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We are a lifeline to thousands of isolated communities. Imagine if your community had no roads and little access to the outside world. How would you or your family reach a doctor if you're sick … Read More
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We are a lifeline to thousands of isolated communities.

Imagine if your community had no roads and little access to the outside world.

How would you or your family reach a doctor if you're sick or injured? How can you receive an education or job opportunities?

This is the reality for millions of people.

Jungles, mountains, swamps, insecurity and a dilapidated infrastructure are all barriers to receiving physical and spiritual care and a hope for the future.

That’s why we fly.

We are a Christian mission organisation that uses planes to overcome these barriers. Our pilots and personnel deliver relief workers, doctors, pastors, school books, food, medicines - everything that can only be safely and speedily delivered by air.

With an MAF plane taking off or landing every three minutes, the need is huge.

Shared Via The HUKD App For Android.

This is fundraising for Mission Aviation Fellowship. Christian missionaries.
- jonnithomas
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#1
got one just there :) thanks heat added
15 Likes #2
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)
1 Like #3
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)


Why not donate some money? Here you go. https://www.maf-uk.org/?id=266
#4
Markq, you are a good egg and I shall follow suit. Besides, I'ma get me a Star Wars one.
banned 8 Likes #5
mintcondition
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Why not donate some money? Here you go. https://www.maf-uk.org/?id=266

That would defeat the point of getting a free calendar though! If you wanted to pay for a charity calendar then there are no doubt much nicer ones out there. Particularly if you don't want to donate money to Christian missionaries - something I'd never do.

And while I'm sure it's awful for some communities to not have any roads and little access to the outside world, I'm not sure the numerous isolated tribal cultures that MAF have entered and Christianised are really that much better off!

Edited By: stevebax on Dec 09, 2014 22:03: .
1 Like #6
if you work in an office you could raise awareness to others by putting one up there,
just a suggestion!
#7
Seems a shame not to take up the offer since as stated above , it will raise awareness, and also save them from consigning a print run to the recycling bin!:D
#8
Thanks.
#9
thanks heat added :)
#10
thanks. :D
1 Like #11
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Likewise, feel a bit uncomfortable that this is marked as a freebie on here. Still kudos for raising awareness, I'd never heard of them.

As for donating, even if we do, then, sadly, most on here won't.
#12
Thanks. Heat added
#13
heat added - however i wont be ordering this as id much rather donate to the charity! heat though for raising awareness of the charity!
1 Like #14
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)


Ooooohhhh , you're a little softie at heart................. http://media.giphy.com/media/r7UATrefMO99u/giphy.gif Well why are you dawdling ? Clicky X)
#15
I really wish people wouldn't post these charity 'freebies'. Sorry, but I voted cold because most of us will abuse it.
banned 2 Likes #16
toomanychoices
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Likewise, feel a bit uncomfortable that this is marked as a freebie on here. Still kudos for raising awareness, I'd never heard of them.

As for donating, even if we do, then, sadly, most on here won't.

Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here? I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to. These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity - I'd much rather people donated to the myriad of other charities whose main goal is alleviating suffering and not a conversion to Christianity. Christian Aid being a good one for example if you still want to make it to a Christian charity.
#17
Heat Added. x
banned#18
A free calendar
#19
stevebax
toomanychoices
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Likewise, feel a bit uncomfortable that this is marked as a freebie on here. Still kudos for raising awareness, I'd never heard of them.

As for donating, even if we do, then, sadly, most on here won't.

Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here? I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to. These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity - I'd much rather people donated to the myriad of other charities whose main goal is alleviating suffering and not a conversion to Christianity. Christian Aid being a good one for example if you still want to make it to a Christian charity.

No, thank you for the heads up, I confess I hadn't looked into it much, I was turned away by the whole free calendar thing. I'm not religious, though supposedly C of E, and I almost gave my views on so-called 'Christian behaviour' there before I realised I might get lynched, lol.

I appreciate your comments. I was just concerned that people were taking free calenders without giving rather than intending to donate to them myself, if you see what I mean. I really like this site, but have to admit, some of the behaviour especially towards these freebies leaves me more than a little unsettled.


Edited By: toomanychoices on Dec 10, 2014 16:55
banned#20
stevebax
toomanychoices
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Likewise, feel a bit uncomfortable that this is marked as a freebie on here. Still kudos for raising awareness, I'd never heard of them.

As for donating, even if we do, then, sadly, most on here won't.

Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here? I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to. These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity - I'd much rather people donated to the myriad of other charities whose main goal is alleviating suffering and not a conversion to Christianity. Christian Aid being a good one for example if you still want to make it to a Christian charity.

extremely good point, I'm ordering as many as I possibly can
#21
A years supply of calendars.
banned#22
toomanychoices
stevebax
toomanychoices
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Likewise, feel a bit uncomfortable that this is marked as a freebie on here. Still kudos for raising awareness, I'd never heard of them.

