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ECOPLUS ... an environmentally friendly fuel additiv

By adding 0.5ml of Ecoplus to 1 liter of gasoline. For example add 25ml of Ecoplus to 50 liters of gasoline. Ecoplus is a combustion enhancer.

When you add Ecoplus to your gasoline, the calcium in it allows the gasoline to burn more completely. The calcium increases the combustion.

Save 11 yen per liter for every 5 yen you spend on Ecoplus. Each 950ml bottle treats 1871-2422 liters.

We guarantee that your mileage will improve by 10% or more. If it doesn?we will give you your money back.

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#1
Would you really want to put this into your engine?
#2
i dunno i dont drive ,, mqy be usefull ton someone ,, i think its like redx
#3
It's not, it's pseduo-science and a waste of time and money, sadly.
#4
people like you are the reason people like me dont post very often ,,
how the heck can this be a waste of money when its [SIZE="4"]free [/SIZE]
#5
Is your time not worth money to you? Is your engine not worth money to you? Don't answer the second part; you wouldn't be putting this into your car. I note that you feel unhappy that the deal (even if a free sample) has been slated by me, but that's life. It's a useless, made up, rubbish product. Would you prefer people to not say anything and people to waste their time (and potentially money)? Just being free doesn't prevent something from being bad, especially when consequential damage from it can be massive.
#6
pghstochaj
It's not, it's pseduo-science and a waste of time and money, sadly.


There is absolutely no point in you coming along and posting statements like this unless you are also willing to share with us why/how you "know" this to be true.

Thanks for posting, button_moon.
#7
pghstochaj
Is your time not worth money to you? Is your engine not worth money to you? Don't answer the second part; you wouldn't be putting this into your car. I note that you feel unhappy that the deal (even if a free sample) has been slated by me, but that's life. It's a useless, made up, rubbish product. Would you prefer people to not say anything and people to waste their time (and potentially money)? Just being free doesn't prevent something from being bad, especially when consequential damage from it can be massive.


Good Lord, I went to post and in the meantime here you are again, wasting even MORE of our time by causing us to read an even longer and yet more useless comment!!! You still have not bothered to elaborate on WHY this stuff is "rubbish", and therefore I am beginning to suspect you may not know what you are talking about.
#8
Think about it logically, if the product was as fantastic as you are lead to believe, why the hell haven't the big fuel producers bought out this ****** little, tin-pot, joke of a company and put this stuff in their fuel all the time??

Anything with the the 'green' label on it is enough to fool most of the sheep in this country. Buy this and you will save the World, honestly.
#9
Chia
There is absolutely no point in you coming along and posting statements like this unless you are also willing to share with us why/how you "know" this to be true.

Thanks for posting, button_moon.


The vast majority of the site proves nothing, it simply talks about using calcium in a suspension, what absolute rubbish from a chemistry/chemical engineering point of view, but not very easy to "argue against" since it all sounds very good. As somebody with experience in reviewing products like this, you never ever take their word for it when they talk about magic allowing their additive to do x and y. I can tell you that their description of it is rubbish and pie in the sky, but that is one person's word against another. I could write a site saying I had developed a new method to produce gold from water, through using electrodal disturbance of xenon rays; it doesnt mean I have.

However, the actual proof that it is rubbish is on their testing page. They were foolish enough to state:

Baseline ECOPLUS Treated
HC 44 ppm HC 0 ppm
CO 9.6% CO 7.6%
CO2 1.2% CO2 1%
O2 9.2% O2 10.5%
NOx 66 ppm NOx 33 ppm


Through some magic wonders they have managed to burn more HCs, whilst producing lower levels of CO and CO2. Sadly that is impossible with an internal combustion engine; which is based upon:

HC + O2 --> CO2 (or CO) + H2O

It is even emitting more O2 than the baseline, fantastic that, considering you're burning more HCs. It's science mumbo-jumbo, it's fundamentally wrong. It shows they don't have a clue what they are talking about.

NOx has halved, which again is rubbish, but I won't go into why, the above statement is justification enough.

At least redex actually achieves something, this is nothing. I just hope nobody gets the free sample and puts it into their engine "because it is free" - who knows what it really is other than a simple oil-based mixture.

