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if you are owner of an electric car, you can charge it for free at meadowhall shopping centre.
there are 10 electric charging points, where owners of electric vehicles can charge them up for free.
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#1
Seems like a good deal both ways (they get custom, you get a free charge).
#2
This isn't a deal.

More to the point, it's not even a good free offer. The electricity dispensed will most likely come from CO2 belching coal, gas and oil fired power stations! Not so green after all, unless of course we do the sensible thing and use CO2 free nuclear power to generate electricity (like 80% of French electricity).

The real future for car fuel is hydrogen power cells - not mickey-mouse toy cars with heavy toxic batteries powered by fossil-fuel generated electricity.
#3
Also how long have you gotta walk round meadow hall for ?
A 12 hour charge

lol
#4
jnm21
(they get custom, you get a free charge).


free charge, slight contradiction with your use of a homograph..............yeah i'm bored
#5
I wonder what year it will be before all charging points are used at once?
#6
Ajibee
This isn't a deal.

More to the point, it's not even a good free offer. The electricity dispensed will most likely come from CO2 belching coal, gas and oil fired power stations! Not so green after all, unless of course we do the sensible thing and use CO2 free nuclear power to generate electricity (like 80% of French electricity).

The real future for car fuel is hydrogen power cells - not mickey-mouse toy cars with heavy toxic batteries powered by fossil-fuel generated electricity.


Ah yes, lovely Nuclear Power. The answer to all our prayers. Electricity too cheap to meter. Well, that's what they thought in the 1950's.

Here are the reasons off the top of my head against it

- It's very expensive.

- Nuclear plants take a long time to build (10-15 yrs) and that combined with the fact we would need dozens of them means we can't possible build enough in time to prevent runaway climate change.

- They are not 100% GHG free. There is a lot of energy expended and GHG emissions associated with construction of plants, mining of materials and transportation.

- Uranium mining is a highly toxic process

- Nuclear fuels are NOT limitless as some people seem to believe and in fact some of the basic fuels such as uranium are steadily dwindling due to on-going long term demand from UK, France, Japan, Russia and the US.

- We still have not solved the problem of disposing of radioactive spent fuel. It's long term, it's a dangerous target and there's a heck of a lot more of it than you'd think. When a new nuclear disposal mine was created in Scandanavia recently numerous nuclear countries practically begged to have their wastes put into it but to no avail.

- Transporting radioactive materials is a highly risky business. Do we really want to have produce a waste that requires THIRTY EIGHT expensive escort vessels!??

- It is often claimed nuclear is a "bridge" to a cleaner, greener energy mix (conveniently forgetting the impossibility of building enough plants in time anyway remember) yet every penny spent on nuclear (and that's a lot of pennies per plant) is a penny taken away from much greener technology research and production.

- Nuclear power also encourages continued centralisation of power supplies which worked when we had massive quantities of cheap energy from fossil fuels but probably now needs to be radically changed to localised power creation and disturibution along with much less waste of energy in terms of how much we actually use per person. We need to be more efficient because we may have to face up to there simply being a bit less energy!

- And finally, the elephant in the room that's been quite conspicuous by it's absence from debates in recent years - nuclear power plants are inherently dangerous! Have we really forgotten Chernobyl already??? (And it's a myth that "oh the Japanese have wonderfully 100% safe nuclear power plants" too) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6903146.stm
#7
Ajibee
This isn't a deal.

More to the point, it's not even a good free offer. The electricity dispensed will most likely come from CO2 belching coal, gas and oil fired power stations! Not so green after all, unless of course we do the sensible thing and use CO2 free nuclear power to generate electricity (like 80% of French electricity).

The real future for car fuel is hydrogen power cells - not mickey-mouse toy cars with heavy toxic batteries powered by fossil-fuel generated electricity.


It's still free power regardless of the environmental effects.
#8
It just hacks me off the way supermarkets have increased the price of vegetable oil - when you could go out in the past and use 24 hour supermarkets as fuel suppliers, Tesco Asda and Sainsburys.

However despite vegetable oil prices falling heavily - they are still charging more than diesel.

If I buy rapeseed oil - its more than likely its come from a field in this country yet electric is seen as greener when it could be powered by fossil fuels imported into the country.
#9
ibiza
It just hacks me off the way supermarkets have increased the price of vegetable oil - when you could go out in the past and use 24 hour supermarkets as fuel suppliers, Tesco Asda and Sainsburys.

However despite vegetable oil prices falling heavily - they are still charging more than diesel.

If I buy rapeseed oil - its more than likely its come from a field in this country yet electric is seen as greener when it could be powered by fossil fuels imported into the country.


Exactly. The government don't really care about the environment. They just pretend. People need to understand that all efforts are futile. We're all doomed and there's nothing we can do about it. So just accept things the way they are and try to have a good time. Anyone who thinks they can make a difference now is deluded.
#10
olliehayman
Exactly. The government don't really care about the environment. They just pretend. People need to understand that all efforts are futile. We're all doomed and there's nothing we can do about it. So just accept things the way they are and try to have a good time. Anyone who thinks they can make a difference now is deluded.


What qualifies you to make such a statement?
#11
I have a brain and my eyes work.
#12
olliehayman
I have a brain and my eyes work.