As for donating, even if we do, then, sadly, most on here won't.

Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here? I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to. These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity - I'd much rather people donated to the myriad of other charities whose main goal is alleviating suffering and not a conversion to Christianity. Christian Aid being a good one for example if you still want to make it to a Christian charity.

No, thank you for the heads up, I confess I hadn't looked into it much, I was turned away by the whole free calendar thing. I'm not religious, though supposedly C of E, and I almost gave my views on so-called 'Christian behaviour' there before I realised I might get lynched, lol.

I appreciate your comments. I was just concerned that people were taking free calenders without giving rather than intending to donate to them myself, if you see what I mean. I really like this site, but have to admit, some of the behaviour especially towards these freebies leaves me more than a little unsettled.


No worries, I just wanted to make sure people knew exactly what this charity was about before extolling their virtues!

hukdealz
stevebax
toomanychoices
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Likewise, feel a bit uncomfortable that this is marked as a freebie on here. Still kudos for raising awareness, I'd never heard of them.

As for donating, even if we do, then, sadly, most on here won't.

Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here? I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to. These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity - I'd much rather people donated to the myriad of other charities whose main goal is alleviating suffering and not a conversion to Christianity. Christian Aid being a good one for example if you still want to make it to a Christian charity.

extremely good point, I'm ordering as many as I possibly can

That wasn't my point... While I've made my views on them quite clear, I wouldn't personally encourage people to exploit them. I don't like their activities but at the end of the day, they're still trying to help people (and I'd imagine even a lot of the people being brainwashed/bribed into converting to Christianity are actually better off anyway - they've had their minds corrupted but at least they now have food and clean water!).

Edited By: stevebax on Dec 10, 2014 22:00
#23
toomanychoices
stevebax


Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here? I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to. These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity - I'd much rather people donated to the myriad of other charities whose main goal is alleviating suffering and not a conversion to Christianity. Christian Aid being a good one for example if you still want to make it to a Christian charity.

No, thank you for the heads up, I confess I hadn't looked into it much, I was turned away by the whole free calendar thing. I'm not religious, though supposedly C of E, and I almost gave my views on so-called 'Christian behaviour' there before I realised I might get lynched, lol.

I appreciate your comments. I was just concerned that people were taking free calenders without giving rather than intending to donate to them myself, if you see what I mean. I really like this site, but have to admit, some of the behaviour especially towards these freebies leaves me more than a little unsettled.


Just wanted to reply to this as well. I've had dealings with MAF in the past and I have never seen any of this aggressive recruitment that stevebax has his heart set on. I'd not just blindly follow his word on this, there is a lot of nonsense out there on the internet.
#24
[quote=stevebax]

Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here?

Have you? Judging by the rest of the post, you haven't.

I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to.

These guys are involved in helping the fight against Ebola - what are you doing? You may think fighting Ebola isn't a worthy cause, but surely that is for the individual to decide, not you.

These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity

Do you have any evidence of this? I'd imagine that this is extremely hard to prove since I don't believe it to be true and, if that is the case, may leave you vulnerable from a legal standpoint. Unless you are certain this has happened I'd consider thinking twice before posting conjecture on the internet.

Edited By: Ronnie_S on Dec 11, 2014 00:40: note to mods is now unnecessary
#25
Thanks op ordered 4 for different addresses
banned#26
Ronnie_S
stevebax


[quote=] Have you actually looked at the charity being promoted here?

Have you? Judging by the rest of the post, you haven't.

I'm personally very glad the majority on here won't donate. There are FAR more worthy charities to donate to.

These guys are involved in helping the fight against Ebola - what are you doing? You may think fighting Ebola isn't a worthy cause, but surely that is for the individual to decide, not you.

These guys are missionaries who simply use aid as bribes to convert to Christianity

Do you have any evidence of this? I'd imagine that this is extremely hard to prove since I don't believe it to be true and, if that is the case, may leave you vulnerable from a legal standpoint. Unless you are certain this has happened I'd consider thinking twice before posting conjecture on the internet.

Of course I have... How on Earth would I know any of this stuff if I hadn't looked into them!? You may not agree with my interpretation, but it's blatantly obvious I have.

Yes, I have plenty of evidence... Their activities are well documented on the web, and their own website talks about bringing the Gospel to people. They were involved in the infamous incident in Ecuador where they attempted to convert a previously largely uncontacted tribe to Christianity with disastrous consequences.

I don't doubt they also do good - as I clarified in a later post (and admittedly should have stated outright), but that doesn't change the fact that they are Christian missionaries. It's in the name... Mission Aviation Fellowship.

As to what I'm doing to fight Ebola - not a lot. Though I do support numerous charities who put 100% of their effort into helping as opposed to MAF who are proselytisers (who yes, also do good).

As to your ridiculous legal argument, can I assume you're also the type of people who quotes non-existent legislation at retail workers if you don't get your own way? I have a legal right to hold any opinion I like of any organisation I like. The idea that I can't claim missionaries convert people to Christianity, which is the entire point of a mission, is laughable.

