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**UPDATED** HotUKDeals - For Sale Forum Rules & Guidelines *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING *

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The HotUKDeals For Sale/Trade forum is an area where HUKD members can personally trade with other members. It is like the classifieds in your local paper or eBay, but entirely free and for member use only. HUKD does not make any guarantee as to the trustworthiness or condition of any trades on here and we do not validate the listings on here. So please trade cautiously, follow these rules closely and understand the risk factor involved in any personal trades.

Pay particular attention to the "Suggested Guidelines for Buyers" section below.

Rules can be found in Post #1
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Playing it Safe
The trading forums are only as safe as the community which takes care of it. It’s up to you to be careful when trading. If you see anything suspicious, please report the thread quickly with any details you may have.
Use Paypal rather than bank transfers or other forms of money exchange. Additional protection may be offered but does not cover all scenarios nor does it guarantee a full refund. See the Buyer Protection Off Ebay for further info. Paypal gift, whilst convenient, offers no such protection.
There is always a risk involved when purchasing sealed items. Please ensure you take all necessary precautions, request a photograph of the item seal and where possible, collect in person.

Caveat Emptor.
Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It’s in your best interest to check out these details yourself. The trading forums are the equivalent to a newspaper’s classified section, We cannot be held responsible nor can we vouch for any listings or sales/trades in this forum. Use your head, follow the guidelines, evaluate the risk and make your own decision.

Always follow the Trading Advice in full for agreed trades and prior to payment.
All buyers and sellers should satisfy themselves that either party is genuine by providing and verifying the following via PM to each other:
* Landline telephone number – make a CALL to check out the area code and number are correct. Consider using the BT Directory or 192.com to verify.
* Name and address including postcode. Consider verifying via 192.com
* Valid e-mail address.
* If you’re using PayPal, check to see if the seller has eBay feedback. You can also make a small payment to and from each other to validate the PayPal e-mail address
* Only buy from Verified PayPal Members if possible
Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct.
It’s in your best interest to check out these details yourself.

Trade Obligations
All threads must include an asking price or valuation of the item if intending to trade only. All items must belong to you or your household and be in your possession. You cannot revalue your item upwards after an offer has been made. Whilst you are not obliged to sell at the listed price, you should ensure your thread is closed and 7 full days have elapsed from the date of the last post before relisting. Once an offer is made and accepted, it should be considered final. Accepting a higher bid beyond this point is not permitted, this is not an auction site. Failure by either party to complete an agreed trade may result in suspension from the site. Goods remain the sellers responsibility until buyer has confirmed receipt of the item.

No Business/Trader like behaviour.
Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.

UPDATE 14/04/15 - You can now list your item on HUKD if it is for sale elsewhere
This includes ‘Wanted’ threads. The onus is on you, however, to ensure all threads listed here and elsewhere are managed efficiently, and any potential buyers are kept notified of progress. You must clearly state within your thread description that your item is listed elsewhere, if you do not disclose this information initially, your thread will be locked and you will need to wait 7 days to relist. If you decide to list elsewhere and your HUKD thread is still active, you must add this to your description as a dated edit before you submit your listing elsewhere. This rule does not allow you to list multiple threads for the same item on HUKD (see rules on Managing your threads.) Your thread may be locked whilst moderators speak to you about your other active listings at any time.

Profiteering is not permitted
You must not list items for higher than their RRP, nor can you trade items for a higher price you have paid for the same item elsewhere on the site. Members should not make offers higher than the valuation given by the seller (save for reasonable delivery charges).

Sales negotiations must take part within the respective thread.
Dealing by PM or email is not allowed. Personal details should not be added to any listings.

A maximum of 3 bumps per thread.
Do not bump your threads excessively. It’s not fair on other users. Three bumps per thread are allowed in order to promote your listing. For this reasons, no vague threads are permitted and the item offered/wanted must be specific. Any unnecessary comments or consecutive postings within your thread will be classed as a bump or thread spoil.

