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banned6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
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#1
dcx_badass
I saw one today, couldn't see a use for it, too big for a phone in your pocket, too small to be practical as a netbook replacement.


I agree. I think they are trying to fill a niche market...Maybe they are trying to muscle in on the Archos mediaplayer market??!
banned#2
seems like a good form factor, and it will play flash too! maybe android will get a kick in the pants and keep moving forward

5 MP autofocus camera with dual LED flash seems good, along with 3.5 headphone
Integrated Google Maps with voice-activated search, turn-by-turn navigation, street and satellite views

cant find a mention of usb though or connect to computer via usb
looking like it might be the nail in the coffin for tomtom and the mp3 player to me
banned#3
jubbyme
seems like a good form factor, and it will play flash too! maybe android will get a kick in the pants and keep moving forward

5 MP autofocus camera with dual LED flash seems good, along with 3.5 headphone
Integrated Google Maps with voice-activated search, turn-by-turn navigation, street and satellite views

cant find a mention of usb though or connect to computer via usb
looking like it might be the nail in the coffin for tomtom and the mp3 player to me


Disagree. Google maps is nothing compared to a tomtom. They'll need to reduce their prices but a tomtom has the far better software for now anyway. How can a tablet replace an mp3 ? It's like saying a laptop will replace a tv. Not everyone wants/needs all the extra ffeatures that can come with a smart phone, tablet etc...
banned#4
I think they look pretty decent. Would like to have a play on one.
#5
master_chief
I think they look pretty decent. Would like to have a play on one.


pardon :p


from those vids it looks pretty cool, does it work as a phone as well? or just a small touch device?
banned#6
numptyj
pardon :p


[SIZE="7"]Would like to have a play on one.[/SIZE]
#7
master_chief
[SIZE="7"]Would like to have a play on one.[/SIZE]


ahh, thanks for clearing that up.
banned#8
numptyj
ahh, thanks for clearing that up.


I'll let you do the clearing up :thumbsup:
banned#9
ryman1000
Disagree. Google maps is nothing compared to a tomtom. They'll need to reduce their prices but a tomtom has the far better software for now anyway. How can a tablet replace an mp3 ? It's like saying a laptop will replace a tv. Not everyone wants/needs all the extra ffeatures that can come with a smart phone, tablet etc...


I agree right now the tomtom software IS the best of the bunch ( i own a tomtom!) but i suppose their future is to license rather than sell devices, as far as mp3, people also want their mp3 to do video, but for the low end mp3 even cheap cell phones take microsd and do mp3s well now

I think the best form factor has to be found out by trial, the ipad? is it too big? is this dell streak too big for a phone? its a question that can only be answered by selling various devices and waiting for a couple of generations, and thats apart from android itself which needs a decent device to inspire it

we are certainly in interesting times as to what is the best size, how many devices do we need, after all they are all just flash memory, a screen and a processor, how many devices do we need in one or how many do we need that are separate
banned#10
jubbyme
I agree right now the tomtom software IS the best of the bunch ( i own a tomtom!) but i suppose their future is to license rather than sell devices, as far as mp3, people also want their mp3 to do video, but for the low end mp3 even cheap cell phones take microsd and do mp3s well now

I think the best form factor has to be found out by trial, the ipad? is it too big? is this dell streak too big for a phone? its a question that can only be answered by selling various devices and waiting for a couple of generations, and thats apart from android itself which needs a decent device to inspire it


I don't think you'll find a general best form factor for these devices. The ones you've listed, while technically the are similar devices, are all different enough to be able to give consumers the choice of the best one that suits their needs.
banned#11
master_chief
I don't think you'll find a general best form factor for these devices. The ones you've listed, while technically the are similar devices, are all different enough to be able to give consumers the choice of the best one that suits their needs.


that is true, after all something the size of a phone can never be your general purpose computer, for your personal movie device cell phone size is also too small

i guess mp3, cell phone and satnav(tomtom type for personal or car use) can and will fit in the pocket, so this dell streak will be a medium device between a pc/laptop and a cell phone, but personally im not sure people want to carry around a 3rd device or where it fits into lifestyles if you think of it in that way

anyway, im confused, i dont know what i want either!
even the laptop isnt sure where it is between 10 and 17 inches, im sure all cell phones will be like iphones soon enough, so what are everyones thoughts on form factors?
banned#12
jubbyme
that is true, after all something the size of a phone can never be your general purpose computer, for your personal movie device cell phone size is also too small

i guess mp3, cell phone and satnav(tomtom type for personal or car use) can and will fit in the pocket, so this dell streak will be a medium device between a pc/laptop and a cell phone, but personally im not sure people want to carry around a 3rd device or where it fits into lifestyles if you think of it in that way

anyway, im confused, i dont know what i want either!
even the laptop isnt sure where it is between 10 and 17 inches, im sure all cell phones will be like iphones soon enough, so what are everyones thoughts on form factors?


Any form factor that incorporates a phone needs to allow for use as a traditional phone, holding to your ear. People are always going to want that from a phone no matter what handsfree solution they come up with so size is limited there to fit comfortably in a hand while holding to head. Screen size then suffers so it's never really a viable netbook replacement unless there can be some sort of flip screen that doubles the phones size for a screen. These forms haven't taken off in the past.

I think the smartphone designs we see now will stay fairly similar. A lot will be happy with that. The Dell streak and iPads will only cater to a small market of those that want more on the move than a phone.
#13
does this have internet?
can it text/ make calls?
banned#14
so i guess, until some kind of roll up led touchscreen is possible, we are going to go through a few years of almost every form factor and jumble of technical abilities and crossing over, how many separate devices will you be interested in?
banned#15
Personally I'm happy with a smartphone for phone/MP3/toilet web browsing. I like my Laptop for general computer usage, I don't often need to take it on the move anywhere but I would if I needed rather than buying a more portable device for the rare occurrence I'm on a bus/train etc.

