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#1
Voted cold I'm afraid.

In my opinion, the whole notion of climate change being caused by carbon emissions is a complete myth. So many people's jobs rely on this myth nowadays that it is spiralling out of control. The planet's climate has been changing for millions of years. Through periods of extreme heat to extreme cold. And this has been caused by solar activity (ie. changes in the sun) and NOT human activity!
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Voted cold as I hate propaganda. Even when it is free.
#3
Not too sure about this one! Personally I think the 'Climate Warming' stuff is a lot of hyp about nothing. There have been several times in history when this country became warmer (we grew citrus fruit and grapes here in the middle ages). Such warming is cyclical, and no doubt governments will be putting fear into the people in 500 years time.

Funny though, in the 70s scientists were predicting another ice age! Global Warming is big business.

Note voted cold because I realise that the book may appeal to those who accept the theory.
#4
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]The Myth Of Global Warming
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Green groups such as Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace, the World Wildlife Fund and Earth First are using their influence to persuade people that an environmental disaster of historic proportions is just around the corner. As Barbara Mass of the Pan African Conservation Group succinctly puts it: "I think we're going to drown in our own muck."Environmentalist thinking is now widely accepted in the West. However, many scientists argue that what the Greens say about global warming and pollution is wrong. Professor Wilfred Beckerman, a former member of the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution, was himself an enthusiastic environmentalist until he started examining the facts. He told Against Nature: "Within a few months of looking at the statistical data, I realised that most of my concerns about the environment were based on false information and scare stories."
According to Piers Corbyn, Director of Weather Action, many scientists do not accept the idea that pollution is causing global warming. Environmentalists claim that world temperatures have risen one degree Fahrenheit in the past century, but Corbyn points out that the period they take as their starting point — around 1880 — was colder than average. What's more, the timing of temperature changes does not appear to support the theory of global warming. Most of the rise came before 1940 —before human-caused emissions of 'greenhouse' gases became significant.
According to the Greens, during the post-war boom global warming should have pushed temperatures up. But the opposite happened. "As a matter of the fact, the decrease in temperature, which was very noticeable in the 60s and 70s, led many people to fear that we would be going into another ice age," remembers Fred Singer, former Chief Scientist with the US Weather Program.

Even in recent times, the temperature has not behaved as it should according to global warming theory. Over the last eight years, temperature in the southern hemisphere has actually been falling. Moreover, says Piers Corbyn, "When proper satellite measurements are done of world temperatures, they do not show any increase whatsoever over the last 20 years."
But Greens refuse to accept they have could have been proved wrong. Now they say global warming can involve temperature going both up and down. "Global warming is above all global climatic destabilisation," says Edward Goldsmith, editor of the Ecologist, "with extremes of cold and heat when you don't expect it. You can't predict climate any more. You get terrible droughts in certain cases; sometimes you get downpours. In Egypt, I think, they had a rainfall for the first time in history — they suddenly had an incredible downpour. Water pouring down in places where it's never rained before. And then you get droughts in another area. So it's going to be extremely unpredictable."
Scientists also point out that nature produces far more greenhouse gases than we do. For example, when the Mount Pinatubo volcano erupted, within just a few hours it had thrown into the atmosphere 30 million tonnes of sulphur dioxide— almost twice as much as all the factories, power plants and cars in the United States do in a whole year. Oceans emit 90 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, every year. Decaying plants throw up another 90 billion tonnes, compared to just six billion tonnes a year from humans.
What's more, 100 million years ago, there was six times as much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as there is now, yet the temperature then was marginally cooler than it is today. Many scientists have concluded that carbon dioxide doesn't even affect climate.
Although many environmentalists have been forced to accept much of the scientific evidence against global warming, they still argue that it is better to be safe than sorry. So they continue to use global warming as a reason to oppose industrialisation and economic growth.
#5
just a question to those who voted this cold what do you think of patio heaters?

i havent ordered this book i have no interest in it.

the reason i asked is that there so many people were against patio heaters coz the said caused ' global warming'
#6
Miss Pink
just a question to those who voted this cold what do you think of patio heaters?

Good question :) I don't have one, so can't comment, sorry.
#7
Miss Pink
just a question to those who voted this cold what do you think of patio heaters?

i havent ordered this book i have no interest in it.

the reason i asked is that there so many people were against patio heaters coz the said caused ' global warming'


I was not a cold voter, but though I'd comment on patio heaters. I cannot see the problem. The heat dissapates within a few metres of the patio, so cannot reach the ozone layer. Surely if there was a problem the government ought to ban Bonfire Night, New Years Firework celebrations, and those fireworks that will be used for the upcoming London Games. You see, even they don't believe the hyp.
#8
i was just wondering and i brought a patio heater yesterday, thanx for you replys :thumbsup:
#9
Predikuesi
I was not a cold voter, but though I'd comment on patio heaters. I cannot see the problem. The heat dissapates within a few metres of the patio, so cannot reach the ozone layer. Surely if there was a problem the government ought to ban Bonfire Night, New Years Firework celebrations, and those fireworks that will be used for the upcoming London Games. You see, even they don't believe the hyp.


