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banned6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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banned6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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banned#1
Have just sent the mods a question as i can probably stop my payment if needed
#2
cry?.
banned#3
Worst case scenario, chalk it up to experience.

Thats why i only put £10 up front, not gonna lose too much sleep if it dont turn up
#4
People get excited when they see a bargain!
banned#5
Looks like he was a multi, wonder who his other username is
#6
So why the ban? I'm guessing it was a multi account.
#7
lottysdad08
Have just sent the mods a question as i can probably stop my payment if needed


hope you get sorted mate been scammed on here was only £15 but still £15 is £15 now its post 1st from people with no feedback tho thats not to say someone with decent feedback couldnt do the same
#8
also just proves my arguement pictures with usernames offer NO protection
banned#9
lottysdad08
Looks like he was a multi, wonder who his other username is


this is what pees me off when a multi is banned, it should be made common knowledge
banned#10
sassie
this is what pees me off when a multi is banned, it should be made common knowledge


Would be very interesting to know, but we will just get quoted data protection.

For all we know it could be that their OH has an account on here, that happened to my OH when she set up a seperate account.
The mods would have no doubt ben looking closely at that trade and if the IP's flagged up a multi that would be curtains
banned#11
lottysdad08
Would be very interesting to know, but we will just get quoted data protection.


havent come up with anything yet, but will keep looking
#12
ok i'm out due to you having zero feedback and an account made today but know how to post pics properly ect .


i thought that was a very good deduction columbo


i was very impressed
[mod]#13
lottysdad08, if you got contact details as recommended you should still be able to get in touch with them.

If you didn't Admin can forward an email on your behalf via the 'Contact Us' link but we can't advise enough the importance of obtaining these details before sending any form of payment.

FS/FT - Trade safe! Follow these guidelines!

Caveat Emptor. Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It's in your best interest to check out these details yourself. This forum is equivalent to a newspaper's classified section, HotUKDeals is not responsible for and does not vouch for any listings or sales/trades in this forum! Use your head, follow the guidelines, evaluate the risk and make your own decision.


In many cases not banning an id still wouldn't guarantee a completed sale, but banning certain ids protects other members & stops further off thread unlisted PM dealing.

We don't give out member info as a matter of policy.
#14
sassie
this is what pees me off when a multi is banned, it should be made common knowledge


+1
banned#15
sigma
lottysdad08, if you got contact details as recommended you should still be able to get in touch with them.

If you didn't Admin can forward an email on your behalf via the 'Contact Us' link but we can't advise enough the importance of obtaining these details before sending any form of payment.

FS/FT - Trade safe! Follow these guidelines!



In many cases not banning an id still wouldn't guarantee a completed sale, [B]but banning certain ids protects other members & stops further off thread unlisted PM dealing.



We don't give out member info as a matter of policy.[/B]



but you allow the other id to continue trading
banned#16
bykergrove
can you atleast tell us if the other user id is banned also?


The original user would have only received an infraction / suspension.
#17
We don't give out member info as a matter of policy.

maybe you should, might stop people making up multis if it comes up who else they are on here, cant see why you dont do it tbh

-obviously not you personally signma
#18
jamstaruk1972
ok i'm out due to you having zero feedback and an account made today but know how to post pics properly ect .


i thought that was a very good deduction columbo


i was very impressed


Not sure about that, if you know how to use {img} tags then surely you know :?:
banned 1 Like #19
sancho1983
Not sure about that, if you know how to use {img} tags then surely you know :?:


Some people just try to look smug,

Luckily i too play a cute game and have had no problem cancelling the payment as i set it to come out of my bank tomorrow lunchtime.
[mod]#20
bykergrove
can you atleast tell us if the other user id is banned also?


sassie
but you allow the other id to continue trading


No one has said that any other linked id is currently trading.

ilovepink
We don't give out member info as a matter of policy.

maybe you should, might stop people making up multis if it comes up who else they are on here, cant see why you dont do it tbh

-obviously not you personally signma


The problem is, and I hope you can appreciate this, in general if someone wants to scam a forum, the level at which they cover their tracks will match the requirement of a forum. So if ids are linked then a new id will take more care to ensure that they aren't linked & a newbie scammer is born - this is just a general observation from sales threads in many forums, but giving out info about passed ids won't help with a current problem.

