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Get an Electric Car charging station (worth £1,200) installed for free! This is centrally funded by the Government. Choose ZeroCarbonWorld to do this work and every £1 goes back into the charities work of eliminating our dependancy on fossil fuels.

We're a family of 5 and have a 100% Electric Nissan LEAF. We have driven 14,000 miles in under a year and would not go back to driving legacy diesel / petrol cars. 90% cheaper running costs, £0 road tax and congestion charge. £0 Company Car Tax.

Release yourself from diesel / petrol reliance. And yes you can choose a provider like Good Energy or Ecotricity if you want to charge from 100% Renewable Energy.

If you don't have an Electric Car yet - May I suggest you choose the 32A Mennekes socket option then you can just buy the connecting cable. Mennekes is the EU Standard so all cars can connect to this socket, with a cable.
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It's not 'FREE'! The taxpayer bears the cost. It will cost taxpayers £37 million to pay for the plug-in points -- £13.5 million for the homeowner ones. This is part of the Government’s (taxpayers') £400million package to increase the uptake of ultra-low emission or ‘green’ vehicles. There's a £5,000 subsidy given to each electric car purchaser to make them 'affordable' (£8,000 for electric van owners).
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nikmods
come on guys. lets try to avoid this electric vs fossil fuel debate

if we don't try, we will never know

I do think that this is a great way to try and make electric cars more accessible to the general population

tesla have their 70a super chargers and these are 32a so will really make a difference when charging

What many forget that people believe it is 'free' and 'clean', but the environmental cost to build these cars and batteries and power them with coal is unreal. The only viable future in cars is the hydrogen cell.
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BMW i3 Range Extender has 180 mile range. Nissan LEAF reacharges from flat in under 30 minutes at a Rapid Charger, and for free. Again, 14,000 miles in a year in a Nissan LEAF. Walking the talk here.

Remember folks Top Gear is an ENTERTAINMENT show, not a motoring show ;-) Jeremy Clarkson is, of course, a buffoon.
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Lmao... Until your batteries need replacing then what? Your savings go out the window.
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Batteries will not drop below 70% until at least 10 years and as they are modular by design, you just replacing the failing modules. Think of it as the same as a clutch change in about 10 years time.

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#1
Tell me more!
12 Likes #2
Lmao... Until your batteries need replacing then what? Your savings go out the window.
#3
bit vague!
10 Likes #4
Batteries will not drop below 70% until at least 10 years and as they are modular by design, you just replacing the failing modules. Think of it as the same as a clutch change in about 10 years time.
banned 1 Like #5
AdDaMan
Lmao... Until your batteries need replacing then what? Your savings go out the window.

Er..... ever heard of leasing?
oO
6 Likes #6
come on guys. lets try to avoid this electric vs fossil fuel debate

if we don't try, we will never know

I do think that this is a great way to try and make electric cars more accessible to the general population

tesla have their 70a super chargers and these are 32a so will really make a difference when charging
1 Like #7
i wonder if the text is a copy paste or they wrote it lol. I would release myself from diesel however 124 miles per charge is terrible since i need to do over twice that when i need to use my car :/ so it would be a 22 hour drive not 3-5...

However nice offer for people with electric cars.
1 Like #8
Thanks for this information.
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hambrook
Batteries will not drop below 70% until at least 10 years and as they are modular by design, you just replacing the failing modules. Think of it as the same as a clutch change in about 10 years time.

Driving over 12.5k miles a year severely does as admitted by Nissan.
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BMW i3 Range Extender has 180 mile range. Nissan LEAF reacharges from flat in under 30 minutes at a Rapid Charger, and for free. Again, 14,000 miles in a year in a Nissan LEAF. Walking the talk here.

Remember folks Top Gear is an ENTERTAINMENT show, not a motoring show ;-) Jeremy Clarkson is, of course, a buffoon.
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This is an exceptional offer. Thank you for posting it.
Of course there's no reason not to pay £1.40 for each litre of petrol if you prefer!
Note that chargemaster also have a very similar same offer via British gas.
Crucially you do not even need to own an electric car to be eligible for the offer.
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nikmods
come on guys. lets try to avoid this electric vs fossil fuel debate

if we don't try, we will never know

I do think that this is a great way to try and make electric cars more accessible to the general population

tesla have their 70a super chargers and these are 32a so will really make a difference when charging

What many forget that people believe it is 'free' and 'clean', but the environmental cost to build these cars and batteries and power them with coal is unreal. The only viable future in cars is the hydrogen cell.
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Have a chat with @aminorjourney on Twitter ; 42,000 miles on 2 years in her LEAF no loss of any of the 12 capacity bars. UK has a perfect climate for Electric Cars not too hot or cold.

