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banned5y, 8m agoPosted 5 years, 8 months ago
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1 Like #1
1984 - always grips the imagination
1 Like #2
both classics

give
Less than Zero
a try by Bret Easton Ellis
1 Like #3
Catcher in the Rye always reminds me of Family Guy X)

Quagmire to Brian :

Okay, I'll tell ya. You are the worst person I know. You constantly hit on your best friend's wife, the man pays for your food and rescued you from certain death and this is how you repay him? And to add insult to injury, you defecate all over his yard. And you're such a sponge. You pay for notching, you always say "Oh, I'll get you later" but later never comes. And what really bothers me, is you pretend you're this deep guy who loves women for their souls, when all you do is date bimbos. Yeah, I date women for their bodies but at least I'm honest about it. I don't buy them a copy of Catcher in the Rye and then lecture them with some seventh grade interruption of how Holden Caulfield is some profound intellectual. He wasn't! He was a spoiled brat! And that's why you like him so much, he's you! God, you're pretentious! And you delude yourself by thinking you're some great writer even though you're terrible. You know, I should had known You know, I should have known Cheryl Tiegs didn't write me that note. She would have known there's no "a" in the word "definite." And I think what I hate most about you is your textbook liberal agenda, how we should "legalize pot, man," how big business is crushing the underclass, how homelessness is the biggest tragedy in America. Well, what have you done to help? I work down at the soup kitchen, Brian. Never seen you down there! You wanna help? Grab a ladle! And by the way, driving a Prius doesn't make you Jesus Christ! Oh, wait! You don't believe in Jesus Christ or any religion for that matter, because "religion is for idiots!" Well, who the hell are you to talk down to anyone? You failed college twice, which isn't nearly as bad as your failure as a father! How's that son of yours you never see? But you know what? I could forgive all of that, all of it, if you weren't such a bore! That's the worst of it, Brian. You're just a big, sad, alcoholic bore.
1 Like #4
1984 much better then catcher in the rye, I didnt really like CITR, thought it was very overated, mabye it was a classic in its own time?

I dont know if we can comapre both books, to me there are very different, if you like 1984, try "BRAVE NEW WORLD", another book, very good to read


Edited By: black gerbil1 on Mar 23, 2011 23:16
1 Like #5
cool

Atlas shrugged part 1 is out on film this year

Kill your friends by John Nivens is a newer book but a good read also

Edited By: Charlie Scene on Mar 23, 2011 23:18
#6
I never really got into CITR, I dunno to me it was about a kid who was sort of lost didnt really know what to do. wasn't enough "meat", dont know why it even got banned to be honest, perhaps thing were different back then.

Brave new world is a good book, it brings up some very good points about how we live now and what were doing wrong. On the other hand in the current world in that book, they are doing things too which seem wrong, but interesting book to get the juices flowing. i dont think its better then 1984, but other people think it is, worth a read though.

ive been told Clockwork Orange is another good book, but too much nasty stuff going on in there

also check out "the Handmaids tale"

Edited By: black gerbil1 on Mar 23, 2011 23:24
#7
clockwork orange works better as a film imo ,easier to understand the language they use.
2 Likes #8
Charlie Scene
clockwork orange works better as a film imo ,easier to understand the language they use.

you mean your to lazy to read it and you can see actual tittes :p

American phys co kind of falls under the same thing. like that book too.
#9
Have you ever looked at Clockwork Orange (the book) - it's more or less unreadable.

Best classic for me is The Grapes of Wrath


black gerbil1
Charlie Scene
clockwork orange works better as a film imo ,easier to understand the language they use.
you mean your to lazy to read it and you can see actual tittes :p

American phys co kind of falls under the same thing. like that book too.
#10
i have the clockwork orange book and it is very slim but so hard to read imo.

American Psycho is my favourite book of all time, all time!!! much better than the film



Edited By: Charlie Scene on Mar 23, 2011 23:47
#11
1984, A clockwork orange, and trainspotting, last three books i read and loved them.
#12
bykergrove
black gerbil1
Charlie Scene
clockwork orange works better as a film imo ,easier to understand the language they use.

you mean your to lazy to read it and you can see actual tittes :p

American phys co kind of falls under the same thing. like that book too.


I've seen the am psy film but not read the book! Was a good film!


Haven't read it but I've heard the book is much, much more graphic and disturbing. Things that wouldn't pass the censorship test for a film
[mod] 1 Like #13
1984 by a country mile
(you probably know this but it's only called 1984 cos he wrote it in 1948 and couldn't decide on the year so just swapped the 4 and the 8 ).
I'll get my anorack


Edited By: andywedge on Mar 24, 2011 02:34
#14
CITR I would say is an iconic book. It is worth reading, but time has taken it's toll. It comes from a time when the subject matter and form broke many taboos that no longer hold their power. It needs to be read with an understanding of the social context it which it was written.

1984 however like any real classic has themes and story that seem relevant to each new age and can therefore be read by each new generation without losing it's power to provoke a reaction. For my money you should also read Orwell's description of his experiences in the Spanish Civil war "Homage to Catalonia" to get an amazing view of the experiences that shaped his view of the world good and bad.
banned#15
What a bizarre couple of books to compare. They have thoroughly different themes, although 1984 is a more relevant book. I think most people read Catcher when they're a teen so there is a certain kinship that you don't get on later readings. 1984 is a book that you can read over and over without ever losing touch with the issues it covers - in fact you bring the real world parallels into it at the time you're reading it. It's a brilliant book in that sense.

But it's a silly comparison to make because they are so different.
banned#16
andywedge
1984 by a country mile
(you probably know this but it's only called 1984 cos he wrote it in 1948 and couldn't decide on the year so just swapped the 4 and the 8 ).
I'll get my anorack



I would have thought Animal Farm was more your thang?

(I wasnt keen on the film version I once saw though.)

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