Threads allow up to 5 photos per post, if you are listing several items in one thread, please reserve a post at time of the thread creation (by making a comment within your thread and later editing your pictures into that comment) otherwise subsequent photo/request for photos may be deemed as a bump.
All photos must be of the actual item for sale (not a stock photo) and include a note containing your member name and dated alongside. It is your responsibility to take a picture of the item you’re selling before listing on Hotukdeals and to add them to your thread as soon as possible to avoid unnecessary bumps.

Only one person per household can use the trading forums.
In most cases, only one person per household can use the trading forums.
This is to help prevent unscrupulous traders causing issues for potential buyers and sellers. Anyone breaching this rule will be contacted by the FS team and may be suspended.

If you have 50+ HUKD trading feedback, you can appeal via the contact form and ask for an additional household member to be permitted to use the FS Forum.
Your trade history, time on site and behaviour within the community will be taken into consideration.

No Thread Spoiling.
Do not comment within any trade thread unless you are actually interested in the item listed or you post a valid URL to the same item new and cheaper elsewhere. Links to auction / marketplace sites are not allowed. Lowball offers are classed as thread spoiling. If you are offering an item, regardless of whether in a “for sale” or “wanted” thread, you MUST state a valid asking price.

No Thread Jacking.
Taking over someone else’s thread and using it for your own means.

Managing your threads.
It is the responsibility of the member to ensure that they lock threads and ensure 7 full days have elapsed from the last post should they decide to relist. You must use the report function to request thread closure. Any Item subject to a valuation request in Misc/Ask must be reported for closure and a full 7 days have elapsed from the date/time of the last post, prior to listing the same item in the trading forums. (EDIT 01/06/15 - Folk synchronisation paused while site is updated)

Clothing Sales.
Clothing sales (including shoes) are restricted to a maximum of 3 live current listings at any one time. You may add as many items as you wish to a single thread, however it should be noted that you can only leave a maximum of 10 feedback ratings per thread. Effective for new listings created on or after 28 January 2011 12:00 pm. Shoe inclusion update August 11th 2011

Prohibited Trades. The following items must not be listed.
*Counterfeit items
*Weapons
*Medicines / Age Restricted Products
*Copied Media
*Console Cards / Pandora type batteries/PS3 Jailbreak Devices
*Alcohol
*Tobacco / accessories
*Illegal Substances
*Sexually Explicit Items
*Non Transferable Items including Gaming/Adword Accounts
*Items without an rrp, e.g. games marked "promo only" or "not for resale". We will allow "not to be sold separately" bundled games.
*Cable TV Boxes
*Rail Tickets
*Football Tickets
*Vouchers with minimum spend, next to no resale value or available in electronic format only (for the avoidance of doubt, no e-codes will be accepted). All 1mth+ tangible Xbox live cards for example are permitted, ecodes only are not.
*Currency / money exchange

Trading Feedback.
Please make sure you leave clear and honest trading feedback for any trade you have completed. This helps good traders build a healthy reputation and warns others about the bad ones.

Feedback should only be left after a trade is completely entered into, such as items paid for, exchange of items commenced etc. Please do not use it as a retaliatory tool at any time for any site issue, as that will at least result in an infraction, suspension or your exclusion from trading altogether.

Unresolved Trades
Traders with unresolved trades may be suspended or banned from using the trading forums. Members should attempt to resolve any issues prior to notification to moderators. In the event a member fails to return to the forum, you are advised to continue dialogue via the verified contact details received earlier in the trade.

Moderators Decisions.
Requests made by moderators for further information must be adhered to. Failure to follow may result in account restrictions. In addition we reserve the right to close any thread that breaches the trading rules or we feel may be unsafe. Moderators decisions should be deemed as final, however there is a right of appeal should you disagree by using the Contact Us facility. Admin(s) will conduct an independent review.


