The heat isn't the problem, it's the gases and toxins given off that are :roll:
#10
simate
The heat isn't the problem, it's the gases and toxins given off that are :roll:


Noooooooo! These fall to the earth once they are broken down rather than rise to the ozone layer. If your comment was true, then smokers would be culperable too!
#11
I am not an expert on the patio heaters debate but I expect it is scare-mongering dreamt up by a hippy!

How many patio heaters are around anyway?
#12
Fair enough, you may think that too much hype has been placed in global warming and I'm not in agreement with the way some of it has been presented and yes, I agree that in some cases there has been added spin (which being used to the ways of politicians this would be read as 'less substance, more spin')..

..however, to suggest that this is all a way to keep people in jobs (that's like saying, if we stopped dropping litter on the streets, the streetcleaners would be out of work) or that what we do doesn't have a impact on the planet around us - well, I'm pretty gobsmacked!

YES, if you desire don't believe the global warming theory, but no one knows for sure what the actions of today will mean tomorrow - you don't have to subscibe to any theory to know that releasing toxins and waste into the environment really can't have anything but a negative effect.

YES, climate change has been going on for years, but our world has never quite looked as it does nowadays - for all our technological advances - yes, we've always had the likes of mining, but never as intense as it is nowadays which monster trucks doing the work which would have taken much longer in the past. Everyone has more electrical products not only to power in their lifespan, but also to 'get rid of' when they break OR moreso nowadays, when they upgrade with the next piece of electronics.

It doesn't matter about being inagreement with theories or not - it's about respect and thought being given to things - if something can be recycled over ending up in a landfill... if something that's not being used can be swictched off...

Of course, in many cases people think "well, I won't be around, what do I care" - which is probably right, we won't be so we can all rest easy.
#13
Dave
Fair enough, you may think that too much hype has been placed in global warming and I'm not in agreement with the way some of it has been presented and yes, I agree that in some cases there has been added spin (which being used to the ways of politicians this would be read as 'less substance, more spin')..

..however, to suggest that this is all a way to keep people in jobs (that's like saying, if we stopped dropping litter on the streets, the streetcleaners would be out of work) or that what we do doesn't have a impact on the planet around us - well, I'm pretty gobsmacked!

YES, if you desire don't believe the global warming theory, but no one knows for sure what the actions of today will mean tomorrow - you don't have to subscibe to any theory to know that releasing toxins and waste into the environment really can't have anything but a negative effect.

YES, climate change has been going on for years, but our world has never quite looked as it does nowadays - for all our technological advances - yes, we've always had the likes of mining, but never as intense as it is nowadays which monster trucks doing the work which would have taken much longer in the past. Everyone has more electrical products not only to power in their lifespan, but also to 'get rid of' when they break OR moreso nowadays, when they upgrade with the next piece of electronics.

It doesn't matter about being inagreement with theories or not - it's about respect and thought being given to things - if something can be recycled over ending up in a landfill... if something that's not being used can be swictched off...

Of course, in many cases people think "well, I won't be around, what do I care" - which is probably right, we won't be so we can all rest easy.


Fair comment! I do recycle everything possible. Everything we can do to make life and the enviroment better has to be good. I think though, we are not subscribing to the fear tactics used by governments who are trying to control the way we think and act. They use Global Warming like a brain washing techinque.
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Dave
to suggest that this is all a way to keep people in jobs (that's like saying, if we stopped dropping litter on the streets, the streetcleaners would be out of work)


This is quite a good analogy actually! The people hyping up global warming caused by carbon emissions are like street cleaners dropping litter themselves to keep themselves in a job. If the "environmental journalists" which are employed by every major newspaper, TV network etc didnt have any major, shocking headlines for their editors, they would be out of a job. A headline of "Oceans and plants emit 30 times more carbon than humans per year" doesnt have as much impact as "driving your car to the shops this afternoon will drown thousands of polar bears next week".

Dave
climate change has been going on for years, but our world has never quite looked as it does nowadays


You're right. And in a thousand years the world will look completely different again to what it does today (unless it has been blown up by nuclear bombs which IMO is much more of a threat to our existence that global warming!)

Dave
It doesn't matter about being inagreement with theories or not - it's about respect and thought being given to things - if something can be recycled over ending up in a landfill... if something that's not being used can be swictched off...


I completely agree. I am not against recycling, or turning things off when they are not used. I would promote these thoughts and actions also.

What I am against is the government and media building everyone up into a frenzy about global warming being caused by carbon emissions. It makes them so much money that they would be lost without it!
#15
Nobody got anything to add? :-(

Bored at work so need a good old debate to keep me awake!!
#16
iglimpse
Jury is still out on this one with me


I don't think the Jury will bother coming back in though!
#17
Well ive sent off for mine.global warming or not id rather live in a clean enviroment n know ive done my bit.its fun for kids to learn about and enjoy.we have started recycling n growing some of our own stuff.
#18
Ian182
I am not an expert on the patio heaters debate but I expect it is scare-mongering dreamt up by a hippy!

How many patio heaters are around anyway?


Too many, if the recent special offers are anything to go by. It's as if they want everyone to have one :roll:
#19
the global warming rubbish that is being spouted is just another way for the governments around the world to tax people even more than we are already.

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