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360 - Component v HDMI

Paddy Charlie Avatar
banned8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
I'm currently have a 32" TV which when I hook it up to my 360 gives me 1080i through component, and it is one of the older 360s I got it about 3 years ago so don't know if its HDMI compatable?

But getting new 42" full 1080p TV with HDMI ports. Can I use my current 360 and just get a new cable to play using 1080p?

And if not is it worth getting a new xbox with HDMI or is picture quality both the same?

And help is appreciated
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banned8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#1
Unless your current xbox has the hdmi port, which if it's 3 years old it won't, then you'll have to use the component cables still.
banned#2
Babbabooey
not unless your current xbox has the hdmi port, which if it's 3 years old it won't do.


Didn't think it would. Is it worth getting one with HDMI then for better picture or is it about the same? I don't mind about the sound as I have seperate surround sound system to the TV
#3
It's not worth getting a new one for HDMI, very little difference from what I've seen :) Keep it till it dies
#4
yeah def not worth forking out for a new one just to get the hdmi (unless you also want the bigger hard drive too?), then you could sell your current one i guess, but won't get much for it. If you've had it 3+ years then it'll surely die within a week anyway, lol.
#5
You'll notice a difference if you sit 1.5cm from the screen counting pixels per inch, other than that don't bother.
#6
Mines noticably clearer and crisper through the HDMI to be honest

Could use one of these if you wanted to output through hdmi - http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/265195/joytech-xbox-360-control-center-540/

Don't think it upscales though
banned#7
Will just stick with my old 360 until she dies, which shouldn't be too long since have it so long.

My whole reasoning for getting new TV was for 1080p but seems like it doesn't matter.....oh well

Thanks for the responses
#8
Paddy Charlie
Will just stick with my old 360 until she dies, which shouldn't be too long since have it so long.

My whole reasoning for getting new TV was for 1080p but seems like it doesn't matter.....oh well

Thanks for the responses


I notice a difference but many people wouldnt unless you are used to hd.
banned#9
Originally hooked mine up with HDMI...looked great

was fiddling about 1 day and decided to switch to component so I can hook up Surround through optical rather than buy the adapter

zero difference as far as I can see!
#10
it does make a difference, its all the people running on 1080i that says it doesnt, 1080i is a little better than 720p so going from 1280 x 720 (1366 x 768 at most) all the way to 1920x1080 is a massive difference!

you will get 1080p with the component cable so your bigger better 1080p tele was not a poor purchase, the question on the difference between a component cable running 1080p and a HDMI cable, is very small as the resolution is the same, it's just the crispness.

A HD VGA CABLE will get you upto 1080P too
#11
ODB_69
Originally hooked mine up with HDMI...looked great

was fiddling about 1 day and decided to switch to component so I can hook up Surround through optical rather than buy the adapter

zero difference as far as I can see!


thats a 1080p via HDMI to 1080P via component though isnt it..?

not from a 720p running 1080i to a 1080p tele running full 1080P

1080i is only 1280 x 720 (1366 x 768 at most as that's all the tele can do)

1080P is 1920 x 1080
#12
I have a 40" Sony 1080p TV that i'm running a 360 via component and the picture is still pin sharp.

I don't think it's worth buying a new 360 unless you intend to sit about a foot from the TV. Incidentally the HDMI port on a 360 looks like this:

http://simple-pc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/128348-1-1.jpg

The one on the bottom.
#13
1080i and 1080p are the same resolution, former interlaced latter progressive.
banned#14
Think I might just cancel TV order and wait until January sales to get 1 and an xbox elite. Will just hang onto old 360 and get it modded.

Thanks for all the input
#15
no no need to upgrade the 360, getting the bigger 1080p tv was the thing to do!
#16
abomination
1080i and 1080p are the same resolution, former interlaced latter progressive.


lol, no they are no dude on a tele that can only do 1366x768 it wont magically do 1920x1080..

agreed that 1080i on a fullHD tv that can do 1080P is the same resolution but thats not what the OP is doing,

So to clarify - the OP has a 32" tele that can only do 1366 x 768, but that allows a 1080i or 720p setting, the 1080i is just an interpolation as the tv cant actually do the 1920 x 1080 resolution.

Buying a 42" that can do full HD @ 1920 x 1080 will give the options of 720p 1080i and 1080p where both the 1080 settings are full 1920 x 1080 but one is interlaced and the other progressive.

The big jump from the 32 running interpolated 1080i to the new one running full 1080i will be massive!

but the difference between 1080i and 1080p @ 1920 x 1080 will be very very small
banned#17
I've got a 32" CRT tv, the picture quality is the same as my old xbox very annoying. I've seen HD though so I know it can be better, going to have to buy a HD LCD me thinks.
#18
Go read some more then come back to me :).