Edited By: magicjay1986 on Aug 17, 2016 12:34: Updated.
1 Like #2
Thread 'crapping', What??? :confused:

Come on guys sort yourselves out:-:roll:

crapping was found in the [COLOR=#0000ff]Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary[/COLOR] at the entries listed below.
[LIST]
[*][COLOR=#0000ff]crap (EXCREMENT)[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#0000ff]crap on[/COLOR][/LIST]crap (EXCREMENT) [COLOR=#0000ff]Show phonetics[/COLOR]
noun [S or U] OFFENSIVE
excrement, or when an animal or person produces excrement:
I stepped in a pile of crap.
That dog's just UK had/US taken a crap on my lawn.
#3
Hehe, I didn't write it. ;)
#4
Think yourself lucky it's not the English equivalent lol Which for some reason sounds worse :?
1 Like #5
duckmagicuk2
Hehe, I didn't write it. ;)


I know, Paul used that same word a few days ago on another thread.
I reported the post as a 'Bad post' :lol:
[admin] 3 Likes #6
I have changed it to spoiling. However, thread crapping is a common forum term and carries a lot of nuance with it that most people understand.
2 Likes #7
Admin
I have changed it to spoiling. However, thread crapping is a common forum term and carries a lot of nuance with it that most people understand.

Thank you.
I have NEVER seen that term used on any Forums I post on.
So is 'crap' okay and if so that means the 'other' word for crap must also be allowed.
#8
I find the low price idea a bit odd considering this site is meant to be used to find deals?
#9
To find deals at the lowest prices is odd? Or not allowing eBay sellers who might offer something at a lower price?
1 Like #10
O sorry, didnt make that clear, the ebay one i semi understand, but if someone is advetising on here for more expensive I don't see why users cannot give their opnion on the price as after all HUD is supposed to be where all the bargins are, and it is after all only in their opnion
#11
magic-man
O sorry, didnt make that clear, the ebay one i semi understand, but if someone is advetising on here for more expensive I don't see why users cannot give their opnion on the price as after all HUD is supposed to be where all the bargins are, and it is after all only in their opnion


I agree. The whole point of this website is to share knowledge of the cheapest place to buy items. Surely users should be able to inform others if there is a cheaper place to buy the item than from this seller. This will also encourage the seller to reduce the item to a more reasonable price. This would be especially useful to new users of the site who haven't found their feet yet, and prevent them from being "ripped off".

However I do agree that hurling abuse at the seller is unacceptable. Even if you think their price is too high, there are pleasant ways of saying it! And even if they are trying to sell us stuff that can be obtained for free elsewhere on the site (such as SIM cards!!!).
2 Likes #12
I think it is good that "thread crapping" is not allowed... but however I do feel that if an item is new for a cheaper price elsewhere... the poster SHOULD be allowed to post the price WITH proof of this lower price so the poster can re consider. (I've used a forum like this and this rule has worked well).

So if someone is selling a DVD for £3.99... but play.com have it for £2.99... someone could say, "I'll offer this because its lower on play.com" and provide a link.

I also think making a small payment to and from each other is a bit silly... as is providing a telephone and address TO THE MODERATOR because surely it is ultimately down to the buyer etc to make sure the person is real... the mod/admin can't fight on behalf of this buyer just because they know their details (if you know what I mean ;)).

Valid email address I also think is a good idea... as is using paypal.

I'm thinking this forum will be good!

P.S. Long time lurker on hukd ;)
#13
Welcome to HotUKDeals posting f1d and Thanks for the post :)

The reason for sending details to a moderator, is so the two involved in a sale, can have their details sent on to each other in the same message. At least that way they know they've been PM'd the exact same details.

I think that's fair enough, to mention the lower price and show the link to it. As long as it's posted in the correct way, politely and respectfully without any berating.
#14
Also if you make a small payment to each other and check out whether eBay/PayPal e-mail addresses match, that should lessen any concerns you have about either person's ID?
#15
My advert has been deleted!!!
Why?
because I have stated that it is adverised elswhere.... but rules say:

(1) No eBay or external links to an item listed elsewhere. People will find your item on eBay if they're looking, that's how eBay works...honestly.

