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2.1 home cinema

AvengingLiam Avatar
9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
i am considering setting up a home cinema but dont think i want the bother or the room of true surround sound and was wondering the bestplaces and brands for a 2.1 home cinema, i like this/but would ideally like to spend less.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/31RBPWNT9YL._AA280_.jpg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HT-Q100-Designer-Home-Theatre/dp/B000F4TC2S/ref=sr_1_4/203-5226878-9951907?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188405532&sr=1-4

I started lookin over at av foums but the prices for a proper decnt speaker sub etc were scaring me, i dont want to spend more than 200 really, i like the pioneer deal, http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89060&highlight=pioneer clicky , and i guess i could just use two of the four speakers and sell the others?? to someone wanting 7.1? i don't know i am a complete noob and currently fumbling around this area wih myeyes closed!
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9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
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1 Like #1
Go for the full Delmonte! - at least 5.1
The Pioneer is nice, but that's just the speakers, you'd need an amp too! - Perhaps an all in 1 kit is what you need:
How about this Panasonic:

http://www.richersounds.com/common/productpictures/medium_302966.jpg
£119.95 from Richer Sounds:
http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=PANA-SCHT330-MR

or this Samsung @ £299:

http://www.richersounds.com/common/productpictures/medium_304092.jpg
http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SAMS-HTTX35R
banned#2
jayhab
Go for the full Delmonte! - at least 5.1
The Pioneer is nice, but that's just the speakers, you'd need an amp too! - Perhaps an all in 1 kit is what you need:
How about this Panasonic:

http://www.richersounds.com/common/productpictures/medium_302966.jpg
£119.95 from Richer Sounds:
http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=PANA-SCHT330-MR

or this Samsung @ £299:

http://www.richersounds.com/common/productpictures/medium_304092.jpg
http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SAMS-HTTX35R


Yes, I prefer you go for a 5.1 too!
#3
right ok thanks i guess both those are cheaper and would give a much better sound and cinematic experience? i like that samsung jayhab, i am just concerned that i couldnt put all four in all four corners of my room, as it is my bedrooma nd my bed is in one corner wardrobe etc!!
so i guess something like the samsung but with two smaller ones, i know the size is just aesthetic isn't it? only the top bit is a speaker. or can i put all a 4 at the front? but that wouldnt give surround sound.

The panasonic would probably suit my room better in terms of speaker size but i would like something better looking if i spend that much!! lol but thanks alot for your effort.
#4
http://www.dabs.com/images/Product/UNI2/DigitalContent/4L/4L34_3C88A2E6-6E69-492C-9F56-7AF92164373D_large.jpg
this looks decent, is it?? click!
#5
Yes that looks good - I believe that is just the amp and speakers - it doesn't look like there is a dvd player built in as with the 2 from Richer Sounds.

Not wanting to pry, but is your room small? or could you do a re-arrange with the furniture? - It would be annoying to choose a system based on your current situation, only to be able to have a bigger kit in the near future!

Perhaps the Samsung's speakers don't have to be floorstanding - maybe the rears can be fixed to the wall? - If you're near a Richer Sounds, you could go on a reccy!!
#6
I take it you already have a dvd player, so how about:
http://www.richersounds.com/common/productpictures/medium_303397-1.jpg£129.99
&
http://www.richersounds.com/common/productpictures/medium_303402.jpg£139.95
I know it's a 6.1 speaker system and you'll only need 5.1, but they look nice, and just think - you'll have a spare in case 1 breaks!
http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SONY-STRDE400
http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SONY-SSP88
#7
would i need both of those yes? sorry to sound dumb! i have also found this which seems pretty good.
http://www.comet.co.uk/comet/dyn_imgs/prods/prod_large/402389.jpg
179 from laksys
the sony i put above is 153 from laksys!
thanks again for your input! rep added
#9


They look rather funky.

If I was to get 2.1 for my TV, not with all this cinema box stuff. Just bog standard like PC speakers. What port would I need in the ole TV?
#10
The Sony in post number 5 is only an amp and speakers - so will need your own DVD player.

You would neeed both the 2 items in post number 7 - 1 is an amp, the other is the speakers, again you would need your own dvd player. The added benefit of this option is that it's a fully functioning amp, so you could feed any other stuff you fancyed through it - MP3 player, Cd etc - I think it already had a radio tuner built in.

The item you posted in number 8 looks ok - but you haven't included a link and I can't make out the brand name on it - It looks like there is a dvd drive included, the speakers don't look too bad, but the sub is a bit ugly!!!

