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13yr old nephew thrashing about & groaning within 5 minutes of going to sleep at night

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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
No snide comments please, this is a serious thread. As stated in the title, my 13 year old nephew has just started having sleep problems within the last week. Basically, he goes to bed at night and is asleep within minutes and immediately starts making loud groaning noises which are so loud they freak out his younger brother who can hear them in the next room. My sister checked on him and found that he also does several other things, last night he was holding the quilt over his head and when they eventually managed to get it off him he then put a pillow over his head instead.

He sleeps on a top bunk and dangles himself down the steps, tries to grab the sheet off the bed and is basically very violent like and disturbed but when eventually awoken (which takes some doing) he says "oh am I doing it again" and then rolls over, goes back to sleep and doesn't do it again. It's always as soon as he goes to bed and my sister says she's never known anyone go to sleep so quick.

She's tried to find information on the internet about it but can find nothing apart from something that can happen when in REM sleep but he's not in bed long enough to get into this sleep phase so this can't be it.

Has this happened to anyone you know and can you offer any sensible advice? My sister's just a little concerned that he'll a) hurt himself and b) as we're going on holiday in a caravan this weekend and he's got to share a room with his brother she's worried that he'll completely freak out. (the brother that is!)

Hopefully someone out there will have an answer, thanks.
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
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#1
See a doctor.
#2
Its more than likely the onset of puberty with a rush of hormones surging round his body at a great rate doing the things that puberty does, the reason it happens when he first goes to bed is that the body is in a more relaxed state allowing the hormones to flow unrestricted by day to day activities. Nothing major in its own right but a concern if he is in a top bunk as he may throw himself out of it.
#3
Sounds like it could be this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_terror

This is a good resource about them too

http://www.nightterrors.org/
#4
i agreee I'd go to a doctors straight away he may be suffering from an undiagnosed mental problem.

in the meantime she can always try one of these herbal remedies that promote a peacfull nights sleep.
#5
maybe she could put lavender oil on his pillow or get him to drink warm milk to relax him? sounds terrible!
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Its more than likely the onset of puberty with a rush of hormones surging round his body at a great rate doing the things that puberty does, the reason it happens when he first goes to bed is that the body is in a more relaxed state allowing the hormones to flow unrestricted by day to day activities. Nothing major in its own right but a concern if he is in a top bunk as he may throw himself out of it.


Agreed but still worth a chat to the doctor.
#7
Check Confusional arousals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasomnia

These happen before the REM stage and sounds bang on :)
#8
Get professional help. Get to the Doctors.
#9
The onset of puberty brings changes in the parts of the brain that govern the sleep/wake cycle, or circadian rhythm. Our circadian rhythm is our biological clock; it runs on roughly a 24 hour cycle and appears to be reset each day by exposure to sunlight. In teens, the biological clock shifts so that if teens were allowed to create their own sleep and wake cycle, they would naturally go to sleep at about 1am and wake at about 10am. But why does the biological clock shift in adolescence? Researchers aren't sure, but they do know that teens also need more sleep than children or adults.

Teens need between nine and ten hours of sleep each night. The onset of puberty brings greater demands for sleep because hormones, the chemicals which cause all of the biological changes during puberty, are released primarily at night. Most teens don't get the sleep they need and suffer sleep deprivation. Interestingly, many of the correlates of sleep deprivation are similar to those thought to be "typical" of adolescence and puberty: irritability, moodiness, changes in school performance, and changes in motivation. Perhaps the characteristics that we associate with adolescence are really a function of sleep deprivation!
From http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/developmental_psychology/93331

A trip to the GP is recommended if only to put the mothers mind at ease.
#10
Thanks all for your quick replies. I really don't think he's got a mental problem as in all other ways he perfectly fine and dandy and is the same as he's always been. We are hoping that it is just simply tiredness that is bringing it on and the holidays will rectify things or, as has been mentioned, it could be related to puberty which I am sure is just around the corner for him. Will pass the comments on to my sister for peace of mind.
#11
My daughter was like this as a small child but grew out of it, my step son was like it as a teenager but it only lasted a few months..........their father is a bit jumpy at night to say the least, he has calmed down a lot but has the same symptoms but much watered down. I think its nothing but see a doctor, hopefully, like mine it will pass.......we are all different and different things in life affect us differently. Make sure nothing is bothering him.Above all don't make a big fuss of it, just be patient, i'm pretty sure it will go as quickly as it came.
#12
Sorry only quickly scanned replies , so if i repeat spank me :-p
But have you considered he may be getting bully or is stressed about something else at school .
I know when my hubby having a stressful time at work he does exactly as you described he even hit me not hard but enough to wake me. And i have a few times found him sleep walking but always at times of high stress like xmas
#13
Sounds like night terrors to me (there was a programme on tv about it a few months back) - but defo go with the advice already given & see GP.

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