Edited By: stevebax on Dec 11, 2014 01:11
#27
tomdavidrichards
Thanks op ordered 4 for different addresses

And so it goes on................
1 Like #28
Of course I have... How on Earth would I know any of this stuff if I hadn't looked into them!? You may not agree with my interpretation, but it's blatantly obvious I have.

'interpretation' is laughable. Simply making things up on the internet is not 'interpreting' anything, it's lying.

Yes, I have plenty of evidence... Their activities are well documented on the web, and their own website talks about bringing the Gospel to people. They were involved in the infamous incident in Ecuador where they attempted to convert a previously largely uncontacted tribe to Christianity with disastrous consequences.

Please go ahead and post it.

I don't doubt they also do good - as I clarified in a later post (and admittedly should have stated outright), but that doesn't change the fact that they are Christian missionaries. It's in the name... Mission Aviation Fellowship.

I know they are Christian missionaries, I never stated otherwise. This, however, does NOT confirm that they are BRIBING people to become Christian, does it?

As to what I'm doing to fight Ebola - not a lot.

Not surprised.

Though I do support numerous charities who put 100% of their effort into helping as opposed to MAF who are proselytisers (who yes, also do good).

Translated: 'oh noes, there is a charity who do good things, they must be opposed.'

Seriously?

As to your ridiculous legal argument, can I assume you're also the type of people who quotes non-existent legislation at retail workers if you don't get your own way?

Nah, my best mate is a lawyer though, and we've discussed this sort of thing before.

I have a legal right to hold any opinion I like of any organisation I like.

Not if it is an outright lie.

The idea that I can't claim missionaries convert people to Christianity, which is the entire point of a mission, is laughable.

There is a difference between claiming an organisation converts people to Christianity and that it BRIBES people to convert to Christianity, can you not see the difference? They do not refuse aid to non-Christians, which is what you are heavily implying.

Edited By: Ronnie_S on Dec 11, 2014 15:43
#29
Ronnie_S
Of course I have... How on Earth would I know any of this stuff if I hadn't looked into them!? You may not agree with my interpretation, but it's blatantly obvious I have.

'interpretation' is laughable. Simply making things up on the internet is not 'interpreting' anything, it's lying.

Yes, I have plenty of evidence... Their activities are well documented on the web, and their own website talks about bringing the Gospel to people. They were involved in the infamous incident in Ecuador where they attempted to convert a previously largely uncontacted tribe to Christianity with disastrous consequences.

Please go ahead and post it.

I don't doubt they also do good - as I clarified in a later post (and admittedly should have stated outright), but that doesn't change the fact that they are Christian missionaries. It's in the name... Mission Aviation Fellowship.

I know they are Christian missionaries, I never stated otherwise. This, however, does NOT confirm that they are BRIBING people to become Christian, does it?

As to what I'm doing to fight Ebola - not a lot.

Not surprised.

Though I do support numerous charities who put 100% of their effort into helping as opposed to MAF who are proselytisers (who yes, also do good).

Translated: 'oh noes, there is a charity who do good things, they must be opposed.'

Seriously?

As to your ridiculous legal argument, can I assume you're also the type of people who quotes non-existent legislation at retail workers if you don't get your own way?

Nah, my best mate is a lawyer though, and we've discussed this sort of thing before.

I have a legal right to hold any opinion I like of any organisation I like.

Not if it is an outright lie.

The idea that I can't claim missionaries convert people to Christianity, which is the entire point of a mission, is laughable.

There is a difference between claiming an organisation converts people to Christianity and that it BRIBES people to convert to Christianity, can you not see the difference? They do not refuse aid to non-Christians, which is what you are heavily implying.

Stop it children
banned#30
nice one thanks a bunch i ordered a couple
#31
tomdavidrichards


Stop it children

Yes mum :)
#32
I'm sure my next door neighbour would love one of these.;)
#33
stevebax
mintcondition
markq
Sounds like a great cause but I am not sure I agree with taking a freebie from them which means I am costing the charity money not giving them it.

Voted hot for raising awareness rather than the freebie :)

Why not donate some money? Here you go. https://www.maf-uk.org/?id=266

That would defeat the point of getting a free calendar though! If you wanted to pay for a charity calendar then there are no doubt much nicer ones out there. Particularly if you don't want to donate money to Christian missionaries - something I'd never do.

And while I'm sure it's awful for some communities to not have any roads and little access to the outside world, I'm not sure the numerous isolated tribal cultures that MAF have entered and Christianised are really that much better off!

This article from Matthew Parris is worth a read on that subject...

http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/3502-matthew-parris-as-an-atheist-i-truly-believe-africa-needs-god
1 Like #34
My calender arived today
#35
I would not be surprised if the charity sent a donation form with the calendar. This was the case with the "free" Guide Dogs calendar also posted here.

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