And if members would just obtain full contact details then whether the id was active or not they could still contact the other person - if a member is reluctant to give out said details then this should ring alarm bells.
#21
bykergrove
err look at his thread. does it look like a brand new user to you? bit to slick for my liking.

you should have bought the HDD :lol:


I am looking for one actually :)
banned#22
and nobody has said they arent
#23
lottysdad08
Worst case scenario, chalk it up to experience.

Thats why i only put £10 up front, not gonna lose too much sleep if it dont turn up


would you like me to lend you a tenner?:-D
banned#24
sigma
No one has said that any other linked id is currently trading.



The problem is, and I hope you can appreciate this, in general if someone wants to scam a forum, the level at which they cover their tracks will match the requirement of a forum. So if ids are linked then a new id will take more care to ensure that they aren't linked & a newbie scammer is born - this is just a general observation from sales threads in many forums, but giving out info about passed ids won't help with a current problem.

And if members would just obtain full contact details then whether the id was active or not they could still contact the other person - if a member is reluctant to give out said details then this should ring alarm bells.


If people knew the user id of the other account, they could at least see if that person were reliable, they may have been a great trader, but banned for trolling or something.
banned 1 Like #25
bykergrove;8019493
can you atleast tell us if the other user id is banned also?


It's not banned at present, there are outstanding trade disputes.


sassie;8019505
but you allow the other id to continue trading


We will only permit the member to use the original account. We can't stop the creation of new accounts without compromising the sites accessibility.

lottysdad08;8019527
The original user would have only received an infraction / suspension.


Yes, they would have received an infraction and a restriction on FS/FT activities until outstanding trades resolved. However thst only applies to the original ID.


ilovepink;8019535
We don't give out member info as a matter of policy.

maybe you should, might stop people making up multis if it comes up who else they are on here, cant see why you dont do it tbh

-obviously not you personally signma



I understand the frustration, much more so if it's an existing member who's created a multi and received a bad trading infraction/feedback on the 2nd account, leaving the first one untarnished. We are looking at options to highlight this. Whilst we might not be able to publish the linked accounts, we may be able to state that the original feedback is marked as "incomplete/irregular". This may alert any future buyer that the original members feedback is not quite what it seems.

bykergrove;8019565
or the user might have been previously banned from FS/FT which is what i want to know.


As above, the original id has a restriction on FS/FT until previous trades resolved. There have been a few other accounts created by this member. As soon as we are aware it's an instant lockdown.

sassie;8019636
and nobody has said they arent


The account is technically alive, but OP appears to want to start with a fresh trading history by wiping the slate clean and hiding reference to previous negs.

colinsunderland;8019975
If people knew the user id of the other account, they could at least see if that person were reliable, they may have been a great trader, but banned for trolling or something.


We'll ban multi's as soon as they are discovered. All I can ask is that members fully exchange and verify details as per the FS/FT rules and always follow the trading advice. If any member fails to do this, then they must accept that there is potentially more risk to the transaction.


FS/FT - Trade safe! Follow these guidelines!

Please be advised, all buyers and sellers should satisfy themselves that either party is genuine by providing and verifying the following via PM to each other and to Admin or a Moderator if they wish to keep a record:[LIST=1]
[*]Landline telephone number Make a CALL to check out the area code and number are correct too!
[*]Name and address including postcode
[*]Valid e-mail address [no disposable addresses such as @gmail or @yahoo for example].
[*]Using PayPal then check out eBay feedback if there is any and make a small payment to and from each other to validate the PayPal e-mail address.
[*]If possible, collect and pay for items in person
[*]Only buy from Verified PayPal Members if possible.[/LIST]Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It's in your best interest to check out these details yourself.

Follow the above at all times, whilst you might not be able to complete a sale, any that you do, will stand a higher chance of being completed successfully.
banned#26
** Update. The original account is now banned under the topping up procedure due to further multi creations.
banned#27
bykergrove
err look at his thread. does it look like a brand new user to you? bit to slick for my liking.

you should have bought the HDD :lol:


That's what I thought, how did they know to move straight to PM takes years for people to figure out all the rules in FS/FT
banned#28
lumoruk;8024377
That's what I thought, how did they know to move straight to PM takes years for people to figure out all the rules in FS/FT


Indeed, there are so many clues. Even the preferred method of asking the seller to send 1st (if new) may indeed be setting the perfect cover for a later transaction due to the seller appearing to have good feedback and sending 1st.

