1. There was no external link! Yes I agree - someone will find it on ebay if want to!
    ad2. It is not a business or bulk sale!
    There was no link at all!

    If I place advert for example on gumtree does this prevent me from posting here?
    SILLY!
    I have never posted any links...
    could someone please explain to me this situation???
    Admin
    Admin[admin]6 years, 4 months ago #16Show comment toolsReply
    Yes. If you post a deal on HUKD it must be posted here to be completed here. I don't want to see any excuses of I have interest from site x, I'm waiting for auction to close at site y, and so forth. If it's listed here it's got to be for sale here.

    It's not a complex rule.
    tomtomek
    Look - I have an auction with reserve price on ebay. If someone from here will be willing to pay the amount i ask fro I will sel it. On ebay it is locked with reserve price so if noone reaches it no one will get it.
    If someone will be able to pay the amount I wont I will close auction on ebay - I wont be saying that I am waitin till auction finish. Only thing I want is to sell item.
    If u place an advert in newspaper does it mean that u cannot place it in the other one?
    I dont understand wen u are saying - if it is listed hee it has to be for sale in here - IT IS FOR SALE - and if someone offers me the money I want it is his! Thats the way of trading!
    rayman
    Surely this in bold is clear enough?

    Admin
    (1) No eBay or external links to an item listed elsewhere. People will find your item on eBay if they're looking, that's how eBay works...honestly.

    (2) No businesses or bulk sales. This is for personal trading/selling only. No linking to an external business/eBay store/Amazon store. This applies to other forums too, items are not to be advertised elsewhere.
    tomtomek
    Well so point one and two should be binded together - because first one just states about extenal links - doesnt tell that the items cannot be listed elswhere.
    Anyway in my opinion it is quite silly because why should i offer it only to people that check hukd forum?
    It looks that if i tell one friend that I have a laptop for sale i am forbidden to tell the other one....
    silly rule
    tomtomek
    for example this post should be deleted aswell
    http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43003
    no offence!

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