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banned9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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banned9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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#1
I think it goes without saying...unless you want to pay for the BBC to keep showing us all their repeats and Adverts on their satellite channels.
#2
Huh? Whats all this about?
#3
What's the point in this post?
I think the License has fee has another 4 years to run.
#4
It makes no difference what people think. People have been saying the following for ages ...

1- Scrap the licence fee in favour of advertising, so that anyone who chooses not to watch the BBC doesn't have to pay for it regardless.
2- Scrap the Road Tax disc in favour of additional fuel tax, penalising the 50000m per annum motorist rather than little old ladies and their Metros.

It won't happen because we don't get a say. The state just continues to do what it chooses to do, no matter what is fairest.
#5
Nobody in the UK actually has a " license ", many have a licence.:roll:
#6
i say get rid if people have cable why pay twice i wouldn't pay but im too scared of getting caught, i onlt watch eastenders on bbc 1 and thats it theres never anything decent on the bbc channels anyway
#7
Maybe I am in the minority here but I say keep the licence fee!

There are several programmes each year that convince me that the unique way this broadcaster is funded is completely worth it.To name just a few from the top of my head.....Life on Mars,Tribe,Planet Earth,Spooks,Hustle.

Would programmes such as Little Britain get the go ahead if it were not for the licence fee(started on BBC3)....I am not sure they would.To be able to listen to the radio be it pop,rock,alternative,classical or easygoing music,chat,plays,political discussion,local issues sport etc and not have to be interrupted by annoying advert jingles for 5 minutes at a time!

These things are worth £3 a week to me anyways.
#8
I'm for the license fee :)

However, £135 / year is a rip-off to pay for the rather 'over crowded' work force and losss-making ventures.
#9
edi
I'm for the license fee :)

However, £135 / year is a rip-off to pay for the rather 'over crowded' work force and losss-making ventures.


Agreed :thumbsup: They should also spend less cash on the usual rubbish programming and movies and more on quality stuff like Life on Mars and Jekyll
#10
lumoruk
I do forget which is which but MS Word spell check said it was fine, even when I changed it to UK dictionary ;-)


Fair enough, but MS is American:giggle: , the correct English(UK) spelling is Licence.
#11
muckypup
Maybe I am in the minority here but I say keep the licence fee!




You are not alone, I agree with your comments, it is strange that people are happy to pay Sky or Virgin a fortune for the mainly drivel that they churn out, yet moan about the Licence Fee.
#12
Two words - Top Gear
#13
If other channels can survive without charging, why not the BBC?
#14
I like the licence fee system in principal but I wish they'd stop dumbing down everything so much and I really wish the money wasn't wasted on lowest common denominator **** like Eastenders.
#15
cuzzy
If other channels can survive without charging, why not the BBC?

'Other' Channels have Commercials to pay for the programmes etc, BBC don't 'do' Commercials, so the money must come from somewhere.
#16
megalomaniac
I like the licence fee system in principal but I wish they'd stop dumbing down everything so much and I really wish the money wasn't wasted on lowest common denominator **** like Eastenders.

I agree......but there are still plenty of quality programmes put out.

Without the licence fee we could end up with another ITV1 channel,lowest common denominator does not begin to describe how bad this station has become over the years.

Oh for the days when they produced things like Brideshead Revisited.....and when was the last time they produced any decent comedy of note?
Rising Damp is the last one I can think of and I was really young when that came out!!!
#17
dinosteveus
'Other' Channels have Commercials to pay for the programmes etc, BBC don't 'do' Commercials, so the money must come from somewhere.


Perhaps they should also start advertising?
#18
muckypup
Maybe I am in the minority here but I say keep the licence fee!

There are several programmes each year that convince me that the unique way this broadcaster is funded is completely worth it.To name just a few from the top of my head.....Life on Mars,Tribe,Planet Earth,Spooks,Hustle.

Would programmes such as Little Britain get the go ahead if it were not for the licence fee(started on BBC3)....I am not sure they would.To be able to listen to the radio be it pop,rock,alternative,classical or easygoing music,chat,plays,political discussion,local issues sport etc and not have to be interrupted by annoying advert jingles for 5 minutes at a time!

These things are worth £3 a week to me anyways.


:thumbsup:


IMO the BBC should be left as it is. It has produced a great deal of excellent programmes over the years that might not ever have seen the light of day if it hadn't been for the BBC. I'm not saying it's perfect but scrapping it and turning it into ITV1 and ITV2 isn't the way to go.

