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50+ people have been shot dead in the Gay Nightclub, Pulse, in Orlando, FL. A man of Afghan decent opened fire as the club neared the end of the night. When will the madness end? 1) Acts of r… Read More
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1y, 1m agoPosted 1 year, 1 month ago
50+ people have been shot dead in the Gay Nightclub, Pulse, in Orlando, FL.

A man of Afghan decent opened fire as the club neared the end of the night.

When will the madness end?
1) Acts of religious extremism
2) America's Gun Laws

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1y, 1m agoPosted 1 year, 1 month ago
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I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.
Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.
"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."
"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."
It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.


Hmm. He was Muslim, had links to a suicide bomber, declared allegiance to ISIS, ISIS execute gays, hated homosexuals, father supporter of Afghan Taliban, speaker at Orlando mosque tells congregation 'Gays Must Die' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ and yet again people claim it had nothing to do with Islam it's gun laws wot did it.

Edited By: Fred Smith on Jun 12, 2016 21:12
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America desperately needs to change their gun laws.
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Error440
Fred Smith
reddit
I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.
Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.
"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."
"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."
It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.
Hmm. He was Muslim, had links to a suicide bomber, declared allegiance to ISIS, ISIS execute gays, hated homosexuals, father supporter of Afghan Taliban, speaker at Orlando mosque tells congregation 'Gays Must Die' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ and yet again people claim it had nothing to do with Islam it's gun laws wot did it.
Does it actually matter when in this case the korans view of gays is no more or less toxic then the views of half that country anyway.

You think half of the US population believe homosexuals should be killed? Have you any evidence to support that claim?

The imam speaking in Orlando said killing gays is an act of compassion and you say it doesn't matter. Tell me how many priests, bishops, cardinals, swami', rabbis, high priests, lamas, gurus or any other spiritual teachers in the US have said that?

Edited By: Fred Smith on Jun 12, 2016 23:24: ?
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To all those ITT implying this is getting more media attention as he was Muslim... bore off.

There is no agenda here.
The fact that this is the worst mass shooting in modern US History is why this is getting attention. Look at Anders Breivik. The guy killed a similar large number and that was all over the news. He was Christian.

So all those hinting at some sort of agenda give it a rest. The focus should be solely on why he did it - why were his views like this? Why didn't his relatives try and change this? And why was he able to get hold of weapons.
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sofiasar
miikeyblue
sofiasar
J4GG4
sofiasar
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source, ITV news
police in Orlando have arrested a white male with many guns, ammunition and chemical liquid enough to make explosives !
he was on his way to gay pride
Everything you post on here is just vile.
Instead of condemning the atrocity with 50 Innocent victims murdered by someone, you're trying to deflect the story to a completely unrelated story to this story, purely because the other guy was white. And frankly this is not the first time your first input in a thread resorts to Indirect racism.
your gob sounds vile!!
I was updating a news story on here which I found out! everyone posts updates when they find out something new on news!
why don't you want other ops on here to find out about this??
why are you trying to cover his backs!!
goodness me!
this man had mass weapons, that means a mass casualty could have taken place!!
you should be thankful not unthankful
The fact is, your complaint was that the story where 50 people died was being covered on the BBC and not the one about the guy that got arrested without anybody being killed, where he was questioned, and then released as there was believed to be no link to terrorism. We don't know what he was going to do with those weapons, we can only speculate - however the authorities deemed that chap not to be a threat.
In the story that is being discussed here, his intentions were clear - and yes, unfortunately, he is a Muslim. That is a fact - but I've not read one comment here from anyone suggesting that all Muslims are responsible for this one man's actions.
Obviously, the Orlando story is going to get a lot more publicity - and the fact that the other was actually discovered to be a complete non-story may have swayed the BBC not to cover it at all.
If you wish to discuss it with the other "ops" - although I think the word you're after is members (OP = original post / original poster), I'm sure they'd willingly do so in a thread dedicated to it - as it is though, it appears to be completely unrelated, and irrelevant here, other than an apparent means of deflection.
this was a reply to j4 op.
he accuracy me of a vile human being.
for what?? when these kind of atrocities happen , their is always posts like this for news about it, I.e. to warn other ops.
then these threads turn too violent because a few choose to pick and name the religion in bad ways.
the BBC part, well a few other ops mentioned it wasn't on news, so I pointed out it wasn't on bbc ? so what, can't I say that.
the white man getting arrested part, well he was equipped to kill gays and lesbians just like the man did yesterday.
I found it as a on going violence, and wanted to inform other ops just like they contribute to threads.
so are you trying to say who ever gives a update about the acts such as related news, I.e. trump just gave a news statement , they shouldn't mention it ??
it's all topic related !