14,000 miles done here and no loss of any range, at all. Speak to actual drivers.
1 Like #14
" ...legacy diesel / petrol cars." RFLOL -- not for a good few years yet!
#15
Amazed the government is doing this free. Not sure what type to get since I don't have an electric car yet but I'm thinking type 2 untethered
#16
Can anyone explain the differences between the free charger options on offer?
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m5rcc
nikmods
come on guys. lets try to avoid this electric vs fossil fuel debate

if we don't try, we will never know

I do think that this is a great way to try and make electric cars more accessible to the general population

tesla have their 70a super chargers and these are 32a so will really make a difference when charging

What many forget that people believe it is 'free' and 'clean', but the environmental cost to build these cars and batteries and power them with coal is unreal. The only viable future in cars is the hydrogen cell.

Don't be so close minded, huge advances in solar technology are being made
#18
jumpinoffthbed
m5rcc
nikmods
come on guys. lets try to avoid this electric vs fossil fuel debate

if we don't try, we will never know

I do think that this is a great way to try and make electric cars more accessible to the general population

tesla have their 70a super chargers and these are 32a so will really make a difference when charging

What many forget that people believe it is 'free' and 'clean', but the environmental cost to build these cars and batteries and power them with coal is unreal. The only viable future in cars is the hydrogen cell.

Don't be so close minded, huge advances in solar technology are being made

Just being a realist - I'd rather advocate bangernomics than promote everyone to drive electric vehicles powered by fossil fuels indirectly.
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As solar & battery technology improves it's only logical that there will come a time where we harvest or own electricity efficiently enough that we don't need power companies who use fossil fuels.
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It's not 'FREE'! The taxpayer bears the cost. It will cost taxpayers £37 million to pay for the plug-in points -- £13.5 million for the homeowner ones. This is part of the Government’s (taxpayers') £400million package to increase the uptake of ultra-low emission or ‘green’ vehicles. There's a £5,000 subsidy given to each electric car purchaser to make them 'affordable' (£8,000 for electric van owners).
5 Likes #21
Again, choose an energy provider like Good Energy or Ecotricity and you can charge an Electric car from 100% Renewable Electricity. Or install your own solar power or change to Economy 7 meter and save even more.

But drive a diesel / petrol car and you can only by one source of fuel, conctrolled by OPEC and taxed to heck by UK Gov.

Electrcity only attracts 5% VAT and no fuel duty. Again it's a no brainer.
3 Likes #22
Let's not go horribly off topic with government subsidies as Oil / fracking / any other fuel source all get them and / or tax cuts.
#23
Sorry for my ignorance, and this is a genuine question, but this appears to be an offer to install a plug socket against a wall, such installation normally costing £1,200. Why is that any different to say, a normal plug socket in your house? Is there a special connector?

Otherwise i'm becoming an electriction re-wiring houses for £50k.
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pasheast
It's not 'FREE'! The taxpayer bears the cost. It will cost taxpayers £37 million to pay for the plug-in points -- £13.5 million for the homeowner ones. This is part of the Government’s (taxpayers') £400million package to increase the uptake of ultra-low emission or ‘green’ vehicles. There's a £5,000 subsidy given to each electric car purchaser to make them 'affordable' (£8,000 for electric van owners).


HS2 - 36billion... I know which project I'd rather scrap
#25
Which type is needed for a Ford?
#26
pasheast
It's not 'FREE'! The taxpayer bears the cost. It will cost taxpayers £37 million to pay for the plug-in points -- £13.5 million for the homeowner ones. This is part of the Government’s (taxpayers') £400million package to increase the uptake of ultra-low emission or ‘green’ vehicles. There's a £5,000 subsidy given to each electric car purchaser to make them 'affordable' (£8,000 for electric van owners).


You mean subsidies given to rich people who can afford new cars?

I don't get who pays for the electricity being used on this?
#27
hambrook
Again, choose an energy provider like Good Energy or Ecotricity and you can charge an Electric car from 100% Renewable Electricity. Or install your own solar power or change to Economy 7 meter and save even more.

But drive a diesel / petrol car and you can only by one source of fuel, conctrolled by OPEC and taxed to heck by UK Gov.

Electrcity only attracts 5% VAT and no fuel duty. Again it's a no brainer.

It's only a no-brainer if you wish to travel short distances. Forget driving anywhere outside M25 if you live in central London.