Aside from the excellent programmes it has funded I have an unnatural hatred of adverts. Apart from the odd classis advert (latest one being the dairy milk / gorilla advert) they are not only a pain in the ass but they also tend to come on 50 decibels higher than the TV programmes! Yelling a products credentials must be scientifically proven to make you more likely to buy it. :giggle:
#19
cuzzy
Perhaps they should also start advertising?


Heaven forbid, the adverts are the curse of other channels.
#20
Deal4Me
Two words - Top Gear

One word - DAVE:thumbsup:

I don't watch BBC (apart from TG which I always miss so get from P2P). So for me it's NOT worth the licence fee. With the push being more and more onto pay to view services like cable/sat and a lot more choice on freeview, it really is starting to be a rip off. Back when we had 3 channels, fine I can see the point but now? No. Let them compete in an open market just like all the other broadcasting companies. If they produce **** (as they do), nobody watches and they make no money. I don't see why I or anybody else should subsidise a service we don't need/use:thumbsup:
#21
lumoruk
You can get Top Gear from iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer I don't know if they're still allowing sign ups.

Bet it's not as good quality as 'release' versions though:whistling:

If the BBC want money they should run a subs service, including website. As it is I think they're just lazy, had it good for too long.....

This is beginning to sound like a postie strike post now :lol:

~Just to add, I can't get BBC channels on Freeview and my terrestrial sig on BBC is **** as well. Funny how I can get all the shopping channels PERFECTLY though....
banned#22
I think they should make the BBC for the BBC license payers only. Anyone from all over the world can access their programing world wide as long as they have an internet connection. It aint a charity
#23
Inactive
You are not alone, I agree with your comments, it is strange that people are happy to pay Sky or Virgin a fortune for the mainly drivel that they churn out, yet moan about the Licence Fee.


The difference is, Sky/Virgin is a choice, you don't NEED to get it, you can get freeview, which is a one off payment with many channels that are more entertaining than the BBC anyway and it would cover less than 6 months of a TV licence.

Sky/Virgin and freeview is all a choice, none of these options are stating that if you don't get there service, there is a maximum penalty of £1000 (or whatever it is now) or even inprisonment.
#24
Shengis


~Just to add, I can't get BBC channels on Freeview and my terrestrial sig on BBC is **** as well. Funny how I can get all the shopping channels PERFECTLY though....



Buy a decent TV Aerial.:)
#25
Inactive
Buy a decent TV Aerial.:)

I did. Because I thought it was my arial at fault I bought an expensive 'digital' one. Guess what, it was worse than the original:roll: I dare say things will improve when terestrial stops broadcasting and they boost the digital signal, but as I live in the SE that won't be hapenning till 2012. So in effect I will get (maybe) a decent service AFTER everybody else but still be expected to pay for something I can't get in the meantime.

By the way I only live about 4 miles from the Bluebell Hill transmitter. So in theory should get a good sig. The problem is its all hills around here so most of the sig gets blocked.
#26
Is it true that if you don't watch any BBC channels, you don't have to pay TV licence?

I heard this ages ago but we never ever watch it.
#27
realfriendlyman
Is it true that if you don't watch any BBC channels, you don't have to pay TV licence?

I heard this ages ago but we never ever watch it.



I remember hearing something about a company making TV's that were programmed so as not to be able to show BBC1/2 so that people could legally refuse to pay their TV licence but whether it took off or not I don't know.
#28
Carterman
I remember hearing something about a company making TV's that were programmed so as not to be able to show BBC1/2 so that people could legally refuse to pay their TV licence but whether it took off or not I don't know.

I didn't have a TV for a few years, used to invite the inspectors in to check. I bought a COMPUTER from tescos and a month later I get a TV Licence demand through the post because I 'may' have a way of viewing tv broadcasts....
#29
lumoruk
What did you do with it? I phoned them last time I bought a graphics card??? but I don't care to ring their 0870 number again this time after buying a USB digitv card

Threw it in the bin and waited for another inspector to call. Unless they can actually view a working/usable TV they can't do anything. So in theory, if you disabled the tuner you should be ok BUT they covered that as well by needing a licence for VHS/DVD recorders. Grrrrr :lol:
#30
Shengis
I didn't have a TV for a few years, used to invite the inspectors in to check. I bought a COMPUTER from tescos and a month later I get a TV Licence demand through the post because I 'may' have a way of viewing tv broadcasts....