Give it a rest sofi, 50 people are dead and a lot more in critical condition. I think people are sick to death of lunatics carrying out these kind of attacks in the name of religion only for others to disregard it. No one is blaming anyone other than the person responsible. I think there's enough hate going around atm without adding pettiness to the mix. If you don't agree with some posters then fine, but please show some respect to the victims and their families.

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Waiting for the link :3
1 Like #3
You've got it all wrong. Apparently this was a "homophobic" terrorist incident and has nothing to do with the shooters religion. . At all.. oO

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/742000940635557888


Edited By: stuarthanley on Jun 12, 2016 16:19
1 Like #4
RIP to the victims. Perpetrator named as omar mateen.
#5
According to a friend near there, at least 20 dead. :( I do think killing murderer was a bad idea tho, they should of punished him first! Then killed him.
#6
Rid1
According to a friend near there, at least 20 dead. :( I do think killing murderer was a bad idea tho, they should of punished him first! Then killed him.

It was a shoot out. He had multiple weapons on him.
11 Likes #7
America desperately needs to change their gun laws.
#8
Rid1
According to a friend near there, at least 20 dead. :( I do think killing murderer was a bad idea tho, they should of punished him first! Then killed him.
He had hostages.
1 Like #9
Corresponding BBC links confirm the gunman had links to Islamic Extremism.

How is a man like this able to get hold of any sort of weapon? Screw the third amendment of the US Constitution.
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landros1
America desperately needs to change their gun laws.
Yes because nobody every gets killed in any other country by gun toting isla..er.. Homophobic terrorists
1 Like #11
Stuarthanley this is even more disturbing as it is a combination of extremism and terrible gun laws.
#12
Rid1
According to a friend near there, at least 20 dead. :( I do think killing murderer was a bad idea tho, they should of punished him first! Then killed him.
The number reported is about 50 now. 50 dead and scores more injured.
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dtovey89

When will the madness end?

When there's no gay people on the planet. But then the religious nutters will use another excuse to kill.

So the only option is when religion is removed from the planet. Which will not happen.

Think you know the answer now...
1 Like #14
When will this all end :(

May they all r.i.p

Hope their is an hell just so he can suffer for eternity.
1 Like #15
J4GG4
dtovey89

When will the madness end?
When there's no gay people on the planet. But then the religious nutters will use another excuse to kill.
So the only option is when religion is removed from the planet. Which will not happen.
Think you know the answer now...

How about we leave all the nutters on earth, and every religion take a separate planet. It won't solve anything of course, but the subsequent interplanetary wars will be spectacular.
1 Like #16
splatsplatsplat
How about we leave all the nutters on earth, and every religion take a separate planet. It won't solve anything of course, but the subsequent interplanetary wars will be spectacular.

"Nutters"? Was that the name of the nightclub?

The trouble with dividing the Earth by religion is that one particular set of people believe their religion is 'right' & no other viewpoint can co-exist.

Just move them to another planet & the majority of us can then live together peacefully... until the next time.
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shauneco
When will this all end :(

May they all r.i.p

Hope their is an hell just so he can suffer for eternity.

They should just use a web search engine with the criteria...

"Ted Nugent just" "Terrorist in the world by pointing out one huge fact"
2 Likes #18
the religion of peas strikes again
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dtovey89
Stuarthanley this is even more disturbing as it is a combination of extremism and terrible gun laws.
And if you take away the guns then there are always bombs.
No point blaming an inanimate object for the actions of peaceful religious people.
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dtovey89
Stuarthanley this is even more disturbing as it is a combination of extremism and terrible gun laws.
stuarthanley
And if you take away the guns then there are always bombs.

No point blaming an inanimate object for the actions of peaceful religious people.

An inanimate object like "The Bible" or "The Quran"?
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fanpages
dtovey89
Stuarthanley this is even more disturbing as it is a combination of extremism and terrible gun laws.
stuarthanley
And if you take away the guns then there are always bombs.
No point blaming an inanimate object for the actions of peaceful religious people.
An inanimate object like "The Bible" or "The Quran"?
Exactly. Both just works of fiction taken far too literally by the easily led. I'm not sure which one states that homosexuality is punishable by death though.
1 Like #22
I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.

Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.

"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."

"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."

It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.
#23
reddit
I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.
Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.
"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."
"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."
It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.


From what I've read it was because the shooter despised gay people and saw 2 kissing while in florida, but he has also been named on the fbi watch list with links to isis who coincidentally also don't tolerate gay people.

Such a tragedy, how does 1 guy kill 50. Like how is it possible
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hate crime i think, 2 men kissing on a beach in front of his wife & son tipped him over the edge
#25
landros1
America desperately needs to change their gun laws.