(2) No businesses or bulk sales. This is for personal trading/selling only. No linking to an external business/eBay store/Amazon store. This applies to other forums too, items are not to be advertised elsewhere.

ad1. There was no external link! Yes I agree - someone will find it on ebay if want to!
ad2. It is not a business or bulk sale!
There was no link at all!

If I place advert for example on gumtree does this prevent me from posting here?
SILLY!
I have never posted any links...
could someone please explain to me this situation???
[admin]#16
Yes. If you post a deal on HUKD it must be posted here to be completed here. I don't want to see any excuses of I have interest from site x, I'm waiting for auction to close at site y, and so forth. If it's listed here it's got to be for sale here.

It's not a complex rule.
3 Likes #17
Look - I have an auction with reserve price on ebay. If someone from here will be willing to pay the amount i ask fro I will sel it. On ebay it is locked with reserve price so if noone reaches it no one will get it.
If someone will be able to pay the amount I wont I will close auction on ebay - I wont be saying that I am waitin till auction finish. Only thing I want is to sell item.
If u place an advert in newspaper does it mean that u cannot place it in the other one?
I dont understand wen u are saying - if it is listed hee it has to be for sale in here - IT IS FOR SALE - and if someone offers me the money I want it is his! Thats the way of trading!
#18
Surely this in bold is clear enough?

Admin
(1)No eBay or external links to an item listed elsewhere. People will find your item on eBay if they're looking, that's how eBay works...honestly.

(2) No businesses or bulk sales. This is for personal trading/selling only. No linking to an external business/eBay store/Amazon store. This applies to other forums too, items are not to be advertised elsewhere.
2 Likes #19
Well so point one and two should be binded together - because first one just states about extenal links - doesnt tell that the items cannot be listed elswhere.
Anyway in my opinion it is quite silly because why should i offer it only to people that check hukd forum?
It looks that if i tell one friend that I have a laptop for sale i am forbidden to tell the other one....
silly rule
#20
for example this post should be deleted aswell
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43003
no offence!
#21
This point being dealt with. Thanks for pointing it out.
tomtomek
for example this post should be deleted aswell
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43003
no offence!
#22
You're not obliged to sell it here, the guidelines and general rules are there to read. If you accept them, then fine, if you don't then why post?

As for points 1 and 2 being bound together: We'll make it bold for those two statements instead, as the first is actually only about eBay as a whole.

tomtomek
Well so point one and two should be binded together - because first one just states about extenal links - doesnt tell that the items cannot be listed elswhere.
Anyway in my opinion it is quite silly because why should i offer it only to people that check hukd forum?
It looks that if i tell one friend that I have a laptop for sale i am forbidden to tell the other one....
silly rule
[admin]#23
Well so point one and two should be binded together - because first one just states about extenal links - doesnt tell that the items cannot be listed elswhere.
Anyway in my opinion it is quite silly because why should i offer it only to people that check hukd forum?
It looks that if i tell one friend that I have a laptop for sale i am forbidden to tell the other one....
silly rule


I'm not a lawyer. These are guidelines for the forum so that you know what to do when you post. If we don't like your post it's gone, that's the way it works. If you think the rules are silly go elsewhere.

Sorry to get wound up but I'm getting a little tired with users who are wasting large amounts of mod time on silly issues. This forum is for HUKD members to personally trade amongst themselves. It's not for bulk sellers or opportunists or people trying to find away around the rules. If you think eBay is better than please for goodness sakes go to eBay.
#24
Sorry i removed that bit. and the items id advertised elsewhere. i did know this rule but i must have had a brain fart i do apologise.

Rules are rules...full stop
#25
OH GOD!
I am not saying ebay is better and I am not a bulk seller JESUS!
I just wanted to sell my laptop so thought good thing would be advertising this here. If you think my posts are wasting your time just do not reply to them!
I am just suggesting that
a) rules should be changed - coz advertising elswhere does not do any harm!
b) if you do not want to change them - change the way they are written - coz first point just tells you that you cannot post links to ebay auctions!

soryy for wasting your time
lol

(nice said - if we dont like your post - it is not here anymore.... it feels like the forum controled by dictatorship...) anyway - I had a quite good deal - wanted to sell my good laptop... but...
#26
We reply to your posts because we want too.