The JBLs from amazon look nice, but I bet they wouldn't stand up to any of the others when it comes to sound quality!!

A point worth noting if you do get an all-in-one or replace your DVD player - make sure (if yours doesn't already) that it'll play Divx!! - Very handy to play downloaded s t u f f on!!!!
#11
jamesterror
They look rather funky.

If I was to get 2.1 for my TV, not with all this cinema box stuff. Just bog standard like PC speakers. What port would I need in the ole TV?


Chances are you'd just need standard 'phono-out' sockets on the back of the tv - a right and a left channel - usually one red and one white
#12
jayhab
Chances are you'd just need standard 'phono-out' sockets on the back of the tv - a right and a left channel - usually one red and one white


Cheers, I'll have a gander in a min.

badass - why go for 5.1? Its tempting, just a cheap deal is what I need, don't want nothing top dog.
#13
I've had about 4 different amps and a couple of different speaker set-ups - And i'm about ready to change again!!

Personally I found that the money spent of speakers is usually well worth it, not forgatting some decent cables - the ones that come provided are not always up to the same standard as the equipment that they come with.

A good active subwoofer should provide all the bass you need - the sub I currently have has it's own amp built in so can be increased again in addition to whatever is feeding it (not that it's needed!!!)

My own piece of advice would be to spend 50/50 on an amp and speakers - it's not worth getting high quality of one and not the other. Then there's the old addage of saving 10% of your budget to purchase quality cables!
#14
James - depending on your Tv (assuming it's not mono) you'd probably gain very little from attaching a 2.1 system to your telly. However upgrading to a 5.1 system is a major step forward. Watching action movies etc with bullets and car chases flying around the room really adds an extra dimension to your movies - you really don't get that with 2.1 or stereo from your telly
#15
Right. I'm not being lazy and not looking, but do you have any personal recommendations? Since I'm not a fan on buying speakers since I blew one on my computer speakers with heavy metal, the smell was wonderful.
#16
Totally agree with dcx: on of my favourites is Heat, the heist near the bsgining and then the steet battle later on is fantastic!!!
#17
See, we had 5.1 downstairs, but its not really used anymore, just as 2.1 with the speakers either side of the telly. I have a 5.1 headset, but never really took a liking to it since it was like wearing gold plated ear rings.
#18
It really depends on how much you've got to spend!!! The system I posted on page 1 will do the trick - The Pana is only £129 all in, The Samsung is a lot prettier, but costs more. If you live near a Richer Sounds - it could be worth your while going and habving a chat with them. They certainly used to set up demos for people - but i'm not sure they still do?
If you do not but an all-in-one system, make sure the amp will not blow the speakers - the impedance must match!!
#19
Hmmm. Will be a month or two till I get it then. I'll shop about, see what I can find. If you get any PM's it'll be me pestering you on opinions about 5.1 surround sound systems :)
#20
jamesterror
See, we had 5.1 downstairs, but its not really used anymore, just as 2.1 with the speakers either side of the telly. I have a 5.1 headset, but never really took a liking to it since it was like wearing gold plated ear rings.



arghhhhh - 5.1 headset!!! yuk!

With the correct set-up, you WILL notice a difference. Also speaker placement and correct set-up (volume levels, delay, cross-over etc) is very important.
#21
I used to have 5.1 surround and it was great, Apart from trying to hide the wires going across the floor!
#22
jamesterror
Hmmm. Will be a month or two till I get it then. I'll shop about, see what I can find. If you get any PM's it'll be me pestering you on opinions about 5.1 surround sound systems :)


No problem! - i'll be happy to advise the best I can!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
#23
Iom-RF
I used to have 5.1 surround and it was great, Apart from trying to hide the wires going across the floor!


I'm afraid to look behind our TV - there's quite a lot of cables!!:giggle:
#24
jayhab
I'm afraid to look behind our TV - there's quite a lot of cables!!:giggle:


Snap!, My mum came in and saw the cables everywhere she literally freaked out!, I got the old "In my day we didn't have all these cables, Everything uses bloody cables" oh and then the "I hate those ugly looking speaker boxes, Can't you hide them away or something" :giggle: :giggle:
#25
Don't think my mum will be happy with more cables neither. She moans about dust and crumbs being on the floor. Will be quite good once I got the 360 rigged up to stream HD films on my TV and 5.1 :) Tis all a bit pricey though!
#26
you say the jbls will not stand up too the rest but i beg to differ i think there great. i use a track on the chemical brothers album (surrender) called under the influence (extreme bass) to test speakers/headphones before i buy and they handled them VERY well
#27
Ryancs - The Chemical Brothers sampled the Lucasfilm THX Test Program as found on several dvds - Indiana Jones, Star Wars etc - yes it is a very good test for speakers, however I'd still take a 5.1 set up over a 2.1 any day of the week.

