[jah128]

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=184070
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/18433...this-is-worth/


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[sassie]

it is pretty obvious what is going on bet seems best to keep your thoughts to yourself

[ODB_69]

There a good thing, unless its being abused. Most might not really know what price to sell for, but they do seem to turn into an auction straight away....

One for a 60gb PS3 yesterday...how much? 1st comment....I'll give you £250 for it.....that needs to be stopped. That should have to be a seperate thread, but they will just start using PM to do it.....

so its 50/50 really but I see your point

[jah128]

Agreed there are circumstances where someone may not know the rough price but surely for most things people can do a bit of their own research (look at what they have sold for on ebay etc). Invariably the people who make threads like this do want to sell the item and already have any idea of what they would accept.

In the two cases above its fairly obvious the OPs are looking for offers (presumably by PM) including consideration of the pirated games - but what they are doing is not against the rules at the moment (unless I'm mistaken?).

[sassie]

it really doesnt matter what rules are put in place, within days, sometimes hours they have found a way round them, whilst there are members that dont mind how they get something there will be the members that dont care, and sadly its usually well established members that behave like this

[ODB_69]

jah128:
Agreed there are circumstances where someone may not know the rough price but surely for most things people can do a bit of their own research (look at what they have sold for on ebay etc). Invariably the people who make threads like this do want to sell the item and already have any idea of what they would accept.

In the two cases above its fairly obvious the OPs are looking for offers (presumably by PM) including consideration of the pirated games - but what they are doing is not against the rules at the moment (unless I'm mistaken?).

Is it against rules to trade by PM or just advised against though?

[guerilla]

i did it cause i didn't have clue what to sell for, didn't get much help though so its still sitting here not getting used

[jah128]

Against the rules to do a FS/FT forum trade via PM.

That doesn't really apply to misc forum though - and after all nobody will know if a trade has taken place in these cases.

guerilla - I guess the real concern is like the examples above where people are clearly trying to sell pirated stuff etc, which is unfortunately quite frequent at the moment.

[ODB_69]

yeah, I'm seeing an increase too in the amount of 'back up' software available with these consoles......
Oh I have these....but I won't say I'm selling them....then its ok......

No it isn't...we know what your saying!

[jah128]

I'll be honest - I'm not really sure what the best solution is - banning all 'price-check' threads altogether does seem a bit harsh (but it would solve the problem), creating a special set of rules for such threads would over-complicate the already lengthy and impenetrable site rules even further, but allowing things to continue as they are is inviting more and more of these threads (and almost certainly illegal activity...)

[ODB_69]

jah128:
I'll be honest - I'm not really sure what the best solution is - banning all 'price-check' threads altogether does seem a bit harsh (but it would solve the problem), creating a special set of rules for such threads would over-complicate the already lengthy and impenetrable site rules even further, but allowing things to continue as they are is inviting more and more of these threads (and almost certainly illegal activity...)

agreed, without Mods viewing PM's or a ban on PM's not a lot they can do right now, but pretty sure they must have noticed by now and be coming up with something

[DudeyGeeza]

lol,

let me get this right... users are exploiting a loophole in the rules that doesnt specify trading via pm in the misc forum??

Rules should carry accross forums and should be expected as the site "norm". Not looked at as specific to the FS/FT forum, maybe a wording change to the rules is needed as this really could open up big issues for scammers. Hence why the FS/FT forum was put in place and enforced with such rules!..

[jah128]

DudeyGeeza:
lol,

let me get this right... users are exploiting a loophole in the rules that doesnt specify trading in via pm in the misc forum??

Rules should carry accross forums and should be expected as the site "norm". Not looked at as specific to the FS/FT forum, maybe a wording change to the rules is needed as this really could open up big issues for scammers. Hence why the FS/FT forum was put in place and enforced with such rules!..

Hard to say that trading has definately been done via pm, just that these sort of threads certainly would encourage it...

[ODB_69]

jah128:
Hard to say that trading has definately been done via pm, just that these sort of threads certainly would encourage it...

100K+ users......DEFINITELY has been done!