In all cases, the advice and rules should be followed. Anything less then recovery is so much more difficult.
#29
lottysdad08
Some people just try to look smug,

Luckily i too play a cute game and have had no problem cancelling the payment as i set it to come out of my bank tomorrow lunchtime.


aha tis good idea yah :thumbsup::thumbsup:
#30
if everyone paid a pound for insurance to the website then if this happens they could maybe be reimbursed?

only a suggestion:P i know ill now get hounded for sayin it ha
banned#31
cribert
if everyone paid a pound for insurance to the website then if this happens they could maybe be reimbursed?

only a suggestion:P i know ill now get hounded for sayin it ha


Too easy to take advantage of. Somebody could get a friend to join and 'sell' them high value item only for something to go wrong with deal then they claim money from HUKD and split the money between themselves
#32
Paddy Charlie
Too easy to take advantage of. Somebody could get a friend to join and 'sell' them high value item only for something to go wrong with deal then they claim money from HUKD and split the money between themselves


nice to see the way your brain works :p
banned#33
Simple really to follow the rules and get the other party's contact details,

i would withdraw from the sale if no details were given to me.

imo
#34
dj_urban
Simple really to follow the rules and get the other party's contact details,

i would withdraw from the sale if no details were given to me.

imo


Totally agree. A while back I bought a bag that I really wanted from a seller who had no feedback. She wasnt willing to send first - and being a typical female who really needed to have THAT bag I went to great lengths for her to prove her identity. I got her to email me copies of bills showing her name/address - including the invoice when she bought the bag. Also called her on her home and mobile number and we both made a small payment to each others paypal account. The bag cost - I think - £45, so was worth doing all that. The sale went through trouble free.

All of the above is "the rules" anyway.
banned#35
lottysdad08
Would be very interesting to know, but we will just get quoted data protection.

For all we know it could be that their OH has an account on here, that happened to my OH when she set up a seperate account.
The mods would have no doubt ben looking closely at that trade and if the IP's flagged up a multi that would be curtains


this is exactly what used to happen on the bad traders list, maybe before your time, but the list used to contain alias accounts
banned#36
sassie;8031141
this is exactly what used to happen on the bad traders list, maybe before your time, but the list used to contain alias accounts


It does beg the question though, "How many members have been scammed as a result of not following the FS/FT rules and trading advice in full?"

Would putting an additional layer assist ?

If so, what details could/would be publish, bearing in mind that we store so little (and unverified) information ?

What would be the criteria for adding to the Bad Traders List ?

What if we get it wrong ?

Any other thoughts ?

Regards
banned#37
aScottishBloke

It does beg the question though, "How many members have been scammed as a result of not following the FS/FT rules and trading advice in full?"

[COLOR="Blue"]totally agree on that one, always have, but it doesnt mean its ok to be scammed[/COLOR]
Would putting an additional layer assist ?
[COLOR="Blue"]
only one way to find out[/COLOR]
If so, what details could/would be publish, bearing in mind that we store so little (and unverified) information ?

[COLOR="Blue"]i just think if someone makes an alais account and its banned then it should be commom knowledge, it seems silly to allow an original account to continue without anu backlash from an alias account, i so remember the jr23456 or whatever their name was, and all the account they had to rip people off[/COLOR]
What would be the criteria for adding to the Bad Traders List ?

[COLOR="Blue"]the bad traders list was started and got rid of very quickly after, why? only the mods know the reasons behind that[/COLOR]
What if we get it wrong ?

[COLOR="Blue"]we all get things wrong, should never stop us trying[/COLOR]
Any other thoughts ?

[COLOR="Blue"]
loads, but been done a thousand times before[/COLOR]

Regards

[COLOR="Blue"]Regards, back at ya[/COLOR] ;-)
banned#38
pingusbrother
Luckily I never completed the transaction but I was very close to until I saw the user had been banned:thumbsup:


So luckily no-one lost any money this time, just goes to show how important it is to check the seller out, get details, double check and most importantly use common sense.


I once caught a seller out on a similar forum by getting his adress details and when i googled the postcode they gave it was totally different.
#39
pingusbrother
I can pass you on the details i recieved from the user Lottysdad08


Oops.. at first I read this as the user was Lottysdad...:oops:
banned#40
lottysdad08
Would be very interesting to know, but we will just get quoted data protection.

For all we know it could be that their OH has an account on here, that happened to my OH when she set up a seperate account.
The mods would have no doubt ben looking closely at that trade and if the IP's flagged up a multi that would be curtains


there was a multi that scammed someone a while back who was known by many members...shamefully no one admitted knowing them despite some knowing their addy

that multi is back on here too and though I reported at the time they were left too long and scammed

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