We want you to sell your laptop here, but you're not allowed to do that if it's advertised elsewhere, so that's up to you if you don't agree with that point.

The forum is moderated well, not necessarily by me, but all moderators. That's why there's a very good record of very little spam and scam. Dictatorship is a bit far fetched I think...

This is one of the few forums that are very relaxed in giving its members a platform to air their views without opinion censorship, provided that it's polite, respectful and inoffensive.

If you want further discussion on this, please start a thread in the Miscellaneous forum, as all points raised have been dealt with here :) Thanks.
#27
Thanks for nice and polite reply.
Cheers ;)
Tom
#28
why's my coat ad just been removed? :-S
#29
Please check you PM's [private messages].
[admin]#30
The rules have just been expanded and updated. Please read through to familiarise yourself with them.
#31
Admin
WHAT IS THE HUKD FOR SALE/TRADE FORUM

The HotUKDeals For Sale/Trade forum is an area where HUKD members can personally trade with other members. It is like the classifieds in your local paper or eBay but entirely free and for member use only. HUKD does not make any guarantee as to the trustworthiness or condition of any trades on here and we do not validate the listings on here. So please trade cautiously, follow these rules closely and understand the risk factor involved in any personal trades. Pay particular attention to the "Suggested Guidelines for Buyers" section below.

SECTION I: WHO CAN SELL, BUY AND TRADE

(1) This is for personal trading/selling only. NO businesses or bulk sales. No linking to an external business/eBay store/Amazon store.

(2) NB: This forums definition of TRADE is: an exchange of items between members, usually without payment of money.

SECTION II: LISTING A TRADE, SALE OR REQUEST

[COLOR=blue](1) All sales must be listed and completed fully on the HUKD FS/FT forum.[/COLOR] NO eBay, auction, classified or external links to an item listed elsewhere.

(2) It should go without saying but no prohibited, classified or otherwise illegal items.

(3) Please post images of the actual items for sale. This helps your sale or trade by showing the condition and also that you have the product in your possession. This is not a necessity but will go a long way to helping your sale and establishing validity.

(4) List an asking price in your listing. Every item you list should have a legitimate asking price. Obviously you can still haggle over this.

(5) If advertising a ticket sale it should be at cost price and not an inflated price.

(6) Please update your thread once the item has been sold, trade completed or request fulfilled.

SECTION III: FULFILLING YOUR TRADE OBLIGATIONS

(1) Once an offer has been made an accepted the trade should be considered final. Sellers who accept an offer and subsequently accept a higher offer from another member will be banned from trading. On the flip side members who submit an offer and subsequently cannot fulfill it due to lack of funds will be banned from trading.

(2) Goods remain the responsibility of the seller until the buyer takes possession and affirms they are okay. For this reason be honest in your descriptions and include original photos so the buyer knows what they are getting! Also, use a form of insured and signed for delivery to ensure any shipping/delivery mishaps will be covered.

SECTION IV: THREAD COMMENTS, SPOILING AND PRICE COMPARISON

(1) Please only post in a thread if you are interested in engaging in the sale/trade listed. Anything else will be considered thread spoiling and will be deleted. Thread spoilers face a ban from the FS/FT forum. If a member continually posts questions in multiple threads and then withdraws from the sale this will be considered thread spoiling. Low ball offers will also be considered thread spoiling - keep them to pm's.

(2) The only exception to this is if you see the EXACT item priced higher than available new elsewhere. In this case a third-party can make a post but ONLY in the following format: LINK TO MERCHANT - PRICE. No comments, just the facts. This must be the final price (after VAT/shipping) for a new product and from a reputable merchant. Price comparison to auction sites, classifieds or other personal sales are not allowed. Members who do not follow these posting rules face a ban from the FS/FT forum.

(3) If you believe a poster is dodgy please pm a moderator with your evidence. ONLY post suspicions in the thread if you are 100% positive the poster is a troll.