The particular part of the THX program that was sampled sends 'a wave' of base from the rear speakers over your head and down to the floor at the front/TV and ensures that all speakers are set-up properly - in that respect, the JBLs wouldn't stand-up to the others as there are no rears (or centre?)

At the end of the day, it is all down to personal preference - everyone hears sounds there own way, and it also depends on what the speakers will be used for: if it's predominantly music, then a different type of speaker is required, home cinema then requires a different kind again - better suited to a multi-speaker set-up (speakers roughly the same size etc) When the system will be used for both, then it's tricky to strike the right balance!
1 Like #28
jayhab
Ryancs - The Chemical Brothers sampled the Lucasfilm THX Test Program as found on several dvds - Indiana Jones, Star Wars etc - yes it is a very good test for speakers, however I'd still take a 5.1 set up over a 2.1 any day of the week.

The particular part of the THX program that was sampled sends 'a wave' of base from the rear speakers over your head and down to the floor at the front/TV and ensures that all speakers are set-up properly - in that respect, the JBLs wouldn't stand-up to the others as there are no rears (or centre?)

At the end of the day, it is all down to personal preference - everyone hears sounds there own way, and it also depends on what the speakers will be used for: if it's predominantly music, then a different type of speaker is required, home cinema then requires a different kind again - better suited to a multi-speaker set-up (speakers roughly the same size etc) When the system will be used for both, then it's tricky to strike the right balance!

I Totally agree. i was just trying to offer the op a good cheaper alternative:thumbsup:
#29
right thanks very much, i think i am goign to go for a all in one system as i am new to this! i believe that will be simplest, as i can see going for seperates it may cost a little much! would you agree
so i think one of these for looks http://pan.fotovista.com/dev/9/9/00031299/l_00031299.jpg £158 click

sony click

or samsung click
1 Like #30
Sony is the more powerful system, But the Phillips looks nicer and has more features....
#31
yeah i think i will go fro the phillips its 149 at laksys but not in sotock! so ill wait and see, now how do you guys present/store your home cinema tv etc? i am going to need quite a tall stand so i can watch form my bed, i currently watch ddvds with my lcd monitor on a pc stand which seems a good height, its 75cm which is high and cant find any stands that heght!
#32
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but i'd go for the Samsung when it gets back in stock (or source it elsewhere if poss): It's got Divx, USB connection, DTS and looks the nicest!!.
#33
lol ok i will wait plus there is a 10% code
#34
10% off again - bonus!

The Samsung does seem a good all-round system - it should be more than adequate for a first step into Home Cinema!!

EDIT:

Hmm... I'm not sure again now!!! - That Phillips is also very tempting!!!

Definately either the Phillips or the Samsung!!!

perhaps search for some user reviews?

sorry!!!!!!
#35
jayhab
10% off again - bonus!

The Samsung does seem a good all-round system - it should be more than adequate for a first step into Home Cinema!!

EDIT:

Hmm... I'm not sure again now!!! - That Phillips is also very tempting!!!

Definately either the Phillips or the Samsung!!!

perhaps search for some user reviews?

sorry!!!!!!


Or search elseware and look for Quidco & voucher codes? :whistling:

Sony tempts me because of the brand and loudness. Though the Philips one has a good price..
#36
Flippin' heck. Hard to pick out of those three to be honest. A highlight of the Samsung is the ability to play DVD-A discs - I absolutely love DVD-A discs, they sound truly fantastic. There's naturally a limited range of titles but definitely some real belters and surely something to your taste.
A drawback of the Samsung is the strangely low powered centre speaker. Why you would want a centre to be half the power of the F/R I have no idea...


Edit: Okay, new problem. The Philips is apparently very good but *shock horror* it doesn't have any optical inputs! In fact do any of them?
#37
hahaha - and so continues the wonderful saga of choosing new kit!!!
#38
The Phillips has a co-axial digital input but no optical
#39
On a slightly different note - how about soundbars? I tried Yamaha SP900 and it was pretty good but pricey.
Noticed Acoustic Solutions soundbar in Argos but sadly they don't give much details on it. Can't find it on AS website either.
#40
I've never tried one - it's a fab idea if they do what they say they'll do!!

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