In the US, it is already calculated that it you would have to drive the Leaf 164,000 miles to recover its additional purchase cost. Counting interest, the miles to payback is 197,000 miles. And as it is almost impossible to drive a Leaf more than 60 miles a charge (day in reality), the payback with interest would take more than nine years.
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m5rcc
It's only a no-brainer if you wish to travel short distances. Forget driving anywhere outside M25 if you live in central London.

In the US, it is already calculated that it you would have to drive the Leaf 164,000 miles to recover its additional purchase cost. Counting interest, the miles to payback is 197,000 miles. And as it is almost impossible to drive a Leaf more than 60 miles a charge (day in reality), the payback with interest would take more than nine years.

- Ex demonstrator LEAFs with under 5k miles widely available for under £15k on Auto Trader
- It costs me less to lease a Nissan LEAF than a VW Golf Bluemotion (Don't forget £0 company car tax with a LEAF vs £100pm for s Golf)
- Plenty of charging available outside M25; I live on the south coast with 95% of my charging from home but Chargers in local shopping centers and a rapid charger 5 miles away at WKB Nissan Waterlooville.
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m5rcc
hambrook
Again, choose an energy provider like Good Energy or Ecotricity and you can charge an Electric car from 100% Renewable Electricity. Or install your own solar power or change to Economy 7 meter and save even more.

But drive a diesel / petrol car and you can only by one source of fuel, conctrolled by OPEC and taxed to heck by UK Gov.

Electrcity only attracts 5% VAT and no fuel duty. Again it's a no brainer.

It's only a no-brainer if you wish to travel short distances. Forget driving anywhere outside M25 if you live in central London.

In the US, it is already calculated that it you would have to drive the Leaf 164,000 miles to recover its additional purchase cost. Counting interest, the miles to payback is 197,000 miles. And as it is almost impossible to drive a Leaf more than 60 miles a charge (day in reality), the payback with interest would take more than nine years.
m5rcc
hambrook
Again, choose an energy provider like Good Energy or Ecotricity and you can charge an Electric car from 100% Renewable Electricity. Or install your own solar power or change to Economy 7 meter and save even more.

But drive a diesel / petrol car and you can only by one source of fuel, conctrolled by OPEC and taxed to heck by UK Gov.

Electrcity only attracts 5% VAT and no fuel duty. Again it's a no brainer.

It's only a no-brainer if you wish to travel short distances. Forget driving anywhere outside M25 if you live in central London.

In the US, it is already calculated that it you would have to drive the Leaf 164,000 miles to recover its additional purchase cost. Counting interest, the miles to payback is 197,000 miles. And as it is almost impossible to drive a Leaf more than 60 miles a charge (day in reality), the payback with interest would take more than nine years.

You can lease a LEAF for £200 per month.

Electricity for the charging station installed at your home would be your electricity, if you plug a car into it.

Rapid Charger charging is free at Nissan Dealers as part of owning the car and NIssan understanding you need Rapid Charging to make longer journeys.
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hambrook
m5rcc
It's only a no-brainer if you wish to travel short distances. Forget driving anywhere outside M25 if you live in central London.

In the US, it is already calculated that it you would have to drive the Leaf 164,000 miles to recover its additional purchase cost. Counting interest, the miles to payback is 197,000 miles. And as it is almost impossible to drive a Leaf more than 60 miles a charge (day in reality), the payback with interest would take more than nine years.

- Ex demonstrator LEAFs with under 5k miles widely available for under £15k on Auto Trader
- It costs me less to lease a Nissan LEAF than a VW Golf Bluemotion (Don't forget £0 company car tax with a LEAF vs £100pm for s Golf)
- Plenty of charging available outside M25; I live on the south coast with 95% of my charging from home but Chargers in local shopping centers and a rapid charger 5 miles away at WKB Nissan Waterlooville.

50% depreciation in one year is not great is it? Sorry but you won't convince me. The range and lack of performance is the killer for me.

For little more than the cost of a Leaf new, one might as well buy a new BMW F30 320d Efficient Dynamics for £28k giving 65 genuine mpg with £20 road tax.
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m5rcc
50% depreciation in one year is not great is it? Sorry but you won't convince me. The range and lack of performance is the killer for me.

For little more than the cost of a Leaf new, one might as well buy a new BMW F30 320d Efficient Dynamics for £28k giving 65 genuine mpg with £20 road tax.

...but you are tied to a fuel source that will increase in price and will run out. We used to spend £2,000 a year on Diesel we spend less than £200 on electric. Simple calculations. And with essentially 3 moving parts, vs 500 in a 'normal' car servicing is less and less to go wrong... No explosive fuels or oils.
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hambrook
m5rcc
50% depreciation in one year is not great is it? Sorry but you won't convince me. The range and lack of performance is the killer for me.