SECTION V: SUGGESTED GUIDELINES FOR BUYERS

(1) Check the traders HUKD trading feedback. Please read details posted here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=276068

(2) Outside of this you can use the poster's eBay feedback to establish some kind of trust level. If you do so make sure you contact the user through eBay to make sure the account they state as theirs is indeed theirs.

(3) Use PayPal. We would recommend only buying from Verified PayPal Members. You can see this status on the second PayPal screen when you go to make a payment, you do not have to complete the payment to view this. PayPal is far from perfect but at least it gives you the chance of recourse if things go pear shaped.

(4) Receive and validate the following information:
1]Landline telephone number Make a CALL to check out the area code and number are correct too!
2]Name and address including postcode
3]Valid e-mail address [no disposable addresses such as @gmail or @yahoo for example].
4]Make a small payment to and from each other to validate the PayPal e-mail address.

(5) If possible, collect and pay for items in person.

Caveat Emptor. Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It's in your best interest to check out these details yourself. This forum is equivalent to a newspaper's classified section, HotUKDeals is not responsible for and does not vouch for any listings or sales/trades in this forum! Use your head, follow the guidelines, evaluate the risk and make your own decision.

SECTION VI: HUKD TRADING FEEDBACK

Please make sure you leave trading feedback for any trade you are involved in. This helps good traders build a reputation and warn others about bad ones. Please read details posted here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=276068


Can I ask about this please:-
[COLOR=#0000ff](1) All sales must be listed and completed fully on the HUKD FS/FT forum[/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]If the seller has an ebay account and a sale has been agreed, can it be put on ebay on a BIN, if collection is not an option?[/COLOR]
This would offer more protection than Paypal alone.
[admin]#32
I guess that would be up to the buyer to request as part of the fulfillment arrangement. If a seller did that then I think it becomes a little more suspect...

One of the main purposes of the rule is to prevent someone listing, another member saying I'll take it and then the seller putting things off until the eBay auction is over or a situation where the trade being listed elsewhere gets in the way of the deal being made here.

Edit: Thinking about it some more, I think it hinges on whether listing is part of the fulfillment process to the deal made on here, because in that case it's not really different than using PayPal or whatever (obviously that part of the deal can't be done through HUKD). If a seller was listing BIN's on here, or listing sales that were currently listed on eBay though that would be taken off.
#33
Thanks for the reply Paul.
#34
Just made my first post and had it removed - oops!

Wish I'd read the full terms first, a wise idea for any new posters!

Sorry! I feel a little silly right now!

Hope my new post complies.

P.s site is great! A friend recommended it and I must say I will be doing the same!
#35
May I ask a silly question?

Can I post a couple of threads with different items for sale?

Forgive me if its in the terms and I'm just being blind!

Thank you!
#36
Welcome to HotUKDeals angelkelly and Thanks for the posts :)

If you're selling off stock of the same items, then that wouldn't be allowed in For Sale or Trade.

The forum is for "clearing out your attic" type of sales and not for "bought from warehouse, selling on" sort of thing.

Hope that helps.
#37
Hi Rayman,
thanks for replying!

The item I wanted to put on a new thread was different but they were bought via an auction site and I'm selling them on. Although I'm selling them on much cheaper than you can get them on certain well known auction sites and from the base shops of my products. Does that mean I cant post?

I just wanted to put up 2 threads in total (including the one thats already up).

They arent advertised anywhere else and I'm only listing them here as they are perfect for valentines and in my opinion a hotukdeal.

Would this be OK? Thanks again!
#38
You're welcome, but if you're selling more than just those four in total, it would be classed as a bulk sale and not allowed in the forum. Sorry about that.
#39
No problem!
Thanks for replying!

And for the good advice posted about making sure someones a genuine seller!
#40
Hi

I have a couple of items I would like to offer for sale here, but how do you post with an image. I know how to post with an image link to an URL, but I can't see how to post with a photo stored on my PC.

Anyone help please

thanks

EliTom

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