A Terror Attack is completely different!!!
Remember Paris in November?
I think they have much much stricter gun control laws than the USA?
#26
reddit
I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.
Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.
"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."
"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."
It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.
NBC news says differently. Not being American, I don't know how trustworthy they are. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/amp/terror-hate-what-motivated-orlando-nightclub-shooter-n590496#
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stuarthanley
dtovey89
Stuarthanley this is even more disturbing as it is a combination of extremism and terrible gun laws.
And if you take away the guns then there are always bombs.
No point blaming an inanimate object for the actions of peaceful religious people.

Very true.

As I keep saying,
A Terror Attack is completely different!!!
Remember Paris in November?
I think they have much much stricter gun control laws than the USA?
This could happen in the UK.
#28
maxrlingham
landros1
America desperately needs to change their gun laws.
A Terror Attack is completely different!!!
Remember Paris in November?
I think they have much much stricter gun control laws than the USA?
Gun control obviously worked in the Bataclan where only 00.2% of the people were armed. oO
1 Like #29
He made a decision to kill people. That might be because he is homophobic, terrorist, devout Religion or a combination of all the above.

The difference is that in USA you can purchase guns on the high street. So whatever you are angry about....

Go ahead and shoot those who upset you ??

Edited By: iglimpse on Jun 12, 2016 18:42
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R.I.P

It's not about the Gun laws as a Terrorist will always find a way!!
Very sadly many, many other countries have these mass shootings.

That aside i'm sure lessons need to be learned.

This Evil man is NOT in Paradise now!!
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stuarthanley
maxrlingham
landros1
America desperately needs to change their gun laws.
A Terror Attack is completely different!!!
Remember Paris in November?
I think they have much much stricter gun control laws than the USA?
Gun control obviously worked in the Bataclan where only 00.2% of the people were armed. oO

Correct.
1 Like #32
dtovey89
Screw the third amendment of the US Constitution.
Yeah, if they were allowed to quarter soldiers in private homes without the owner's consent then this would never have happened!
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benjammin316
the religion of peas strikes again

Please refrain from bringing peas into this, I like peas.
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reddit
I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.
Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.
"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."
"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."
It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.

The BBC are reporting that he dialled 911 before the incident and pledged allegiance to the ISIS leader.

There is a problem in the USA with guns.
There is a problem in the world with Islamic Extremism.

Yesterday there was another shooting in Florida. A white male killed singer Christina Grimmie.

So yeah gun crime isn't exclusive to Muslims in America. However, that doesn't detract from the fact that this guy killed these people due to the fact he was an Islamic Extremist.


Edited By: dtovey89 on Jun 12, 2016 21:30: .
#35
dtovey89
Corresponding BBC links confirm the gunman had links to Islamic Extremism.
How is a man like this able to get hold of any sort of weapon? Screw the third amendment of the US Constitution.

Screw the THIRD AMENDMENT?

So you dont want there to be restrictions on the quartering of soldiers in private homes without the owner's consent, forbidding the practice in peacetime?

Okay...
#36
Another horrible mass shooting.
Thoughts are with all those affected.
1 Like #37
Good job they have relaxed gun laws in America so everyone can be armed and defend themselves.....oh wait :|
#38
souljacker
Good job they have relaxed gun laws in America so everyone can be armed and defend themselves.....oh wait :|

It is illegal to have a gun in an establishment that serves alcohol in Florida. So, yeah because of the law no one would legally be allowed to defend themself with a firearm in this scenario.
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reddit
I find it interesting that there is an assumption that this is terrorism, quite likely because the gunman had a foreign sounding name,whereas all of the other home grown shootings that we read about over never have terrorism associated with them.
Illustrated perfectly by two conflicting statements.
"It is the worst mass shooting in recent US history. Florida governor Rick Scott said it was "clearly an act of terror"."
"Officials said the killings were likely to be ideologically motivated, though there was no information that the gunman was associated with a particular group."
It will however give the US a great excuse to deflect the discussion away from gun laws and straight to terrorism.


Hmm. He was Muslim, had links to a suicide bomber, declared allegiance to ISIS, ISIS execute gays, hated homosexuals, father supporter of Afghan Taliban, speaker at Orlando mosque tells congregation 'Gays Must Die' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ and yet again people claim it had nothing to do with Islam it's gun laws wot did it.

Edited By: Fred Smith on Jun 12, 2016 21:12
#40
katchiib
souljacker
Good job they have relaxed gun laws in America so everyone can be armed and defend themselves.....oh wait :|
It is illegal to have a gun in an establishment that serves alcohol in Florida. So, yeah because of the law no one would legally be allowed to defend themself with a firearm in this scenario.
Exactly, sort of my point, the pro gun brigade always argue how people have the right to have guns to defend themselves yet in most instances where these mass shootings take place guns aren't allowed

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