Finally, if there was a cheap additive that added 20% to your economy, reduced emissions whilst magically burning more, the oil refiners would be murdering/fighting/killing to get hold of it, patent it and make a super fuel.
#10
Chia
Good Lord, I went to post and in the meantime here you are again, wasting even MORE of our time by causing us to read an even longer and yet more useless comment!!! You still have not bothered to elaborate on WHY this stuff is "rubbish", and therefore I am beginning to suspect you may not know what you are talking about.


Suspect all you like, I think it is clear to anybody using a bit of common sense that this product is not a product worth having, free or otherwise. I know it is unfortunate, but it is true. You can see in my above post a basic breakdown of why it is a non-starter, just like the hundreds of products that it follows which promise x and y and deliver zero.

You are free to take a free sample, but I strongly suggest that people think twice before putting this anywhere near their engine. I won't sugar coat it; the product is a con and the last thing I will do is let it be not be reported as such based on my qualifications and experience. I would expect anybody else to do the same if items come up in their field of interest.
#11
Towelie
Think about it logically, if the product was as fantastic as you are lead to believe, why the hell haven't the big fuel producers bought out this ****** little, tin-pot, joke of a company and put this stuff in their fuel all the time??

Anything with the the 'green' label on it is enough to fool most of the sheep in this country. Buy this and you will save the World, honestly.


Because then they would lose 10% of their profits!
I'm guessing they would be more likely to just buy it and just not use it, removing the threat from the market.
#12
tazxxx
Because then they would lose 10% of their profits!
I'm guessing they would be more likely to just buy it and just not use it, removing the threat from the market.


The industry does not work like that, they would all offer millions for it, one would get it and then be able to charge a premium for fuel containing it. Contrary to popular belief, there is enough competition in the fuels market to mean that refiners don't buy products to bury. They buy products to patent and sell.
#13
Well i say, if it's free get it and use it at your own risk.

I think that all of you that slated the poster should lay off them, they found a deal, if it is not to your liking then fine, but to slate them is just a lame school age thing to do.
#14
Blimey handbags at dawn!
I see the "forum police" are out again. Isn't it up to the individual who reads this post to decide if they want to put this in their car or not?
Are the cold voters the ones who vote hot free samples of face creams that are about as much use as this additive probably is? hmmmmm
#15
I welcome all the comments on here and it has made me change my mind about ordering a sample.
I just wish pghstochaj had posted his/her reasoning first. Would have been the friendlier thing to do.
What I do admire is that someone has voted a freebie cold and said the reasons why, eventually.
It seems it is all too common to see a freebie go cold and no-one has any idea why.
Thanks to the OP for posting this, you weren't to know if it is any good or not, and thanks to pghstochaj for posting on something he/she clearly has knowledge of. :thumbsup:
#16
SoM^VipeR
Well i say, if it's free get it and use it at your own risk.

I think that all of you that slated the poster should lay off them, they found a deal, if it is not to your liking then fine, but to slate them is just a lame school age thing to do.


Have not slated them, not even the deal, just the product.
1 Like #17
Jumpingphil
I welcome all the comments on here and it has made me change my mind about ordering a sample.
I just wish pghstochaj had posted his/her reasoning first. Would have been the friendlier thing to do.
What I do admire is that someone has voted a freebie cold and said the reasons why, eventually.
It seems it is all too common to see a freebie go cold and no-one has any idea why.
Thanks to the OP for posting this, you weren't to know if it is any good or not, and thanks to pghstochaj for posting on something he/she clearly has knowledge of. :thumbsup:


Perhaps you are right, I should have justified my comments first. The thing is I work in an industry that wouldn't even give this the time of day, so a comment of "this is rubbish, forget it" would be all that was necessary. Of course I forgot that people here don't know me or my background, so why should anybody have listened.

I don't even know if I have voted yet. I also don't know that much about face creams, but if I did and a useless, potentially dangerous cream, came up, I would also make my feelings very clear. Nothing about forum police or such rubbish, it's about people not using or buying products which are just a con. Too much **** gets sold as it is.

I do also find it quite funny that the only review of the product is from a company along the lines of "[email protected]". Their portfolio includes this product's website as their first reference. LOL.
#18
I didn't vote on this either yet.
I liked the idea, but your comments ( quite rightly ) put me off.
If you go to where the voting buttons are and they are dim, then you have voted already. If they are still bright, then you haven't. :thumbsup:
#19
pghstochaj
The industry does not work like that, they would all offer millions for it, one would get it and then be able to charge a premium for fuel containing it. Contrary to popular belief, there is enough competition in the fuels market to mean that refiners don't buy products to bury. They buy products to patent and sell.

ahem, so If i was to engineer an engine that ran on hydrogen extracted from a tank of tap water in the boot, they'd not consider buying & burying that then????
#20
andiejn
ahem, so If i was to engineer an engine that ran on hydrogen extracted from a tank of tap water in the boot, they'd not consider buying & burying that then????