If you can prove to me that the definition of 1080i is 1366x768 or lower I'll give you a fiver.
#19
DudeyGeeza
lol, no they are no dude on a tele that can only do 1366x768 it wont magically do 1920x1080..

agreed that 1080i on a fullHD tv that can do 1080P is the same resolution but thats not what the OP is doing


Did you read what he wrote?

Incidentally, component will do 1080p if your tv supports it.
#20
720i & 720p = 1366x768
1080i & 1080p = 1920x1080

most 1366x768 TVs can downscale 1080i
#21
on a tangent, my HDTV is only 720, but SKYHD can output at 1080... should I set it to output at the highest resolution, or match it at 720? Will it make any difference whatever I choose?
#22
jeezus christ, read what i have said, if anyone with a tv that has a maximum resolution of 1366 x 768 is thinking that by setting it @ 1080i they are getting 1920x1080 resolution.. More fool you!
#23
DudeyGeeza
lol, no they are no dude on a tele that can only do 1366x768 it wont magically do 1920x1080..

agreed that 1080i on a fullHD tv that can do 1080P is the same resolution but thats not what the OP is doing,

So to clarify - the OP has a 32" tele that can only do 1366 x 768, but that allows a 1080i or 720p setting, the 1080i is just an interpolation as the tv cant actually do the 1920 x 1080 resolution.

Buying a 42" that can do full HD @ 1920 x 1080 will give the options of 720p 1080i and 1080p where both the 1080 settings are full 1920 x 1080 but one is interlaced and the other progressive.

The big jump from the 32 running interpolated 1080i to the new one running full 1080i will be massive!

but the difference between 1080i and 1080p @ 1920 x 1080 will be very very small


What dudey says but this might help you - though the image quality depends on where you sit - im about 1.5m away from my screen and 1080i doesnt look great - 480p looks terrible - but sitting 4 or so metres away the quality improves and you gain the full benefit
http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

Also isnt the 360 having an update for 1440p or something with the NXE?
2560x1440
#24
I wouldn't know what the difference between 1080p and 720p is since I don't own a FullHD TV (yet).

Nor do I know what HDMI vs. Component is like since I have a launch 360.

:cry:

Stop editing Dudey :lol:!
#25
DudeyGeeza
1080i is only 1280 x 720 (1366 x 768 at most as that's all the tele can do)


May want to rephrase it in that case :?
#26
DudeyGeeza
jeezus christ, read what i have said, if anyone with a tv that has a maximum resolution of 1366 x 768 is thinking that by setting it @ 1080i they are getting 1920x1080 resolution.. More fool you!


Robotochan
May want to rephrase it in that case :?


why?
#27
dandoc2
What dudey says but this might help you - though the image quality depends on where you sit - im about 1.5m away from my screen and 1080i doesnt look great - 480p looks terrible - but sitting 4 or so metres away the quality improves and you gain the full benefit
http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

Also isnt the 360 having an update for 1440p or something with the NXE?
2560x1440


No m8, they'll never support more than 1080p, they will save that for the next xbox.

but they were supposed to be adding support for 16 :10 monitors for every resolution below 1920x1080, dont know if they will though.. It wont even include the 1920x1200 of 24 inchers as thats more than 1080p..
#28
DudeyGeeza
No m8, they'll never support more than 1080p, they will save that for the next xbox.

but they were supposed to be adding support for 16 :10 monitors for every resolution below 1920x1080, dont know if they will though.. It wont even include the 1920x1200 of 24 inchers as thats more than 1080p..


No no they definitely are i saw it on some facts with the NXE
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26509650
#29
dandoc2
No no they definitely are i saw it on some facts with the NXE
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26509650


the link just confirms what i have said if anything dude, 1680 x 1050 will be nice for those with a 22" pc monitor, there is no reason for them to include the higher ones than 1080 m8 as they can make more money by bringing out a xbox elite 2 or similar..
#30
You are all forgetting the fact that most Xbox games output at a max of 720p anyway (remember halo 3 res of 560p was it?) so it doesn't make the blindest bit of differance what your screen resolution is as it will have to scale anyway! Its only the dashboard and the related video etc that will output at higher resolution, and bear in mind 1080i is actually worse than 720p as it scans each screen twice at 560 and laces them together..
banned#31
Beefnoodlez
You are all forgetting the fact that most Xbox games output at a max of 720p anyway (remember halo 3 res of 560p was it?) so it doesn't make the blindest bit of differance what your screen resolution is as it will have to scale anyway! Its only the dashboard and the related video etc that will output at higher resolution, and bear in mind 1080i is actually worse than 720p as it scans each screen twice at 560 and laces them together..


Yeah but have got a HD DVD player so 1080p would've shown for that. But thanks for info will change from 1080i ti 720p
#32
My 360 outputs at 1080p on my sony bravia - via component as my 360 is a 2005/06 model.

Ppl say there's very little difference if any, and mine looks just stunning via component, just as good as a ps3 game/Blu-ray running at 1080p thru hdmi - on the same tv

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