Yeah they are very quick with computers these days because so much content can be viewed online - curiously if it is a laptop they cannot make you buy a licence even if you watch TV on it because it runs on batteries. :giggle: Buy a laptop and sit and watch TV while the inspector checks your house :thumbsup:

Hmm actually I may be wrong there :whistling: so don't do that - I think I'm getting mixed up on the rules somewhere here ....
#31
Carterman
Yeah they are very quick with computers these days because so much content can be viewed online - curiously if it is a laptop they cannot make you buy a licence even if you watch TV on it because it runs on batteries. :giggle: Buy a laptop and sit and watch TV while the inspector checks your house :thumbsup:

Hmm actually I may be wrong there :whistling: so don't do that - I think I'm getting mixed up on the rules somewhere here ....

I was just going to say, is that true or urban myth :lol:

From my own understanding, ANYTHING that is capable of receiving 'broadcast' tv is liable for a licence, whether it be TV card, set, recorder etc. So if you modified your tv to only use scart etc and only had a video/dvd player it 'may' be outside their scope to prosecute. Not sure though.
#32
Shengis
I was just going to say, is that true or urban myth :lol:

From my own understanding, ANYTHING that is capable of receiving 'broadcast' tv is liable for a licence, whether it be TV card, set, recorder etc. So if you modified your tv to only use scart etc and only had a video/dvd player it 'may' be outside their scope to prosecute. Not sure though.



Yes this is now essentially the case. There used to be some loopholes where equipment that was run on batteries wouldn't require a TV licence but this has changed. As far as I can see they have now changed these rules so that any piece of equipment used to watch TV stations requires you to hold a TV licence - these include TV, Video, DVD recorder, Computer (including laptop) and even mobile phones with internet/video capabilities.


If you have equipment and it isn't used at any time to watch TV stations you can effectively refuse to pay - even if it's a TV and you only use it to play video games.


If you have a licence for your home you are fine watching TV via any method but if you don't and are caught viewing TV - even if it's a 1 minute clip on your phone, you can be prosecuted. :roll:
#33
And that's my main gripe. With the advent of freeview and the growing number of channels I don't need to watch the BBC channels. Only problem is even if I delete the BBC channels from the box I still risk prosecution because I possess a box that is 'capable' of receiving broadcast tv. Theres no escaping 'the man' :lol:
#34
Shengis
And that's my main gripe. With the advent of freeview and the growing number of channels I don't need to watch the BBC channels. Only problem is even if I delete the BBC channels from the box I still risk prosecution because I possess a box that is 'capable' of receiving broadcast tv. Theres no escaping 'the man' :lol:



Having the option to 'opt out' of paying if you can prove that you don't receive BBC broadcasts is fine and I would gladly vote yes to that if a poll was stuck up for it. I am just against changing the way that the BBC is funded as I don't want or need ITV1/2. ITV/C4 show enough mainstream drivel as it is and with a 3-5 minute advert break every 15 minutes it's annoying watching the few good programmes that they manage to produce.
#35

[B]What if I only use a TV to watch videos/DVDs/as a monitor for my games console? Do I still need a licence?

You need to notify us in writing that this is the case and one of our Enforcement Officers may need to visit you to confirm that you do not need a licence. Please write to us including your name, address and the reason you believe that you don't need a licence at:

TV Licensing
Bristol
BS98 1TL
[/B]


So, some people might be able to get away ;-)
#36
cheers for finding that Edi, thought so:thumbsup:
banned#37
edi
So, some people might be able to get away ;-)


However if you have sky, virgin or freeview you pay....right?
#38
Carterman
If you have equipment and it isn't used at any time to watch TV stations you can effectively refuse to pay - even if it's a TV and you only use it to play video games.

If you have a licence for your home you are fine watching TV via any method but if you don't and are caught viewing TV - even if it's a 1 minute clip on your phone, you can be prosecuted. :roll:


Isn't this basically what Edi has posted - you can have the equipment if you state that at no time will it be used to watch TV stations? :p
#39
I think its a rip off for what they show.. a load of rubbish.
#40
I like the BBC for the News, Comedy, Horizon (which is getting a little Tabloid these days) and most of the 45 minute episode series they produce. Everything else is usually garbage like Eastenders and River City

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