No, they would buy it, patent it (if not already done) and make plenty of money out of. The fact is that such technology already exists.
1 Like #21
pghstochaj
Perhaps you are right, I should have justified my comments first. The thing is I work in an industry that wouldn't even give this the time of day, so a comment of "this is rubbish, forget it" would be all that was necessary. Of course I forgot that people here don't know me or my background, so why should anybody have listened.


Fair enough - thanks for coming back to post your reasons (which turned out to be good). Very rare on these forums!!!
#22
Neither here nor there for the science, will this stuff ever arrive seeing as the website seems to be an english/japanese hybrid, talking of Yen etc?
#23
damn.....you mean to say that all those face creams to make me look younger really dont work?....oh my god now i know why i still look so old....I always blamed my kids for being an antidote to the face creams :oops:
#24
pghstochaj
No, they would buy it, patent it (if not already done) and make plenty of money out of. The fact is that such technology already exists.


yeah. and has done since the 1970s.
er...when it was bought and buried by the oil companies.:?
#25
heada
yeah. and has done since the 1970s.
er...when it was bought and buried by the oil companies.:?


Not at all; you can buy a toy car which uses the same technology. The concept is the same as any other hydrogen fueled technology - with the problem being separating the H from the O2 in water. It takes a lot of energy. It is the same technology you see being pushed forward as part of the hydrogen future. It is nothing more nor nothing special.
#26
pghstochaj
No, they would buy it, patent it (if not already done) and make plenty of money out of. The fact is that such technology already exists.



exactly, has doen for a few decades and shows no sign of being brought to market.

bought out and BURIED.

hardly in shell's interest to bring to market is it?
#27
andiejn
exactly, has doen for a few decades and shows no sign of being brought to market.

bought out and BURIED.

hardly in shell's interest to bring to market is it?


Not true. Firstly, it would be, since they would patent the idea and be the only company to provide it, thus wiping out any competition. Secondly, the technology exists in the form of fuel cells etc. I don't quite understand what you are saying has been buired, feel free to elaborate.
#28
pghstochaj
Not true. Firstly, it would be, since they would patent the idea and be the only company to provide it, thus wiping out any competition. Secondly, the technology exists in the form of fuel cells etc. I don't quite understand what you are saying has been buired, feel free to elaborate.

the fact that such technology would mean you could run your car on tap water, so the would never sell any petrol / diesel again.

the manufacture would end up in the hands of everycar manufacture under licence, much like the combustion engine is now made by everyone, and many have tried with the rotary. but for an oil company, vehicles running on water would be a majot business killer.

fuel cells are being developed, yes, thought it's a technology that is taking it's time, the cynic may suggest this is down to oil companies not wanting this in just yet as they've still got a lot of oil to sell.
#29
andiejn
the fact that such technology would mean you could run your car on tap water, so the would never sell any petrol / diesel again.

the manufacture would end up in the hands of everycar manufacture under licence, much like the combustion engine is now made by everyone, and many have tried with the rotary. but for an oil company, vehicles running on water would be a majot business killer.

fuel cells are being developed, yes, thought it's a technology that is taking it's time, the cynic may suggest this is down to oil companies not wanting this in just yet as they've still got a lot of oil to sell.


It doesn't mean you can run your car on tap water, energy still has to come from somewhere to separate the H2 and O, that's the only reason why it is not yet going anywhere, because the energy would still be provided by fossil fuels.

It would not be a major business killer to the one company who patented the technology, if it was oh so wonderful. Sadly it's not, basic thermodynamics stops it being.
#30
Wouldn't risk ruining my engine with this s**t! Voted cold
banned#31
Got mine today, thanks
#32
Well I would want to (even if I could) contradict the chemists here who reckon theres nowt it this stuff to do any good for mpg but will mention how smoother the engines are in my Jag, Ranger and wifes Fiesta (all diesel) with its use,no doubt due to its advertised extra lubricity.
OK for nowt !:thumbsup:

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