For little more than the cost of a Leaf new, one might as well buy a new BMW F30 320d Efficient Dynamics for £28k giving 65 genuine mpg with £20 road tax.

...but you are tied to a fuel source that will increase in price and will run out. We used to spend £2,000 a year on Diesel we spend less than £200 on electric. Simple calculations. And with essentially 3 moving parts, vs 500 in a 'normal' car servicing is less and less to go wrong... No explosive fuels or oils.

Again, you're contradicting yourself as the electricity comes from a power station that is burning fossil fuels. The UK are so behind in renewables that it is only likely to come from coal, oil or gas. AGR reactors exist but have smaller outputs.

The only viable EV going forward will be the hydrogen cell.
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m5rcc

Again, you're contradicting yourself as the electricity comes from a power station that is burning fossil fuels. The UK are so behind in renewables that it is only likely to come from coal, oil or gas. AGR reactors exist but have smaller outputs.

The only viable EV going forward will be the hydrogen cell.

Not at all, for the third time; if you buy your electricity from suppliers such as Good Energy or Ecotricity then 100% of this IS from Renewable energy sources - ZERO fossil fuel.

Hydrogen Cell is the Oil industries response to control supply. It takes ENORMOUS amounts of electricity to capture hydrogen - 4 units or electricity for every 1 of hydrogen produced. Then you have to build the whole new infratrstructure for storage and distribution, and of course it will be taxed like Diesel. And guess what - hydrogen fuel cell cars have the same range as electric cars.

With electric we already have the whole grid in place. A Nissan LEAF can just plug into a 3 pin plug for a trcikle charge or one of these Free charging station for a faster charge.

Edited By: hambrook on Aug 13, 2013 13:51
#34
hambrook
m5rcc

Again, you're contradicting yourself as the electricity comes from a power station that is burning fossil fuels. The UK are so behind in renewables that it is only likely to come from coal, oil or gas. AGR reactors exist but have smaller outputs.

The only viable EV going forward will be the hydrogen cell.

Not at all, for the third time; if you buy your electricity from suppliers such as Good Energy or Ecotricity then 100% of this IS from Renewable energy sources - ZERO fossil fuel.

Hydrogen Cell is the Oil industries response to control supply. It takes ENORMOUS amounts of electricity to capture hydrogen - 4 units or electricity for every 1 of hydrogen produced. Then you have to build the whole new infratrstructure for storage and distribution, and of course it will be taxed like Diesel. With electric we already have the whole grid in place. A Nissan LEAF can just plug into a 3 pin plug for a trcikle charge or one of these Free charging station for a faster charge.

Yes but those providers of renewables are dearer than 'conventional' suppliers.

Anyhow, good luck with the Leaf. It's just not for me.
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Chulmney_Warner
Sorry for my ignorance, and this is a genuine question, but this appears to be an offer to install a plug socket against a wall, such installation normally costing £1,200. Why is that any different to say, a normal plug socket in your house? Is there a special connector?Otherwise i'm becoming an electriction re-wiring houses for £50k.

It needs a dedicated fusebox, suitable wiring to the outlet, and external box with cable attached to a special type (J2 I think) plug. External outlet has electronics to 'communicate' with the car regarding charging capability and status. A wee bit more than a 13 amp socket.
2 Likes #36
Another taxpayer-funded, EU Directive led scam - just like solar panels: thieving from the poor to give to the wealthy. Great.
2 Likes #37
h8ten
Chulmney_Warner
Sorry for my ignorance, and this is a genuine question, but this appears to be an offer to install a plug socket against a wall, such installation normally costing £1,200. Why is that any different to say, a normal plug socket in your house? Is there a special connector?Otherwise i'm becoming an electriction re-wiring houses for £50k.

It needs a dedicated fusebox, suitable wiring to the outlet, and external box with cable attached to a special type (J2 I think) plug. External outlet has electronics to 'communicate' with the car regarding charging capability and status. A wee bit more than a 13 amp socket.

Correct there is an EVSE protocol that detects the required charge for the car and also checks for any faults. There are also relays etc inside the charging station to control the switching of the current. 32Amps is a serious cable.
#38
Not sure if I have missed something here, but why would anyone that doesn't own an electric car want one of these?
1 Like #39
ChrisPalmer
Another taxpayer-funded, EU Directive led scam - just like solar panels: thieving from the poor to give to the wealthy. Great.

How does this argument work? Who are the poor that are being 'stolen' from and who are the 'rich' that are gaining?
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