Good argument, well made.
#13
good if you have one of these cars but how long does it take to charge??
#14
olliehayman
I have a brain and my eyes work.


Nevermind then.
#15
I think people posting on this thread have missed the point.
#16
olliehayman
I have a brain and my eyes work.


Well said
#17
just kill all cows, or stick a cork up there back side, environment saved, problem solved!
#18
Ajibee
The electricity dispensed will most likely come from CO2 belching coal, gas and oil fired power stations! Not so green after all, unless of course we do the sensible thing and use CO2 free nuclear power to generate electricity (like 80% of French electricity).


The main product (99.27%) of nuclear waste is uranium-238. The half-life of uranium-238 is about 4.47 billion years. That's planning for the future :roll:
#19
mornin all
ah global warming,the biggest scam of all time,anyone with half a brain cell knows its not man made,yeah sure we contribute 2% of all c02 but even if mankind stopped producing c02 starting today its still gonna get hoter people,global warming is a cycle,its happened before and its happening again.If it wasnt for global warming we would all be still living in the ice age.Also if you do your home work youll realise were not the only planet getting warmer.The other four planets nearest the sun are all getting warmer because the suns getting warmer-thats offical its from nasa,also sea levels here on earth are at the same level as they wre in 1979 when they were first stared to be recorded.Sure try to be greener,make less rubbish cos we are running out of space and seek alternative fool,but to blame global warming on mankind is the biggest lie of all time-soz but it really gets me angry,
#20
Wicked Lester
Ah yes, lovely Nuclear Power. The answer to all our prayers. Electricity too cheap to meter. Well, that's what they thought in the 1950's.

Well the way you talk I thought you were living in the 1950's

In 2001 a study (Paul Scherrer Institute in Switzerland ) showed that Nucleur power had the best safety record.
Here is the list:

coal: 6,400 total deaths, 342 deaths per terawatt per year;
hydro power: 4,000 total deaths, 884 deaths per terawatt per year;
natural gas: 1,200 total deaths, 85 deaths per terawatt per year;
nuclear power: 31 total deaths, 8 deaths per terawatt per year.

- Nuclear plants take a long time to build (10-15 yrs) and that combined with the fact we would need dozens of them means we can't possible build enough in time to prevent runaway climate change.


"According to the Keystone Center’s “Nuclear Power Joint Fact Finding” released last year, failing to replace existing nuclear power plants over the next half-century would actually increase carbon emissions by 12.5 gigatons."

- Transporting radioactive materials is a highly risky business. Do we really want to have produce a waste that requires THIRTY EIGHT expensive escort vessels!??


In 2003 an industry study found that even a direct-side impact by a large commercial airliner wouldn’t cause a loss of coolant at a nuclear power plant.

They have also rammed full speed trains into the containers that transport Nucleur waste and nothing broke!
Its 2009, they learnt the mistakes from the past.

- And finally, the elephant in the room that's been quite conspicuous by it's absence from debates in recent years - nuclear power plants are inherently dangerous! Have we really forgotten Chernobyl already?


You missed 1979 Three Mile Island accident, oh yeah thats cause NO ONE DIED, and NO ONE GOT ILL.

This is 2009, Nucleur power is safe.

Go watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usg7-xbQOcM
#21
jojothefirst
just kill all cows, or stick a cork up there back side, environment saved, problem solved!


Yes and once they have all been killed we should replace them with kangaroos as they contain a lot of tasty meat and produce much less CO2. World saved and we still get burgers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7551125.stm
#22
jupiter.pluto mars and titan all getting warmer,ice caps on mars are melting-sound familiar?
I actually like the sound of kangaroo meat-good idea olliehayman,dont think the tree huggers like approve tho lol
#23
kk_cheung
I think people posting on this thread have missed the point.


Agreed. Why would anyone want to be at Meadowhall in the first place?
#24
c'mon now if your goinf to make statements then please get the facts right
uranium-238, has a half-life of 1.41 × 1017 seconds (4.46 × 109 years, or 4.46 billion years)
not 4.47 as stated above tut tut how could you get the maths wrong there :P

oh as as for Chernobly, dont forget they were conducting a test where they had removed the safety mech's, not something the NII would allow here, even for testing purposes

as for the above deal, i guess if you have one of these cars then its better than a kick in the nuts so well spotted poster ;)
banned#25
Ajibee
This isn't a deal.

More to the point, it's not even a good free offer. The electricity dispensed will most likely come from CO2 belching coal, gas and oil fired power stations! Not so green after all, unless of course we do the sensible thing and use CO2 free nuclear power to generate electricity (like 80% of French electricity).

The real future for car fuel is hydrogen power cells - not mickey-mouse toy cars with heavy toxic batteries powered by fossil-fuel generated electricity.


Chortle CHortle! What you say may be a bit true, but you are still a total TWONK!!
#26
Ajibee
This isn't a deal.

More to the point, it's not even a good free offer. The electricity dispensed will most likely come from CO2 belching coal, gas and oil fired power stations! Not so green after all, unless of course we do the sensible thing and use CO2 free nuclear power to generate electricity (like 80% of French electricity).

The real future for car fuel is hydrogen power cells - not mickey-mouse toy cars with heavy toxic batteries powered by fossil-fuel generated electricity.


And the energy for the hydrogen fuel cells comes from...?

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