Other than that my desktop pcs act as headless servers for everything else in my digital life.
banned#16
bykergrove
something like the streak for me is perfect to use outdoors and to work ect and as a phone,mp3 player and tomtom. only thing i would change is the screen to make it one of those hybrid ebook ones (some company made it so you can press a button on their screens and it turns the backlight off puts everything in greyscale and it is readable in daylight like an ebook)

then at home i'd want a 15inch powerful laptop with multimedia capabilities (to be able to work and be mobile, bluray, hdmi etc) and also have a workstation with two large screens

I have the latter two and am buying the streak tomorrow hopefully! it wont have the ebook feature though! in a few years maybe


forgot about ebooks! but need something book-screen size, (8 inches?)

I personally no longer wear a watch, as my cell phone does that (back to the old pocket watch!)
my tomtom as a standalone is a waste as it spends most of its time off, not sure if id want a phone that size so it can double up (probably no)

15 inch laptop, good size, big enough for serious use, I have a dell mini, and its plus is the lighness.small size, but its cramped for real use,

phone is too small to replace tomtom but is the right size to replace mp3 player (although a market for cheap small mp3 wont go away im sure)

dunno, the mid size between cell phone and laptop is a wide open area fit for some good ideas

perhaps its the ebook size form factor that will define this area!, its big enough for casual web use(toilet surfing!), book reading, playing personal video, so maybe thats the idea (as long as a dual purpose screen can be made and sold)
#17
so it is like an iphone but cheaper
#18
jubbyme;8785337
forgot about ebooks![snip]...


Improvements are happening pretty rapidly in terms of pixel density, which will probably make a huge difference I reckon. Personally, I think something with a very 'widescreen' (1:2 or close to it) 5" display could perhaps fill the mould of the ideal size; small enough to fit in a pocket or be used as a phone, large enough to comfortable browse websites, watch movies, use as sat-nav etc; provided that the display is of excellent quality (personally I still think OLED is a cut-above other displays) and high resolution (960 x 480 or higher).

Developments are happening so rapidly its almost hard to keep pace, but my guess is within 2 years there will be a device that is small enough to fit in pocket and slim (<1cm deep), has long battery life (>10hrs at max load ie talk/movie/gaming), ample storage (64GB flash), USB, wi-fi + 3G, hi-res display, multi-core/thread CPU and most importantly affordable price tag (<£300). I'd say the OSes will almost certainly be Android and iOS {obviously the non-apple products will be the more affordable!}.
#19
i was holding out for this device, until they released the price. i already have an iphone and wanted a good ebooker reader and then some, but this was ipad territory. Then on the weekend i bought an ipad and i'm happy with it so far. Finally saw a streak on monday and glad i bought the ipad in the end, i thought the screen would be bigger.

I used to use a nokia n800 to read ebooks (800 x 480 screen res) which is probably comparable to the streak. The form factor for the streak is nice, and easily portable, but i think the screen might to be too small. the ideal size i think would be seven inches, as the ipad is too big.

Dell lost my custom due to their pricing. if it was cheaper i would have bought it, but not at 429 (offline)
#20
is it like an ihone but cheaper?
does it have an app store
#21
Nice buy byker, these Streaks for sure look nice and I believe Dell plan to bring out a 7" and a 10" with a similar setup just a larger screen.

I think I will be waiting for this:
http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339289613/tegra_2.jpg
banned#22
It's a great piece of kit - unfortunately, for most people, it serves absolutely no purpose.

You have your mobile and you have your home pc/laptop. Then maybe in between you have a netbook, an iPad and maybe something like a kindle.

The Streak is just too big to use as an everyday phone - it's comically big. For me the Incredible/HD2 was about as big as you could get away with using a phone (although I still used an old iPhone as my 'drunk' phone because HD2 + tight jeans = NO).

It's a phone that's too big to be a phone, or it's a tablet too small to be really useful.
[admin]#23
If it wasn't running 1.6 I'd get it in a flash. I tend to use my iphone far more for texting and internet anyway. Calls are a minor purpose.
#24
I'm also tempted... once/if vodafone bill me internet usage (i'm on 'unlimited') i'll be picking one of these up like a shot!
#25
so how does this compare to the iphone?
how is the iphone better than this?
#26
how much is this
#27
399!!!
ain't an ipod touch or some older iphone cheaper?!?!!???
#28
werewolf hands!!! :p
banned#29
numptyj
werewolf hands!!! :p


http://www.nightmarefactory.com/DU978.jpg

:? freaky
#30
loool no h4te Byker just showing some love for the hairier gentleman haha :p
#31
Dell's effectively taken-on what Nokia abandoned in the NIT forms - N800-10. N900 isn't all that.
#32
i don't know much about phones so i expected this to be around 120-200 pounds
#33


thanks for the link byker im'ma get me one of those bad boys! :p
#34
is that actually a good phone (for internet)
#35
bykergrove
which phone? the dell or the pink one?

the dell is fracking AWESOME for the internet. it's essentially a tablet that you can make calls from.

go down to the 02 store to check it out.

the pink phone... i dunno it was a joke


erm excuse me...please dont h4te :p
#36
I'm considering one. I want to hold an iphone 4 first though....
#37
Are you selling it yet?
#38
the porter
My streak comes tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing with it are you still happy with it bg?


How you liking it? Would you recommend it, or advise looking at the market better/waiting for something better to be released?
#39
There's a dell leak out at the moment for 2.1 eclair have you tried it?

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